More Romney 's cult

[davekc]

Somewhat of a shallow opinion, but your opinion none the less.

I cannot speak for Amonger but if his intentions are to post facts about a certain religion and if he believes he cannot voter for a person for that reason, he has every right to do so. Threads are started everyday here in the soapbox to try and convince people not to vote for Obama. The problem with that though, 9 outta 10 times the threads aren't based on any kind of truth or facts.

The nine or ten threads I see on Obama are something or a response to what he has already done. Granted, that nine out of ten are negative is a different matter. Then it becomes whether a story or link is or isn't factual. Obama wasted taxpayer money on Solyndra. Most would consider that factual.
With religion, you are trying to analyze a believe system and indicate something is factual when in reality that can't be done.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Do you believe that John was referring to North America from that line of scripture?

What can we believe?....only the words to go by....anything is possible....
Maybe S. America, maybe Europe..."other flocks" is pretty vague

 

[witness23]

One problem is strongly held opinion is often wrongly asserted as fact, and is believed to be facts. Another is that sweetened up propaganda is often taken to be factual.

I agree, the mormon religion fits that to a tee, especially when you compare the book of mormon to the Bible.

Yes, it is true that Mormonism, comprising the 4th largest religion in America, is a religious cult. They are a bad, evil cult because they do it a little too differently for mainstream Christians.

I never said that they were bad or evil; misguided in my opinion about the Bible and what it is and what it say's? Yes. I would never condemn someone of their beliefs be it mormon, atheist, catholic or whatever, but don't try and tell me the Bible say's that Jesus was human like you and I that climbed the proverbial ladder to become a God. The Bible simply does not say that.

It's not like the eleven different flavors of Baptist cults because at least those Baptists are in the ballpark playing the same game .

The key part to that statement is the fact that they are playing the same game. They haven't introduced special revelations, extra scripture, made unverifiable claims, said God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is something totally different than what the Bible say's it is. If you don't believe in the Bible then you are correct in your statemen and if you choose to follow mormonism or scientology for the matter, more power to ya.

But those evil Mormons, "How DARE they take MY Bible and interpret it wrong! How DARE they believe in something IN ADDITION to the Bible! Where's my snake?"

You know how you always accuse me of being confrontational for the sake of being confrontational? Take a look in the mirror.

The only way you can say things like that above is if you don't believe in Jesus and the Bible, which is all well and good. But if you do not know what the Bible says and more importantly believe it as the infallible word of God, with all due respect, there really isn't any reason for you to be commenting on the subject at hand.

 

[muttly]

Somewhat of a shallow opinion, but your opinion none the less.

I cannot speak for Amonger but if his intentions are to post facts about a certain religion and if he believes he cannot voter for a person for that reason, he has every right to do so. Threads are started everyday here in the soapbox to try and convince people not to vote for Obama. The problem with that though, 9 outta 10 times the threads aren't based on any kind of truth or facts.

That's funny right there.

 

[witness23]

What can we believe?....only the words to go by....anything is possible....
Maybe S. America, maybe Europe..."other flocks" is pretty vague

I would ask you to read the book of John and then ask yourself that question.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Thats ok....I'll be a sheep....

Ok 1 question?......Where did all the people come from? I mean if Adam and Eve were the first...and the only people God made....

 

[witness23]

I just thought of something......it is funny how we have some in here defending, justifying, believeing, making light of the mormon religion. Because what the mormon religion does is take the context of what Christianity is(Truth), twist it(Spin it) and put it out there to support mormonism.

Since we have such a concentration of conservative, right wing listeners of the the radio, online publications and FoxNews viewers here in the soapbox it makes sense that you would dismiss what the mormon religion really is. And it aint Christianity my friend.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I just thought of something......it is funny how we have some in here defending, justifying, believeing, making light of the mormon religion. Because what the mormon religion does is take the context of what Christianity is(Truth), twist it(Spin it) and put it out there to support mormonism.

Since we have such a concentration of conservative, right wing listeners of the the radio, online publications and FoxNews viewers here in the soapbox it makes sense that you would dismiss what the mormon religion really is. And it aint Christianity my friend.

Apparently someone seems to care..?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I thought it weird all the Evangelists and Christians could discount Romneys Mormon believes...and yet criticize some Muslums believes...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I thought it weird all the Evangelists and Christians could discount Romneys Mormon believes...and yet criticize some Muslums believes...

I wonder if Romney had been say a Buddhist?

 

[davekc]

I thought it weird all the Evangelists and Christians could discount Romneys Mormon believes...and yet criticize some Muslums believes...

I wonder if Romney had been say a Buddhist?

No need to wonder. Witness would want him arrested.

 

[Turtle]

Religion, Christianity in particular, but by no means limited to Christianity, is a very powerful and versatile tool when used to further man's beliefs, wants and desires. It's so versatile that is allows one to criticize and bludgeon other religions, while at the same time utterly dismissing as irrelevant those same things about their own religion.

Despite the friendly, cordial, civil facade that Mormons wear in public, they are underneath it all a very weird people. Then again, I can think of very few religions where the same thing cannot also be said of it's adherents.

 

[AMonger]

Must have been it. Religions are mans inventions. All all flawed because man has put his stamp on each one. To pick on one, or those that one does not believe in, is not good. After all, there is a chance that one could be wrong. Blind faith is blind.

God founded OT Judaism & Christianity. The others are man's invention.

 

[AMonger]

Humph, if we don't play the way I want then I'm going home and not play at all, aka I'll vote for a 10 on the negative scale rather than a 7 on the negative scale because I can't vote for my guy so I don't care if the decidedly worse guy wins, or, I won't vote at all even though that means a negative 10 may win rather than a negative 7. Yeah, that's a mature and sensible attitude.

He's not decidedly worse. America is done regardless of which one wins. They are the same. And I won't reward the Republicans for sabotaging the Ron Paul campaign again.

 

[AMonger]

My cinviction and belief is Obama has to go so contrary to some.peoples thinking I am not giving them up. I also do not think America is going to suddenly vome to a screeching halt because the unelectable wont be elected.

This entire thread is about nothing but trying to get some.people not to vote for Romney.

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I don't know of out will be a screeching halt. Maybe more of a whimper. But it will be because of our actions, running up the debt we've run up, allowing our society to rot. If our course doesn't change, we're through. One, and only one, candidate advocates this.

 

[AMonger]

Do you believe that John was referring to North America from that line of scripture?

Unquestionably not. He was referring to gentiles, informing them the kingdom was expanding from just the Jews to the nations.

 

[LDB]

Humph, if we don't play the way I want then I'm going home and not play at all, aka I'll vote for a 10 on the negative scale rather than a 7 on the negative scale because I can't vote for my guy so I don't care if the decidedly worse guy wins, or, I won't vote at all even though that means a negative 10 may win rather than a negative 7. Yeah, that's a mature and sensible attitude.

He's not decidedly worse. America is done regardless of which one wins. They are the same. And I won't reward the Republicans for sabotaging the Ron Paul campaign again.

Point, set and match. I'm done.

 

[AMonger]

I thought it weird all the Evangelists and Christians could discount Romneys Mormon believes...and yet criticize some Muslums believes...

I wonder if Romney had been say a Buddhist?

It would be no different, except Buddhists don't pretend to be Christians. Same as if he was a Muslim. Mormonism, Buddhism, Islam--all false religions.

 

[AMonger]

Point, set and match. I'm done.

Except you don't win anything.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It would be no different, except Buddhists don't pretend to be Christians. Same as if he was a Muslim. Mormonism, Buddhism, Islam--all false religions.

Don't take this personally....you are a religious bigot...I am done with your nonsense...