With the coming of EZ Pass Oct. 1st..talking with a toll taker estimated 300-400 toll personnel will be shown the door 1st of the month...mostly single moms and semi-retired with no real pension plans...
more layoffs for Ohio...
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chefdennis
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I have a family member that works for the ohio turnpike commission as a toll collector...they were offered cash payouts months ago, along with supplimented early retirement for those that were within 1 yr of retirement. Those that will be let go will be the part time workers 1st...then depending on how many still need to be let go after that, a bumping procedure will start to let the oldest full time hires move to any available positions at other gates....then if there are still jobs that need to be cut, fulltime employees will be laidoff according to seniority...no different then any othe place that has a union...ans both part time & fulltime employees are union.....so the statement that it will be, "mostly single moms and semi-retired with no real pension plans... " is b/s......but, even if it weren't where is the union to protect these people?? They let the OTC ignore the seniority list and pick and choose who to layoff??? Starting with single moms and semi-retired??? please........
letzrockexpress
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if something were invented that allowed you run your sprinter on water instead of diesel and it put all the refinery workers out of a job, would you really care much??
miguy1957
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I guess it just a pet peave of mine, I just dont like the idea of places not having someone there to take my money, I was on the indiana toll road and had to feed the machine with no option of a person or a machine, just feed the machine. I wont use the self check out in a store either. Im just old fashion like that I guess..... Just drive by while the state takes money out of you pocket, you dont even have to slow down. How convenent. I must be getting old.
greg334
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It was a thing that was offered to people who are professionals, like I was. I was salaried, had a contract and did a specific job with a specific skill set. When I was laid off, they had a specific formula that was used for our layoffs and the company paid that amount.
Normally an hourly workers don't get a severance. There are a few cases where the company offers it, mainly because of the length of service, like 18 or 22 years.
It seems that many union people get it here but shouldn't at all. Their union should be the one's footing the bill and helping them, not the people or company.
Normally an hourly workers don't get a severance. There are a few cases where the company offers it, mainly because of the length of service, like 18 or 22 years.
It seems that many union people get it here but shouldn't at all. Their union should be the one's footing the bill and helping them, not the people or company.
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
I remember when I was in grade school, back in the 50's, we were taught that in the near future that mankind would be "freed up" from dangerous and mundane jobs. Computers and automation were going to do those jobs leaving us free to "explore" more important things. Well, we are there and so many still want to be paid to do those mundane jobs rather than learn new skills and "explore" what they are capable of. We were aware that these days were coming for more than 40 years. What did those people do to prepare for it? You often reap what you sow. If you did NOT prepare you MIGHT just be in trouble. MAYBE todays youth will pay attention and be prepared for the march of the modern world, YEAH RIGHT!! We will here them whining how they are losing "good jobs".
I don't want our government involved in severence pay, vacations etc. Just ANOTHER layer of socialist government, higher taxes and less freedom to control our OWN lives. Government sucks, and that is the BEST part about government. Severence, pay and vacations are between an employer and their employees. Those are NOT a government function, at least in a free sociaty.
The "heck" with the laws, gut government. Get back to freedom. Take our control back. GOVERNMENT SUCKS!!!!
AND gets it in the end from the government AND the unions as well!! They LET them do it to them. Government can be trusted less than employers and unions. They have been allowed to take control. They have the POWER now. WE have to take it back. Start with gutting government, then find a way to control companies and unions. FIGHT the biggest fight first. Until we control government we will NEVER come out ahead.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
So the laws work against people like me and actually the workers over all.
I'm employed at a shop where they build widgets that go on the widget mobile.
Great I have 2% of my pay into vacation and all these other benefits but then the manufacture that we sell the widgets too says to my employer "we have a problem, X company is building a competitive vehicle and we are losing market share. So we are asking our suppliers to reduce the cost so we can be competitive without going overseas for those widgets you make".
So the company I work for cuts everything they can to make these widgets competitive with an overseas widgets but still in the end, they have to lay off people and shut production down.
The reason for this is I, as an employee can not go to the company and say "I want to help, I will take no paid vacation and a reduction in my pay" because of the labor laws. I can't not individually bargain with the company for my job, only collective bargaining is allowed in my state and other half a** backward states.
And if this company was hurting but I don't work there, I can not say "I will work for you for $4 dollars less than what you are paying those guys to do that work" because many of the progressively backwards states like Michigan don't have right to work laws where I can do that. TO be exact, I can not ask for below minimum wage if I was an employee because the burden is on the employer, not the employee.
Labor laws are skewed to prevent individual people from being protected by protecting the masses in archaic ways.
I'm employed at a shop where they build widgets that go on the widget mobile.
Great I have 2% of my pay into vacation and all these other benefits but then the manufacture that we sell the widgets too says to my employer "we have a problem, X company is building a competitive vehicle and we are losing market share. So we are asking our suppliers to reduce the cost so we can be competitive without going overseas for those widgets you make".
So the company I work for cuts everything they can to make these widgets competitive with an overseas widgets but still in the end, they have to lay off people and shut production down.
The reason for this is I, as an employee can not go to the company and say "I want to help, I will take no paid vacation and a reduction in my pay" because of the labor laws. I can't not individually bargain with the company for my job, only collective bargaining is allowed in my state and other half a** backward states.
And if this company was hurting but I don't work there, I can not say "I will work for you for $4 dollars less than what you are paying those guys to do that work" because many of the progressively backwards states like Michigan don't have right to work laws where I can do that. TO be exact, I can not ask for below minimum wage if I was an employee because the burden is on the employer, not the employee.
Labor laws are skewed to prevent individual people from being protected by protecting the masses in archaic ways.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
I don't see taking responsibility for one's self as enterprising, I see it as a right to survive.
If I can do a job that someone else is doing and I can do it for half the cost, then I should have that right to ask. If the employer is smart, he will reject my offer because of loyalty towards that person being there for that employer.
If I can do a job that someone else is doing and I can do it for half the cost, then I should have that right to ask. If the employer is smart, he will reject my offer because of loyalty towards that person being there for that employer.