Didn't the British disarm the colonists? You found a way...
North Korea Launches Missle as Promised
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Didn't the British disarm the colonists? You found a way...
They TRIED to dis-arm us, it did not work. There were A LOT of "layoutshooters" back then!! Real men with guts and determination. That, by the way, is why we have a 2nd Amendment. To prevent that from happening.
Now it is time to leave for a day of family, venison tenderloins and wine. That, as much fun argueing with you guys is, is FAR more fun. Layoutshooter
Now it is time to leave for a day of family, venison tenderloins and wine. That, as much fun argueing with you guys is, is FAR more fun. Layoutshooter
While it is possible that the situation could have been finished in the 50s, it wasn't, due to the fact China got involved. The protracted war that would have ensued if the ceasefire had not happened would have been long and bloody easily in the area of casualties of ww2. Now I know the US could have nuked them... really?? Look at the terrain and if the US had attacked China with nukes would the Russians have stayed out of it?
None of the participating nations wanted a war for any length of time. So developed our current situation of a split nation and the problems.
No the US does not have the right to dictate or otherwise to a sovereign nation! Hence the problem of the actions taken with Iraq and the protracted involvement. The lack of WMD was a great find but at what cost. The cost of lives is first and foremost, the cost in international influence comes in much further down the list, but is there and has not been good for US relations around the world.
Yes they can impose embargoes etc but they are easily circumvented by the Chinese and Russians who of course are demanding their own concessions from N Korea.
There is no easy answer to this as every idea has its good and bad points.
It was mentioned the N Koreans do not have the power to make changes on their own. I believe that is wrong for the simple fact that S Korea has made some great inroads in recent years. Co operative industrial complexes with both N and S Korean workers. A resort for split families to meet. Both of these have negative effects on the propaganda machine in the north due to the word of mouth which finds an amazing way to get past censorship.
Rob
None of the participating nations wanted a war for any length of time. So developed our current situation of a split nation and the problems.
No the US does not have the right to dictate or otherwise to a sovereign nation! Hence the problem of the actions taken with Iraq and the protracted involvement. The lack of WMD was a great find but at what cost. The cost of lives is first and foremost, the cost in international influence comes in much further down the list, but is there and has not been good for US relations around the world.
Yes they can impose embargoes etc but they are easily circumvented by the Chinese and Russians who of course are demanding their own concessions from N Korea.
There is no easy answer to this as every idea has its good and bad points.
It was mentioned the N Koreans do not have the power to make changes on their own. I believe that is wrong for the simple fact that S Korea has made some great inroads in recent years. Co operative industrial complexes with both N and S Korean workers. A resort for split families to meet. Both of these have negative effects on the propaganda machine in the north due to the word of mouth which finds an amazing way to get past censorship.
Rob
greg334
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There are a lot of reasons we ignore Africa, one is Mandela and SA. We allowed him to become a hero and he set fourth some policies of non-external intervention that prevents a lot of things from happening. The entire African Union needs to do something about the problem, not the US. The AU has had UN backing and both of them could make a difference but as George Clooney found out the hard way, the UN doesn't want to end the bloodshed there.
As for North Korea, in comparison to say Iran, the NK people have a lot less freedoms and a lot less chances to change their government than the Iranians. The Iranians have loosened up a bit because of the Iraq/Iran war but NK hasn't been at war with anyone else for 20 years when Iran changed governments.
China warned Kim and so did Russia, neither of them need a war on their borders at this moment. The world would surely crash and burn and then both of them would lose millions in hard assets. The UN won't do a thing and again we need not to return to the Albright appeasement plan but to the Bush multilateral plan. It worked and worked well.
But again we have the Messiah, the annoted one who will solve all of our problems and hand them to our great grandchildren - wasn't it the mantra of the hippy generation "live for today, don't worry about tomorrow"?