No Americans Will do These Jobs!?!?

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Well I guess there are NO AMERICANS that are trainable for these positions...I tink i heard that we were bring jobs BACK to the states....But this has to be bushs fault, I mean he is the one that let companies "outscource all those jobs....but now the US Taxpayers are paying to train the people that jobs are being outscourced to...

Hows that "Hope and Change" working for you.....:rolleyes:

U.S. To Train 3,000 Offshore IT Workers

$22 million, federally-backed program aims to help outsourcers in South Asia become more fluent in areas like Java programming—and the English language.

By Paul McDougall
InformationWeek
August 3, 2010 01:59 PM
U.S. To Train 3,000 Offshore IT Workers -- InformationWeek

Despite President Obama's pledge to retain more hi-tech jobs in the U.S., a federal agency run by a hand-picked Obama appointee has launched a $22 million program to train workers, including 3,000 specialists in IT and related functions, in South Asia.

Following their training, the tech workers will be placed with outsourcing vendors in the region that provide offshore IT and business services to American companies looking to take advantage of the Asian subcontinent's low labor costs.

Under director Rajiv Shah, the United States Agency for International Development will partner with private outsourcers in Sri Lanka to teach workers there advanced IT skills like Enterprise Java (Java EE) programming, as well as skills in business process outsourcing and call center support. USAID will also help the trainees brush up on their English language proficiency.

"To help fill workforce gaps in BPO and IT, USAID is teaming up with leading BPO and IT/English language training companies to establish professional IT and English skills development training centers," the U.S. Embassy in Colombo, Sri Lanka, said in a statement posted Friday on its Web site.

"Courses in Business Process Outsourcing, Enterprise Java, and English Language Skills will be offered at no charge to over 3,000 under- and unemployed students who will then participate in on-the-job training schemes with private firms," the embassy said.

USAID is also partnering with Sri Lankan companies in other industries, including construction and garment manufacturing, to help create 10,000 new jobs in the country, which is still recovering from a 30-year civil war that ended in 2009.

But it's the outsourcing program that's sure to draw the most fire from critics. While Obama acknowledged that occupations such as garment making don't add much value to the U.S. economy, he argued relentlessly during his presidential run that lawmakers needed to do more to keep hi-tech jobs in IT, biological sciences, and green energy in the country.

He also accused the Bush administration of creating tax loopholes that made it easier for U.S. companies to place work offshore in low-cost countries.

As recently as Monday, Obama, speaking at a Democratic fundraiser in Atlanta, boasted about his efforts to reduce offshoring. The President said he's implemented "a plan that’s focused on making our middle class more secure and our country more competitive in the long run -- so that the jobs and industries of the future aren’t all going to China and India, but are being created right here in the United States of America."

Obama in January tapped Shah to head USAID. At the time of his appointment, Shah—whose experience in the development community included senior positions at the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—said the organization needed to focus more on helping developing nations build technology-based economies. "We need to develop new capabilities to pursue innovation, science, and technology," said Shaw, during his swearing in ceremony.

Sri Lanka's outsourcing industry is nascent, but growing as it begins to scoop up work from neighboring India.

In addition to homegrown firms, it's attracting investment from Indian outsourcers looking to expand beyond increasingly expensive tech hubs like Bangalore, Hyderabad, and Mumbai. In 2007, consultants at A.T. Kearney listed the country as 29th on their list of the top 50 global outsourcing destinations.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Chef,

You didn't know about this?

I had to train my replacement in 2003. He was living in Canada as a legal resident, working in the US but a citizen of another country. Nice guy, I didn't feel it was his fault but it is a big scam within a few border states. My sister has to deal with the same thing, first in the lab she worked at and now at the hospital. They hire Canadians because of health care and they can pay them a bit less. Nothing against the Canadians, I would do it too if I could but ...

H-1b visas are another scam that should be stopped.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Don't know. This is what I have been told several times over.

The guy who I trained was a contractor which meant his company paid the tax or what ever. The nurses and lab techs my sister worked with were clear, they do not have to enroll into the health care programs at these places because they are covered by Canadian health care which meant a savings by the company.

The point is, it happens. Someone from India or Sri Lanka or Pakistan (even Africa) can move to Canada, get employed here or in Buffalo or over there on the west side of the country and just drive to work across the border to work while the company that hire them enjoys a BIG savings.

Here is another case.

There is an electronic assembly company in the area that is owned by Indians. They use the H-1b visa to get some of the design staff into the country and then they 'sponsor' the workers into Canada or here, most of them are living in Windsor. They all work at two plants here, and bused in daily. Some of the wives come in and run the kitchen and others take care of the kids over there. The company can claim 100% US made products and it is but the wages are under the norm for the type of work which undercut the competition. When there was a down turn in the economy, they cut some of the workers who went back to India. It is a pretty good gig for the owners who actually outsourced while in-sourcing.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Scams like this have been going on in Michigan for YEARS. Nothing new. OVM, you just made the mistake of being legal. :rolleyes:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
It is not a matter of what happened in 2003 or what has been going on forever...the fact is barry said that we needed to keep these IT type jobs here instead of "outscourcing" them, and now he is using taxpayer funds to train outshore workers to take more of them....While there are thousands of IT people out of work here in this country....
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I understand that but it is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg. See the real issue is how he has not closed the gaps left from Clinton/Bush on offshore labor usage which is one of the bigger issues. Even if he didn't pay for training, which is wrong when so many here need it, he is forcing the Bush tax scheme to expire and not closing the offshore labor gaps. Both of those will allow more offshore labor use from American companies because they have no choice but to take some more of their operations to cheaper labor markets.

It seems really odd that he is paying for training, allowing offshore labor to be used while standing next to labor as an ally of labor, or am I thinking that labor isn't smart enough to get that - guess a democrat president is going to screw them again, NAFTA anyone?
 
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