Job listings in Chattanooga , tn.

[skyraider]

Chattanooga has a population of roughly 300,000 to 400k. The want ads today listed approximately 125 jobs. I counted the highlighted black squares many companies use to catch your eye.....Out of the 125, 25 were for truck driving jobs of 18 wheelers.

Many years ago like 10, the classified ads were 4 to 5 pages, now we are down to 2 maybe. On one page a company had a 8 x 11 ad for some director job and another was for something similar. Ok, so half the page was for 2 jobs and the rest was , well those little ads. The city still has many factories, but hiring is at an all time low. 8.5 pct unemployment which is close to the national average.

My point is: If Chattanooga has only 125 ads tops and those same truck driving jobs as you know are run in 100s of cities, where are the good jobs? What is a good job?

(( If Chattanooga has only 125 jobs listed in a Sunday paper, it must be awful in larger cities of 2 or 3 million ))

No wonder entitlements will get Obama elected and if you are in your 50s or 60s looking for work,,,,,,,,,ha ha, forget it, got buddies doing that, it aint fun and does not look promising for them............

We have lost many smokestack factories due to the city wanting to go green and tourist centered. That was about 20k plus jobs ago. Now we do have the VW plant , that is a plus for now, but not enough.

 

[xiggi]

Times have changed. These days the majority of job openings never make the paper. Not saying the job market doesn't stink it is just a new day in advertising those positions.

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[skyraider]

Times have changed. These days the majority of job openings never make the paper. Not saying the job market doesn't stink it is just a new day in advertising those positions.

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I agree with you on that.

 

[purgoose10]

Chattanooga has a population of roughly 300,000 to 400k. The want ads today listed approximately 125 jobs. I counted the highlighted black squares many companies use to catch your eye.....Out of the 125, 25 were for truck driving jobs of 18 wheelers.



No wonder entitlements will get Obama elected and if you are in your 50s or 60s looking for work,,,,,,,,,ha ha, forget it, got buddies doing that, it aint fun and does not look promising for them...........(quote).


I think 1/2 the guy's that are in their sixties are driving C/Vans haulin freight.

 

[layoutshooter]

Chattanooga has a population of roughly 300,000 to 400k. The want ads today listed approximately 125 jobs. I counted the highlighted black squares many companies use to catch your eye.....Out of the 125, 25 were for truck driving jobs of 18 wheelers.



No wonder entitlements will get Obama elected and if you are in your 50s or 60s looking for work,,,,,,,,,ha ha, forget it, got buddies doing that, it aint fun and does not look promising for them...........(quote).


I think 1/2 the guy's that are in their sixties are driving C/Vans haulin freight.

Goes for us guys in straight trucks too.

 

[skyraider]

Chattanooga has a population of roughly 300,000 to 400k. The want ads today listed approximately 125 jobs. I counted the highlighted black squares many companies use to catch your eye.....Out of the 125, 25 were for truck driving jobs of 18 wheelers.



No wonder entitlements will get Obama elected and if you are in your 50s or 60s looking for work,,,,,,,,,ha ha, forget it, got buddies doing that, it aint fun and does not look promising for them...........(quote).


I think 1/2 the guy's that are in their sixties are driving C/Vans haulin freight.

Funny , a friend of mine in his 60s says the same thing, and yes he is a cv man.

 

[paullud]

The problem with counting help wanted ads is that the majority if people do not use them to get jobs. A person actively searching for work is filling out applications and sending out resumes to everywhere they can think of. Also in a place with higher unemployment a company would be less likely to spend money on help wanted ads since they likely have a backup of applications.

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[skyraider]

The problem with counting help wanted ads is that the majority if people do not use them to get jobs. A person actively searching for work is filling out applications and sending out resumes to everywhere they can think of. Also in a place with higher unemployment a company would be less likely to spend money on help wanted ads since they likely have a backup of applications.

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I always in the 70s and 80s went by shoe leather and applied for jobs cold calling. It always worked for me that way, but that was yesterday, and yesterdays gone. I should write a song.lol

 

[davekc]

In todays environment you have to search for a need and create your own job/opportunity. As we say waiting on someone else might translate in to a long wait.

 

[cheri1122]

In todays environment you have to search for a need and create your own job/opportunity. As we say waiting on someone else might translate in to a long wait.

Nice one, Dave - in today's environment, the only need and opportunity most folks will find is just going to make the illegal drug problem much worse.
Seriously: if most people are the material executives are made of, who's going to work for them? Too many chiefs, not enough Indians, I think someone once mentioned.....

 

[xiggi]

Wow can't even read half the posts!

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[cheri1122]

That 'smart' phone isn't, always?
Wait - it might be smarter than me, I read all the posts, lol.

 

[davekc]

Nice one, Dave - in today's environment, the only need and opportunity most folks will find is just going to make the illegal drug problem much worse.
Seriously: if most people are the material executives are made of, who's going to work for them? Too many chiefs, not enough Indians, I think someone once mentioned.....

I believe some have found the drug trade quite lucrative but not quite so sustaining.
I do believe the opportunities are out there but people don't capitalize on them.
Case in point. Seen a Stossel show outside NYC unemployment office where one after the other professed "there are no jobs". So, they worked a ten block area from that office and found 35 places looking for help with signs in there windows. Everyone wants to start at the top, and if you have nothing, you have to start somewhere and rebuild. Just like in expediting, we get calls all the time from new people, no experience, and want a new truck to drive and 100k a year. Yet...they have no employment. Just amazing.

 

[Brisco]

As mentioned earlier, you cannot judge how the local job market is for any area by relying on the local "Newspaper" ads......not in todays internet driven lifestyle.

Who reads newspapers today????? Newspapers are sooooo 1990's.

I just looked at your local CL site:

craigslist: chattanooga classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events

There are a LOT of jobs available in your area......more than that 100 or so you found in that paper thingy. Bet I'll find a LOT more jobs listed on careerbuilder...com too.

Sure....there's nowhere near enough to satisfy the unemployment levels, but there are JOBS available in your area. Let's hope the number of jobs that are available rises once we get that JA out of the White House coming this November.

 

[cheri1122]

I believe some have found the drug trade quite lucrative but not quite so sustaining.
I do believe the opportunities are out there but people don't capitalize on them.

agree. The question is why they don't, and I think attributing it to 'don't wanna' is just taking the easy way out. Of course it's true of some people, but most have valid reasons [the biggest being lack of child care and reliable transportation] for not taking advantage of available jobs, and until & unless those reasons are addressed, nothing will improve.

Case in point. Seen a Stossel show outside NYC unemployment office where one after the other professed "there are no jobs". So, they worked a ten block area from that office and found 35 places looking for help with signs in there windows.

but they didn't go back to the unemployment office to ask people why they didn't take those jobs, did they? If they were interested in the truth, they would have, IMO. Either expose the lazy people, or learn that their preconceived notions are wrong, but I bet they didn't find out which...

Everyone wants to start at the top, and if you have nothing, you have to start somewhere and rebuild. Just like in expediting, we get calls all the time from new people, no experience, and want a new truck to drive and 100k a year. Yet...they have no employment. Just amazing.

Just for fun, how about keeping track for awhile: how many applicants you get, and how many of them want to "start at the top" - I know there are some, [I've seen their posts here, lol] but I disagree that they are the majority of people looking for work. What I've seen, both in the media and in my own experience, is people who understand that they're not going to find the job of their dreams, but they aren't willing to take one that will end up costing them more than they make, factoring in childcare, transportation [when it's a long commute, that makes a big dent in the budget], sometimes a new wardrobe [banks want tellers to dress nicely, on little more than minimum wage]and whatever else applies.
A job that offers low wages, part time hours, no benefits, and other drawbacks is a job that can leave one in even worse financial shape than unemployment, and that's what most of those jobs offered, I bet.

 

[davekc]

Just to touch on a couple of things. They did go back and most had every reason under the sun. But having kids was high on the womens list. Some could have been part-time jobs but some of them clearly were not. Maybe someone has to work two jobs or two part-time jobs to get something going. Doesn't mean they do it forever. Even more so if they have kids or lack transportation. Surely you aren't expecting everyone else to subsidize their poor choices earlier in life for a indefinite amount of time?
I just think you have to get started somewhere. If you are starting at zero, then anything that carries your costs and more is a positive why you look for something else.
You mentioned a new bank employee. I knew someone that got a job as a executive secretary and had those dress right requirements. Got all of her business clothes at Goodwill and Salvation army for under 100 bucks. Just have to be resourceful in that situation.
Doing nothing for whatever the reason, is going to give them that same result.

 

[aristotle]

Military service is an option for young adults. Excellent benefits, lots of travel, opportunities for advancement based on merit, develops leadership skills. Plus, there is the lifelong satisfaction of having served your country in a meaningful way. Pay is low relative to hardship involved. Still, many successful adults point to their time in military service as the most rewarding experience of their early years.

 

[Humble2drive]

I just think you have to get started somewhere. If you are starting at zero, then anything that carries your costs and more is a positive why you look for something else.
You mentioned a new bank employee. I knew someone that got a job as a executive secretary and had those dress right requirements. Got all of her business clothes at Goodwill and Salvation army for under 100 bucks. Just have to be resourceful in that situation.
Doing nothing for whatever the reason, is going to give them that same result.

Agreed.
I have met many resourceful people where I live during the past year who have taken initiative. They post an add on Craigslist or similar (free at your local library)
And stay busy doing landscaping, pet sitting, house cleaning, construction clean up, handy man services, car detailing, etc. etc.
Most likely under the table style of course. No big deal as long as they are not collecting unemployment.

 

[davekc]

Your exactly right. Many of those jobs are under the table (my support for a flat/consumption tax and no IRS). Basically a whole untapped second economy.
But that aside, I just can't go along with supporting people forever. And in Cheri's example, that is essentially what we are talking about if we say people can't do anything for lack of childcare or transportation. Sometimes people have to move to where the work is. Sometimes one has to work two jobs to get going. If they are buying xboxes, big screens, iphones, and all the other stuff, my guess is the majority on assistance can find a way to move. It is a matter of taking some initiative. I have no problem helping someone who fell on hard times, but after a year, you got to cut it off. Assistance is to help people, not provide a lifestyle.

 

[cheri1122]

Just to touch on a couple of things. They did go back and most had every reason under the sun. But having kids was high on the womens list.

So I have to wonder why the party of 'Family Values' is preoccupied with issues like defunding Planned Parenthood and defending marriage, while doing nothing at all about the primary reason mothers have difficulty obtaining and/or keeping a job: dependable and affordable child care. Because leaving the kids home alone is not an option, any more than leaving them with someone you don't trust - assuming you can find someone who will agree to do it, which is a whole nother problem.

Some could have been part-time jobs but some of them clearly were not. Maybe someone has to work two jobs or two part-time jobs to get something going.

Working two jobs isn't as simple as it sounds: even without transpo problems, the coordination of two different bosses' agendas makes it nearly impossible for the workers who can't satisfy the needs of both. I know this from experience.

Doesn't mean they do it forever. Even more so if they have kids or lack transportation. Surely you aren't expecting everyone else to subsidize their poor choices earlier in life for a indefinite amount of time?
Surely you aren't expecting the children to pay for the parents' dumb mistakes or failed efforts or the circumstances beyond their control that left them unemployed?
Try looking at 'subsidizing' as an investment in our greatest resource: people. And no, it shouldn't last indefinitely, but the problem is that they aren't finding jobs that allow them to be self sufficient, and that's what needs to change first. Only then can we separate the truly lazy people who don't deserve the help and figure out what to do with them.

I just think you have to get started somewhere. If you are starting at zero, then anything that carries your costs and more is a positive why you look for something else.

You're assuming that once started, the trajectory goes up: wages increase and budgeting gets easier. Unemployment throws everything into reverse, and people are now seeing the 'new' job disappear same as the 'old' one. How many times can one start over before losing the will to do it all over? [The older one gets & the longer unemployed, the less chance of success, you know.]

You mentioned a new bank employee. I knew someone that got a job as a executive secretary and had those dress right requirements. Got all of her business clothes at Goodwill and Salvation army for under 100 bucks. Just have to be resourceful in that situation.

I used to buy 'work' clothes there too, lol, couldn't see wasting money on stuff that was going to get ruined pretty quickly [burns from welding, slashes from sharp steel, grease stains, etc]. But "less than $100" might as well be a million if you're flat busted, and can't pay the rent this month....

Doing nothing for whatever the reason, is going to give them that same result.

Doing nothing? Have you seen the stories about what happens when there's a 'job fair' somewhere?! Or when a new factory is announced? Or a major corp announces extra hiring for the holidays? They're not complaining of a shortage of applicants, are they?
PEOPLE WANT TO WORK. but expecting them to do it for wages that require a second or third job just to exist is undermining the stability of society and the family.
I say leaders should identify the obstacles that keep people from employment, eliminate them [the obstacles, not the people!], and those who remain unemployed can starve, because they have no excuses left.