bobwg
Expert Expediter
OH and were suppose to belive this is all true ???
Obama administration determined to stop Petraeus testimony on Benghazi attack.
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OH and were suppose to belive this is all true ???
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Well, considering it was written by an Israeli Jew ... in fact the very guy, Gershon Baskin, who played a critical role in brokering and securing the release of the IDF solider Gilad_Shalit - who Hamas had held for over 5 years - I would say that it might at least merit at least a little consideration.
You can read more about Mr. Baskin's efforts in the above effort below:
The Israeli academic who played a critical role in the Shalit deal
Or you can just continue to listen to O'Really and Shammity and the remainder of the Focks Nooz clown parade ... and persist in believing they are giving you "the truth" ...
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RLENT
Veteran Expediter
There many within the intelligence community, or who were in the community at the time, that have spoken out about what happened with the gaming of the intel in regards to Iraq ...
To construct the sentences in the quote above in the manner that they were constructed, speaks of a level of fundamental ignorance on the matter - one that would require quite a bit of time and a good deal of effort to rectify.
An endeavor whose ultimate success could be considered dubious at best - if the individual whose ignorance is in question, is unwilling to consider some actual facts ... rather than the mythology they have adopted, in support of a misguided worldview that they are desperately clinging to ...
If you so choose, you can act and expend a little effort to educate yourself ... if you do choose to do so, Google might be your friend.
If not, well hey - by all means: feel free to remain in the condition that you currently are.
You tell me - since you raise it as an issue.
If he isn't, what is it specifically that makes that so ?
What have you to offer to support your premise ?
Anything ... anything Bueller ?
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Whitehouse denies editing CIA talking points regarding reference to Al Qaeda. Whitehouse: It wasn't us and we don't know who did. That's the truth as far as YOU know.
White House denies allegations of scrubbing terror threat from CIA Libya account | Fox News
White House denies allegations of scrubbing terror threat from CIA Libya account | Fox News
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Interesting comment on Roger Ailes (head of Focks Nooz) I found:
Richard Nixon and Roger Ailes 1970s plan to put the GOP on TV
Richard Nixon and Roger Ailes 1970s plan to put the GOP on TV
Kind of left out the fact that also there was a WOMAN senator named Kelly Ayotte. I guess regardless of the apparent optics, of having two white male senators along with a female senator demanding answers of their government, it will probably deteriote wrongly into some type of sexist, racist witch hunt on Susan Rice. Note to Barry supporters and PC lib crowd.: Witch wasn't necessarily describing Rice because she happens to be a female.Ok? ok.
Bad news: Turns out it’s sexist and racist to criticize Susan Rice for giving bad information to the public « Hot Air
Yep, you got that right. The description of Rice as well-thought of,woman might not be totally accurate as well. Even Washington Post writer Dana Milbank, no right winger is he, says she has had a few issues such as flipping the middle finger to a colleague,shouting matches and arguments as well.
WSJ: Hillary’s on the hot seat, not Rice « Hot Air
WSJ: Hillary’s on the hot seat, not Rice « Hot Air
Humble2drive
Expert Expediter
In the bigger picture. All of this negative attention on Rice will simply make it easier to get Senator John Kerry Confirmed for the Secretary of State position. Obama still wins.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
While leaving aside the fact that the above appears to an incomplete thought, if you are referring to some particular appearance of McCain or Graham (and Ayotte ?) in the press, or on TV, I really didn't leave anything out ... since my comments were simply based on my own observations of who has been at the forefront, and primary beneficiaries, of the preponderance of the press coverage of the matter ...
Clearly, it's the Mutt and Jeff duo ... and that fact will feed into the general of perception of it ...
But I am glad you raised the matter of Ayotte's involvement though ... since, given her record, it simply serves to reinforce that those who are out front on the issue are crass political opportunists ...
Thanks for the extra ammo ...
Well, as pointed out above, who gets the mic and the face time will determine the general perception of it ... as long as it's primarily McCain and the South Carolina Toe Tapper, it will be what it will be ...
What I'm wondering is how long it will take the rank and file GOP in Congress to figure out that having these two 'tards out in front on the matter is a loser from a PR perspective ...
Given that it's the Party of Stupid I really don't expect much, but one can always hope for miracles ...
RLENT
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May well be true (that it would make it easier) ... my own guess though is that he ends up going with Rice ...
I suspect that Obama is more than just a little ticked off ... and the opportunity to have the clown brigade ranting and raving in opposition to the appointment, will make for good political positioning, particularly given McCain's recently demonstrated competence at foot-nuking himself ...
I say: Bring it ...
While leaving aside the fact that the above appears to an incomplete thought, if you are referring to some particular appearance of McCain or Graham (and Ayotte ?) in the press, or on TV, I really didn't leave anything out ... since my comments were simply based on my own observations of who has been at the forefront, and primary beneficiaries, of the preponderance of the press coverage of the matter ...
Clearly, it's the Mutt and Jeff duo ... and that fact will feed into the general of perception of it ...
But I am glad you raised the matter of Ayotte's involvement though ... since, given her record, it simply serves to reinforce that those who are out front on the issue are crass political opportunists ...
Thanks for the extra ammo ...
Well, as pointed out above, who gets the mic and the face time will determine the general perception of it ... as long as it's primarily McCain and the South Carolina Toe Tapper, it will be what it will be ...
What I'm wondering is how long it will take the rank and file GOP in Congress to figure out that having these two 'tards out in front on the matter is a loser from a PR perspective ...
Given that it's the Party of Stupid I really don't expect much, but one can always hope for miracles ...
If you were watching Fox News you would have seen her speak. You were probably watching something like MSNBC ,where the memo from the higher ups was probably: Show the two GOP males but don't show the GOP women. The audience over there is so easily fooled. It would account for your erroneus observations.
Yep, because it is more important to have "political positioning" than to nominate someone who is best qualified and competant for the job. Right? Right.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Well, mutt I actually watch Fox, MSNBC, CNN, Current ... and a few others.
And I have seen her speak - never said I hadn't - try reading what I wrote again ... you know where I talked about the preponderance of coverage that I observed.
Uh-huh ...
Well, I dunno about internal memos from MSNBC ... haven't seen any of them as regards instructions from management to slant their coverage any particular way - I doubt that it would be required considering who the hosts are - clearly they lean left.
But we certainly do know about the memo's from Focks Nooz ... it's been documented and a variety of whistleblowers (ex Focks Nooz folks) that have sung like canaries.
On the matter of MSNBC's coverage ... well, there is this:
Andrea Mitchell Reports: Kelly Ayotte on Susan Rice & Benghazi
Coming from you that's a real hoot ...
At some point you'll probably get tired of being slapped around ... and decide to stop sticking your schlong in the meat grinder ...
Me ?
I'm a pretty patient fellow ... and I have plenty of time ...
By the way, has anyone seen dear old Bub-bah-lah around lately ... how's he doing these days ?
Where did that little scamp get off to anyways ?
My observations are entirely accurate - based on what I watched. And I suspect that observation would hold true, in terms of the entirety of coverage in the media.
Are you now asserting that McCain and Graham have not received the majority of the press coverage as GOP mouthpieces thus far ?
That Ayotte has received more ?
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RLENT
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Nope - that's a strawman of your own construction - I never said any such thing.
But hey ... if logical fallacy is the best ya got, then I say:
"Governor ... please proceed ..."
FWIW, it's my opinion that the GOP is so inclined towards politicization and obstructionism that they need slapped down ... hard ... and if the results of the election weren't enough to get them to rethink their ongoing stupidity, then by all means: please bring on further political humiliation.
And I'll sit back and partake in a little Schadenfreude as it occurs ... with the hope that wiser minds will eventually prevail ...
Thanks for making my point. The fact that most of the lame stream media,other than Fox News would give a preponderance of the coverage and minimize Kelly Ayotte is what I'm referring to. The media list given in your first sentence is a clear indication that you are misinformed by one of your following statements " My observations are accurate based on what I watched." Again, given that erroneus information, one would give an innaccurate statement on here as to what took place at the News conference. The fact that the FEMALE Sen. Kelly Ayotte was there and also gave a statement about her concerns was lost on you as you gave your opinion about the "optics" of ONLY the two white male GOP senators criticisng the well thought of, black female.
Can't let an inconvenent fact like Kelly Ayotte being there get into your false narrative.
Seriously, did the Barry supporters sign up for four more years of this racial and sexist politicking? Telling idnit?
Oooh...lookie here. The President did the same thing. He conveniently ommitted Kelly Ayotte from his remarks. "John McCain,Lindsey Graham, and others......" Sneaky,sneaky.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/11/15/Media-President-Obama-Leave-Out-Senator-Ayotte
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Based on the current SECSTATE, competence and qualifications don't seem to be high on the list for this particular cabinet position. Of course Obama didn't score too well in those two areas either.
As is usually the case with Obama, it's all about appearances instead of substance. The GOP needs to get better at their production of these media events. This news conference should have put Sen Ayotte in front of the cameras with McCain and Graham on either side in support roles. She is very capable and could easily have taken the lead in making the necessary points about Rice's participation in the internet video sham. But Rice is just a pawn in the larger cover-up effort.
Considering the loss of life in Benghazi, the primary focus of any investigation by the Senate or House should be to determine:
(1) who failed to provide the necessary levels of security for our people in Libya?
(2) who failed to give the orders that would have allowed our forces to fight off and possibly rescue our people from their terrorist attackers?
This responsibility falls on the White House and State Dept; one is in the "direct denial" mode, and the other is MIA - Hillary conveniently on the other side of the planet right now.