Its coming

[theBeemer]

See this guy here?
True Torah Jews Against Zionism
He was a Rabbi in the Cleveland area.Funny I live there too.I might even know a few who attend Telshe Yeshiva. Every so often you would hear him on Public Radio. A article of his....It changes daily so I am kind enough to copy it. But go to their website and all of you great learned people who like wolfs attacked and belittled me, well go there and tell them how wrong they are. How you know more then they do..And every thing I posted is wrong. And tell them they are anti semitic and all of your b-ll Sh-- you ganged up on me about. Go tell them. Call them up..Tell them if your anti zionist you anti semitic..Im sure they will put you your place to.
I don't understand sheeple who always have their heads in sand and believe only what the select few want them to believe.

Traditional Jews Are Not Zionists
Although there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.

Words of the Rabbis Opposing Zionism - Today's Quote

Rabbi Mordechai Gifter, Dean of Telshe Yeshiva, Cleveland Ohio
Rabbi Mordechai Gifter, Dean of Telshe Yeshiva, Cleveland Ohio We know the truth. The truth is that Zionism is a curse, and that's the way it is. Zionism is murder! And that's what it really is, because it is true! Who threw the Jews into the ocean when they wanted to travel to Eretz Yisroel in 1941? Who sank the boat (called the 'Patria') with about 1000 Jews on it? Who? The Nazis? Zionists did it! Yes, the Zionists! What is that? Is it not murder? Murderers!! Because of Zionism, one is allowed to kill Jews? Didn't these murderers say that the Jews of Europe are the "sacrifices" which we have to bring to have a Jewish "state" in Eretz Yisroel (G-d forbid)? Didn't they say this? Don't they have printed black and white statements which everybody can read? Didn't this man with the name, "Yitzchok Greenbaum" say in Warsaw that all religious Jews should be thrown into the ocean? And all this because of Zionism! And he wasn't ashamed of these words! I ask you: Is this right? Is this being nice? Is this grace? This is MURDER! Without any excuse, it is murder! G-d comes and punishes us, and He says to us that if we brought up in our midst such and Esau - one who is against Torah, against religion, against everything a Jew is - then we suggest a hint to the world, and it calls us Racists, Murderers, Terrorists! We are called murderers, who kill women and children. The Gentiles say this and it makes an impression on us, and we scream. How terrible! How can they speak this way about the Jewish people?

 

[theBeemer]

Hey beemer, in a Zionist controlled media; Turtle, myself or anyone can insult you. That's just the way it is. You are powerless. The Zionist control your screen. (Twilight Zone reference) Much the same way the Anti Zionists (Nazi reference) control your one track E.O. postings.

As for insulting your intelligents (sic) by calling you anti semitic (sic) you pretty much do a fine job of that all by your lonesome. You really should re-read some of your previous postings.

I know you are Rhodes scholar call this Rabbi and tell him he is for speaking out agaisnt the same bunch I did. Tell him he is anti semitic

I've posted a lot of worthless drivel in my time. But at least the theme is varied. <You are programmed to do a one track tune, over and over.>
actually you are bend over and take it bend over and take it..
<I think it is time for you to get reprogrammed.>
actually its time you get a program
Or like Ark suggested, get into model airplanes. Find some type of outlet for your pent up frustrations other than your tired anti-Zionist saw. Get a job, find a woman, drink, masturbate, do a deli crawl, take drugs or do something other than post your misguided, ill conceived and regurgitated garbage that your master directs you to do. Open your mind. Expand your horizons. Think for yourself. Subscribe to Timothy Leary's theory. Tune in. Turn on. Drop out. Yeah that's it. Drop out.

Actually all of the above you should.do.Plus pull your head out of the sand and open your eyes..By the way you really don't have to jump on the boat to insult me

By the way call these folks up and tell them word for word what you typed here about me..Its a long speech of his here but I will post it just to humilate you...Your wrong,about everything here.. do you want their number?
Read the next posting first then tell them

 

[theBeemer]

Rabbi Mordechai Gifter, Dean of Telshe Yeshiva, Cleveland Ohio

Don't forget all of your Rhodes Scholars tell these people they are anti semitic and if you can read all way down the second posting of his speech you can see their address and phone.. Go on call them tell them that YOU know more the THEY do.....Schmucks

TRANSLATION OF SPEECH OF RABBI MORDECHAI GIFTER ON ZIONISM
Things have been happening lately concerning Jews. We have to know about this and we have to know how to look at these events. We have to look at them with a Jewish look - with a Jewish eye, and not the way the non-Jews look at such things. But there are some Jews who look at them the way the non-Jewish people do, and understand them the way they do. This is one of the greatest tragedies in Jewish history.

The Torah says,

"Remember the past of the world, and understand each annal of the past for the future." If you want to understand the annals of the past, the changes from one generation to another - what is happening, to understand what it means - you have to look with another eye. You can't just look at the thing alone, but you have to go back all the way to the earlier times. You have to look back to the six days of Creation. You have to have a Creation view. If you give it thought and believe that G-d created the world, that HE is the supervisor over all the worlds, that HE doesn't leave the world for even one minute - if this is clear to you, and with this belief you look at today's world - it can lead to understanding each annal of the past for the future. Then you will look at these things and understand them, like a Jew should understand them. But if you don't know from remembering the past, then you are influenced from what you see today, and you don't look at it like a Jew should.

There is, today, an outburst of anti-Semitism in the world: an anti-Semitism that was never before equaled in the world, that was never so sophisticated. It is comprised not of plain, empty wild words, but rather on such a high standard that it should be called 'politics'. This has never happened before.

It is axiomatic that Esau hates Jacob. But such an anti-Semitism that appears nowadays is different. It means that something is happening here. Of course, if you are a Jew, it hurts, and you start to scream and protest and you make meetings about democracy. But idiots! What democracy? When democracy? It is hatred! It has nothing to do with democracy!! And a Jew who is silly and gets excited about it shows that he doesn't think like a Jew should think and it is a pity on him. Remember the annals of history! If we look back, where a Jew is to look, we see that the question is posed, where do we get the name 'Sinai'? From there came forth hated ('sinnah'). We received the Torah and therefore, others hate us. One is not allowed to get excited, because it can't be otherwise. But there are things happening which obligate us to stop and examine how they could occur. We know that Jews are hated, but to say that Jews are Nazis is not pure hatred. A person must speak with sense. He should be ashamed to say such words. It is just the opposite: We could feel that with our hands. To say that Jews are Nazis, Jews are racists - that is already another thing. Everybody had something to say. Hitler wrote a full-length book, in which he put forth reasons why to hate Jews. It had reasons, from his viewpoint, why it had to be that way. But to say about the most oppressed people in history - the Jews - and nobody has suffered as much as the Jews - that they are Nazis and racists means that we are involved in a situation involving a notorious hate unto death. Today, this is in the form of "United Nations", where everybody sits and everybody can speak and they accept resolutions. And this U.N. has passed a resolution that Jewish people are racist.

But herein lies one other thing: The "language" from today's hatred is completely new, and this is a phenomenon to which we have to devote thought and which we must take into account. Today's language proclaims that it is not the Jews who are bad - it is only Zionism which is a curse on the world. Our villifiers don't say "anti-Jews", only "anti-Zionism". We know that they mean Jews, but the language is not Jews, only Zionists. And this is a clear and novel approach which, since the time there were Jews and there was anti-Semitism, was never before used as a method of bringing out the hatred. It means that we have to think about it, and when a Jew thinks and looks at the annals of the past, he has much to learn.

We know the truth. The truth is that Zionism is a curse, and that's the way it is. Zionism is murder! And that's what it really is, because it is true! Who threw the Jews into the ocean when they wanted to travel to Eretz Yisroel in 1941? Who sank the boat (called the 'Patria') with about 1000 Jews on it? Who? The Nazis? Zionists did it! Yes, the Zionists! What is that? Is it not murder? Murderers!! Because of Zionism, one is allowed to kill Jews? Didn't these murderers say that the Jews of Europe are the "sacrifices" which we have to bring to have a Jewish "state" in Eretz Yisroel (G-d forbid)? Didn't they say this? Don't they have printed black and white statements which everybody can read? Didn't this man with the name, "Yitzchok Greenbaum" say in Warsaw that all religious Jews should be thrown into the ocean? And all this because of Zionism! And he wasn't ashamed of these words! I ask you: Is this right? Is this being nice? Is this grace? This is MURDER! Without any excuse, it is murder! G-d comes and punishes us, and He says to us that if we brought up in our midst such and Esau - one who is against Torah, against religion, against everything a Jew is - then we suggest a hint to the world, and it calls us Racists, Murderers, Terrorists! We are called murderers, who kill women and children. The Gentiles say this and it makes an impression on us, and we scream. How terrible! How can they speak this way about the Jewish people?

But it's interesting. They don't say that Jews are murderers. Only Zionists are murderers. This is an awesome thing. That repeats itself thousands of times and it doesn't stop. Some make protests. They write articles in the newspapers. They go to Washington to explain to the President of the United States what Zionism means - and that G-d forbid it's not this way - but we know the truth: Zionism says and Zionism actually does with its own hands the killing of Jews for an "Ideal"! Is it right that one Jew should kill another for an "ideal"? What right do they have to do this - to sink them in the ocean? Did you ever hear such stories as those that Jews forget and don't want to know? Yet this is what is being spoken from the mouths of the evil ones. They go and tell these stories to the U.N., for the whole world. But, in reality, this is being spoken to us from Heaven. G-d speaks to us, and wants to awaken us, and speaks to us through their mouths. A new language has begun: Therefore, a Jew has to decide why others speak to us in this way. It is only because we are being called into account in Heaven.

 

[theBeemer]

Part two of Rabbi Mordechai Gifter
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Here is another interesting story: When the business began in the U.N., it started through a man who has been called the President of Uganda: 'Idi Amin'. He started using these words, and now it has continued much further along. Day after day, the world has been talking about this. It is a wonder: Uganda? Uganda cares for the world? Why is it this way? We could understand what is happening here if one has only a little bit of common sense. Who established Zionism? Was it we religious people who love Eretz Yisroel? Was it we, who say, "for the sake of Zion I shall not be silent"? No! Zionism was established by a certain man who was a journalist in Austria: Theodore Herzl. He made Zionism! And he didn't believe in G-d! He lived with a non-Jewess! He had Gentile children - and he was the one who established Zionism! He wanted to "save" Jews, who, during those times, experiences many difficulties. Do you know how he said he wanted to save the Jews? Let me tell you some history:

He said that Jews should go to "Uganda" in Africa, and establish there a "Jewish State". That is what he said, and that is what is meant by him: Jews, Zion and Jerusalem. But he saw that that suggestion was no good. Jews didn't want to go to Uganda. So he decided to speak a different language. He would tell them to go to Eretz Yisroel, to the Holy Land, and make it an old-new land (alt-neuland). That meant that the old land would become a new land. What does it mean: "a new land"? It would look like Austria like Germany and like France. We had to establish a Jewish state with the system of all modern countries in Europe. That was the idea of an old-new land. That is why it is no different if it was Uganda or in another land: If not in Uganda, we would make a Uganda in Jerusalem! That was the whole idea, and he wrote that clearly in his book - and from this, the state was established.

Today we see that this Uganda, which was supposed to be a "Jewish State", has been screaming that Zionism is racism. This is not a natural occurrence. We are being shown from heaven that we should come to our senses and understand what we are doing. Are we Jews or are we non-Jews? Are we to be like all other nations, G-d forbid? This is what Herzl writes there in his book. It doesn't contain even a hint about religion, as there is by all other nations of the world. This is because a "Jewish State" has to look like a civilized country in Europe - a nation like all other nations.

Our Rabbis have a good sixth sense. They sense things and they immediately came out with an alarm: that this is dangerous for the Jewish people and for Judaism. The world will get rid of Judaism this way. There will be a new form of Judaism. The French have a land. The Greeks have a land. The Americans have a land. The Germans have a land: They all have a land; so we also need a land. This is "Jewish Nationalism:, and some will put all their strength into this undertaking so that the Jewish state should be a nation like all nations. The Jews don't need a Torah or a faith - they only need a state. Our great rabbis of almost 100 years ago warned us and saw that from this a great and terrifying destruction would result for the Jewish people. They saw that there would be a big tragedy coming to the Jewish people, because the Zionists put within their credo one iota of truth. A lie cannot stand on its own, so they put in a little bit of truth, which is called "Love of Zion" - you have to love Eretz Yisroel. But you also have to keep all 613 Mitzvos. So they put in this one iota of truth in order to change the complete lie. Jews became caught in this, and they didn't even feel they were being pulled into hell. Hundreds of thousands of Jews were lost because of this; they became atheists and secularists, totally devoid of Judaism. Along came today's world, in which was started a now form of anti-Semitism. It is called "anti-Zionism", and it has a reason. Truthfully, the nations of the world are speaking to us. We have to consider what form this message is taking, and that is something new, because it is made especially for us. We are being shown how much the epidemic took from Klal Yisroel. We have to awaken ourselves to the fact that Eretz Yisroel belongs to G-d. Eretz Yisroel is for Torah and Mitzvos, and not for a state. It can be a state sometime, but only when it will be to prepare the world for the Kingdom of G-d through the coming of Moshiach.

Such a state the Torah does want, and then the complete hatred of the Jews will go away. It will be as the prophet says - "and all the nations will flow unto you" - but till then, we are not allowed a state. The Torah does not want it. It is contrary to the Torah and contrary to our faith. It is completely incomprehensible how anyone can be so silly as to perform a holy dance in front of such an idol, and not to feel that with this, we are taking upon ourselves the goal of being like all the nations. Even, they themselves, can't judge where they stand in this world, thought they have a land and they have independence! And what does this independence mean? It is only as much as the President of America says they may have, and if they have a little bit too much, be presses his button, sends his messenger the apostate, to say STOP: enough with it. If so, why are they making themselves so silly? Why do they yell? It is really nothing. It is only because Jews have no sense, and they say that we must believe in such things. So the world started speaking a language that would take Jews away from this mistake, because the Jews are sleeping. They don't know where they are at, and they don't know that they have to repent and free themselves from this epidemic.

This school/temple has been around a long long time..So call them up here is there number and address

Telshe Yeshiva
2650 Bishop Rd
Wickliffe, OH 44092
Phone: (440) 585-4980

Cleveland Area

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbinical_College_of_Telshe
Little history of it....Really I beg all of you great learned people call them and tell them they are wrong..

Apologies in advance Edgar

 

[Turtle]

Mr. Turtle ,
The way you handle your labels about me is right out of a liberals book...

I'm actually very conservative. I'm also a pragmatist, a realist, employ critical thinking and reasoning skills. And even though they are plain for all to see, you somehow managed to completely miss the methods I used to handle my labels about you, as that is the only logical explanation for you making such a ludicrous statement.

"My opinion only and yours is not needed..classic."

Nice attempt at deflecting things back at me. Problem is, I'm the one making actual sense here.

"Again you did not read all postings,,"

Oh, I most certainly did read all of your postings. Carefully, in fact. Most of the things you have asserted I have replied to. You, on the other hand, have completely ignore most of the more important salient points I have made, as if you hadn't even read them.

"You just say I am antisemtic blah blah.."

Yes, I say that, and a lot more. Please try to keep up.


"So what about the folks who are Jewish and are discusted at the zionist bunch that you love so much are they anti semitic too?"

That's a false premise based upon a false assumption (which you are very good at, by the way). You charge that I love them so much, but that's an untrue statement. Blatantly false, actually. One could even go so far as to label it a lie and a personal attack. In any case, being disgusted with the Zionist bunch and being antisemitic are two different things. There are many different flavors of Jews, and Zionists, just like there are many different flavors of Christians. Not all agree on everything.


"You never did answer that one at all."

Actually, I did. You just failed to read all of my posts.


"So if their are Jewish people who hate zionist and discusted with them what label do you have for them? Anti Semitics of Jewish religion? "

Depending on how they manifest their hatred and disgust, they may very well be labeled antisemitic. It depends. There are several different flavors of Judaism, ya know. You should see how Orthodox Jews, or for that matter all Jewish denominations, treat Messianic Jews. It's not pretty. Whew wee it's not pretty at all. To see what other Jews do and say to Messianic Jews, man, it's hard to believe that these people have an ounce of religion within them at all.


"They must be anti semitic biggits like me Their you go a great answer for you."

Yep, they may very well be. Some, no doubt, are.


"Are they anti semitic because they don't agree with you?"

I really can't see how that would make a difference one way or the other, especially since antisemitism was invented long before I was born.

"Why don't you insult and belittle them too?"

Why should I? Far as I can tell, they haven't posted anything in this thread. But, hey, if it'll make you feel better, consider them belittled and insulted, though I have a feeling they do a pretty good job of that on their own.

"These folks had to jump on my band wagon about hate and paranoia,........hmmmm With your intelligence I actually do expect a much better insult toward me my friend"

No, what you expect is for me to either blindly agree with you (in order to validate your beliefs) or rant and rave and call you childish names (in order for you to feel superior, thus validating your beliefs). I won't do either. Instead, I hit you squarely in the face with intelligence and beat you over your head with the truth, and you can't handle the truth, much less the intelligence, as the lame, sophomoric Rhodes Scholar comments prove. What's next, ya gonna stick your tongue out at me, too?


"And you never did answer my question what if it was Catholics over representated ?"

I didn't answer it because it's irrelevant, not to mention a silly question. Every group is either over or under represented somewhere, somehow.

Then again, on a larger scale, humanity is perfectly represented everywhere. Where you see disparity, I see humanity. It's a "content of their character" thing. I look at the individual, you lump them into groups. It's certainly easier that way, I'll give ya that.


"You propably never even noticed but just thought boy is he anti semitic.. Maybe I am anti Catholic because I brought them up?"

Whether you are Catholic or not is irrelevant to the antisemitic rants you have posted here. They aren't mutually exclusive, you can be both.


"Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?"

I don't know who this Obongo character is. If you mean Obama, well, I can attack him on an intelligent level without having to stoop to the grade school levels of making fun of his name. If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream. It wouldn't surprise me, actually, in this day and age of symbolism over substance, if he did just that, but I do seriously doubt that even he is that stupid. Even if the all-black cabinet he put together were comprised of eminently qualified people, even he knows this country is too divided by race to think that something like that would unite us as a people.

Can you pronounce Obama in such a way that it rhymes with Omaha? And do so without laughing? I can't. But, I digress.

And, for the record, I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American. At most I'd label them as racists, since there are racists who are already screaming about him being a candidate at all. But no way I'd label them as anti African-American. The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it. I'm white, they're black. I'm not a European-American anymore than they are African-American.

"Just what is it.....Make up my mind here? Its ok to have a disaportinate amount of zionist jews but you can't have disaportionate amount of Catholics or Pentacostals or who ever cause thats anti so so .....right"

Like I illustrated in a previous posting, there are many areas of the country and many sectors of the workforce and leadership where there is a dispropotionate amount of one particular group or another. It happens all the time all over the place. Should I go balistic because all the nail salons are run by Koreans? Or because a disturbing percentage of the hotels and motels in this country are owned by Indians? Do you have any idea how many Chinese restaurants are owned by people from China? Why aren't you outraged at all of this? You sure seem awfully outraged at Zionists. Are you picking and choosing your outrage? Got a label for that?


"And yes the Kosher tax is one heck of scam..."
It's not a tax and it's not a scam.

Obviously, you don't have a friggin clue how much you pay for the Kosher certification, even though I've told you how much it is, and you obviously don't know what a tax is.

"A tax on garbage bags and household chemicals.or everything else consumers don't they are paying a special tax on.."
It's not a tax.

"Why is it so hidden from the public if its not a scam?..."
It's not hidden at all. It's right there on the label. Reading comprehension.

"Why isn't it adverstised as such.."
Because it's not a tax. And, I don't recall any manufacturer advertising the pedantic costs of their goods.

Can you imagine the collective load that this country would drop if they knew how much of the price of their new car was directly attributed to the high cost of shuttling parts all over North America via expedited freight? I once hauled two, count'em, two gallons of yellow gloss paint from Laredo to Gaffney, SC. Expedited. 850 miles. Two gallons. That's one helluva tax, isn't it? Why don't they advertise it as such?

"How about a TV add stating....<Hey You Goyim Your paying a Kosher tax for all these years and we never told you.Its not much but over a lifetime it sure is.Just keep on paying it we got plenty of gullables who will back us up in this. Every commodity you buy and many other things have it.>"

I seriously doubt that an ad campaign like that would be very successful.

Have you ever noted the price of something that wasn't certified, and then taken note of the price after the same exact item received certification, and then looked at the price difference between certification and non-certification? I'm willing to bet no.

"Untill the public is aware of it and gets a chance to vote on this it is a scam period."

A public vote? In a free market? Are you serious? There is no vote. The public can buy Kosher or not, there's your vote.

"Taxation without representation."
It's not a tax.

We are, however, well represented in Israel. That should make you happy.


"We get taxed, never had a choice, never knew about it, till a few Goyim started putting the truth out and you got the gull to say it is not a scam?"

It's not a tax, we've always had a choice, and those who never knew about it were too lazy to pay attention in the first place. It's never been a secret. Kosher certification has been around ever since Jews started coming to this country in large numbers.

"There is no question about it."

No, there isn't. There are certainly some questions regarding some of the answers, though.

"Why does a grabage bag need to be labeled kosher?"

It doesn't. But the other plastics made at the garbage bag manufacturing plant most certainly do need to be if they come in contact with food, like plastic wrap, trays, cups, plasticware. If the facility itself is Certified, then everything that comes out of there can be, and usually is, certified. Then, if someone wants to wrap a piece of meat in a garbage bag they will know the garbage bag is Kosher and can therefore be used to wrap the meat safely. Same with cleaning supplies. If any of those are to be used to clean utensils, cutting boards, counters, tables, they can be certified as Kosher, meaning that at no time during the manufacturing or transportation were they in contact with non-Kosher items.

"Shall I show the proof again?"
You've shown very little proof of anything so far. Most of your proof is in the form of illusory correlations, reliance on misinformation, some of which is blatantly invented information, and on assumptions based on thoughts and feelings. This does not constitute proof.

If you have a witness in court, and he lies about something while on the stand, then everything he says becomes highly suspect. You have got to keep in your mind how bullseye dead wrong you were with The Protocols, and if The Protocols were so far off base, then you have to allow for the possibility that everything else connected with The Protocols, as well as with those who continue to believe in them as truth, might also be suspect.

"The reason I focus on the zionist the most? Open your eyes and see who is causing the most damage to our country."

Open your own eyes to the fact that Zionists do not hold a monopoly on damage to moral values.


"And those protocols well even if your a bit correct..."

Excuse me? A "bit" correct? Puhleeze.

"... what stopped them (zionist )from applying them to themselves?"

Not a thing, actually.


"You never did answer that..."
Yes, I did. twice.

"Everything the lie that was copied is coming true."
Well, yes and no. (This one, I've answered several times, but you failed to read it, apparently, or certainly failed comprehend it). It's coming true because it has always come true, regardless of who it is about. Remove all references to Jews, or whatever you wish to call them, and replace the references with "The ones who want power". The original was about Napoleon, and it was coming true then. It was all coming true before it was even written. It's just that it was all coming true about whoever it was that was in power at the time. It'll continue to come true, regardless of who wants the power.


"Something I gave the zionsism scam a defination,,you just never read it.."

I'm beginning to question both your sanity and your reading comprehension skills. I read it, and answered it, multiple times. Why do you keep on saying that I never read it, when clearly I would have had to in order to address it with a reply?


"To busy jumping to conclusions about me"

No need to jump. You lay the conclusions out there for anyone to see.

 

[theBeemer]

I'm actually very conservative. I'm also a pragmatist, a realist, employ critical thinking and reasoning skills. And even though they are plain for all to see, you somehow managed to completely miss the methods I used to handle my labels about you, as that is the only logical explanation for you making such a ludicrous statement.

"My opinion only and yours is not needed..classic."

Nice attempt at deflecting things back at me. Problem is, I'm the one making actual sense here.
It is isn't it...and no your not .Did you read the post about the Jewish Anti Zionist? Yes you know more then them lol,,,,right

"Again you did not read all postings,,"

Oh, I most certainly did read all of your postings. Carefully, in fact. Most of the things you have asserted I have replied to. You, on the other hand, have completely ignore most of the more important salient points I have made, as if you hadn't even read them.

"You just say I am antisemtic blah blah.."

Yes, I say that, and a lot more. Please try to keep up.

Did you read my above posting? Somes it up..


"So what about the folks who are Jewish and are discusted at the zionist bunch that you love so much are they anti semitic too?"

That's a false premise based upon a false assumption (which you are very good at, by the way). You charge that I love them so much, but that's an untrue statement. Blatantly false, actually. One could even go so far as to label it a lie and a personal attack. In any case, being disgusted with the Zionist bunch and being antisemitic are two different things. There are many different flavors of Jews, and Zionists, just like there are many different flavors of Christians. Not all agree on everything.

What more proof could you possible want? Im sure you know more about zionism and how nice they are then the Rabbis that teach at the school posted above..Yes I am sure you do...lol yea right


"You never did answer that one at all."

Actually, I did. You just failed to read all of my posts.


"So if their are Jewish people who hate zionist and discusted with them what label do you have for them? Anti Semitics of Jewish religion? "

Depending on how they manifest their hatred and disgust, they may very well be labeled antisemitic. It depends. There are several different flavors of Judaism, ya know. You should see how Orthodox Jews, or for that matter all Jewish denominations, treat Messianic Jews. It's not pretty. Whew wee it's not pretty at all. To see what other Jews do and say to Messianic Jews, man, it's hard to believe that these people have an ounce of religion within them at all.

Again I am sure you know more then they do...I mean you know did prove I was right the zionist will sacrifice own to get what they want.They kow gullable goyim will defend every thing the vampires do...kinda like you...
"They must be anti semitic biggits like me Their you go a great answer for you."

Yep, they may very well be. Some, no doubt, are.


"Are they anti semitic because they don't agree with you?"

I really can't see how that would make a difference one way or the other, especially since antisemitism was invented long before I was born.

Its quite simple here not hard at all. They pretty believe the same as me or me as them about the zionsit vampires...So you put your labels on me

• 
  so put on them.

"Why don't you insult and belittle them too?"

Why should I? Far as I can tell, they haven't posted anything in this thread. But, hey, if it'll make you feel better, consider them belittled and insulted, though I have a feeling they do a pretty good job of that on their own.

Maybe your afraid to admit Gee Beemer your opinion could mean something and these Jewsish anti zionsit could know something...Maybe for one time in your pompous life you could admit you don't know every thing

"These folks had to jump on my band wagon about hate and paranoia,........hmmmm With your intelligence I actually do expect a much better insult toward me my friend"

No, what you expect is for me to either blindly agree with you (in order to validate your beliefs) or rant and rave and call you childish names (in order for you to feel superior, thus validating your beliefs). I won't do either.Actually you already have several times Instead, I hit you squarely in the face with intelligence and beat you over your head with the truth, and you can't handle the truth, much less the intelligence, as the lame, sophomoric Rhodes Scholar comments prove. What's next, ya gonna stick your tongue out at me, too?

Proved it in above posting..and you stll say they are wrong..This is a real old Jewish school here,,and basically a pompous arrogant Gentile/Goyim knows more then them......Yea right lol Looks like you got hit with the truth over the head and you you can't handle thir might be a school of thougt different then yours by people far more qualified then you to comment on it


"And you never did answer my question what if it was Catholics over representated ?"

I didn't answer it because it's irrelevant, not to mention a silly question. Every group is either over or under represented somewhere, somehow.

Actually your afraid to answer otherwise you would of it.It is relevent

Then again, on a larger scale, humanity is perfectly represented everywhere. Where you see disparity, I see humanity. It's a "content of their character" thing. I look at the individual, you lump them into groups. It's certainly easier that way, I'll give ya that.


"You propably never even noticed but just thought boy is he anti semitic.. Maybe I am anti Catholic because I brought them up?"

Whether you are Catholic or not is irrelevant to the antisemitic rants you have posted here. They aren't mutually exclusive, you can be both.

Tell those people in the above posting I left their address and phone and website they are anti semitc because they don't agree with you....I agree with them you don't so they are anti semtic...Call right now .....


"Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?"

I don't know who this Obongo character is. If you mean Obama, well, I can attack him on an intelligent level without having to stoop to the grade school levels of making fun of his name. If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream. It wouldn't surprise me, actually, in this day and age of symbolism over substance, if he did just that, but I do seriously doubt that even he is that stupid. Even if the all-black cabinet he put together were comprised of eminently qualified people, even he knows this country is too divided by race to think that something like that would unite us as a people.

Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference

Can you pronounce Obama in such a way that it rhymes with Omaha? And do so without laughing? I can't. But, I digress.

And, for the record, I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American. At most I'd label them as racists, since there are racists who are already screaming about him being a candidate at all. But no way I'd label them as anti African-American. The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it. I'm white, they're black. I'm not a European-American anymore than they are African-American.

"Just what is it.....Make up my mind here? Its ok to have a disaportinate amount of zionist jews but you can't have disaportionate amount of Catholics or Pentacostals or who ever cause thats anti so so .....right"

Like I illustrated in a previous posting, there are many areas of the country and many sectors of the workforce and leadership where there is a dispropotionate amount of one particular group or another. It happens all the time all over the place. Should I go balistic because all the nail salons are run by Koreans? Or because a disturbing percentage of the hotels and motels in this country are owned by Indians? Do you have any idea how many Chinese restaurants are owned by people from China? Why aren't you outraged at all of this? You sure seem awfully outraged at Zionists. Are you picking and choosing your outrage? Got a label for that?

HELLO this is the government not a nail salon or hotel..By and for the people..God I know you can come up with something not so lame as that...


"And yes the Kosher tax is one heck of scam..."
It's not a tax and it's not a scam.

Obviously, you don't have a friggin clue how much you pay for the Kosher certification, even though I've told you how much it is, and you obviously don't know what a tax is.
AAHHH Yes I do thats why I mentioned it..Why on earth would a gullable gentile defend it so much?

"A tax on garbage bags and household chemicals.or everything else consumers don't they are paying a special tax on.."
It's not a tax.

Your shake down friends call it a tax..So if they call it a tax how on earth ca you possibly not? Explain that..I will get the popcorn you cook while explaining that one...And you know what..We got along just fine without for over 200 plus years...

"Why is it so hidden from the public if its not a scam?..."
It's not hidden at all. It's right there on the label. Reading comprehension.

In some cases hidden quite well..again why don't they tell the public about their little blessing ?

"Why isn't it adverstised as such.."
Because it's not a tax. And, I don't recall any manufacturer advertising the pedantic costs of their goods.
Again the shake down artist that bring it to us call it tax ,,,,Why on earth would you say it is anything different??

Can you imagine the collective load that this country would drop if they knew how much of the price of their new car was directly attributed to the high cost of shuttling parts all over North America via expedited freight? I once hauled two, count'em, two gallons of yellow gloss paint from Laredo to Gaffney, SC. Expedited. 850 miles. Two gallons. That's one helluva tax, isn't it? Why don't they advertise it as such?

Two gallons of paint have nothing to do with the kosher tax..Unless the paint was kosher...lol yea right

"How about a TV add stating....<Hey You Goyim Your paying a Kosher tax for all these years and we never told you.Its not much but over a lifetime it sure is.Just keep on paying it we got plenty of gullables who will back us up in this. Every commodity you buy and many other things have it.>"

I seriously doubt that an ad campaign like that would be very successful.

I wonder why? Maybe others will wake up to this shakedown scam and put these hucksters out of business?

Have you ever noted the price of something that wasn't certified, and then taken note of the price after the same exact item received certification, and then looked at the price difference between certification and non-certification? I'm willing to bet no.
Besides generic packages show me anything that has't been part of the shakedown? Cancels that argument.I bet the same plants that make the kosher tax ketchup gets stuck paying it

"Untill the public is aware of it and gets a chance to vote on this it is a scam period."

A public vote? In a free market? Are you serious? There is no vote. The public can buy Kosher or not, there's your vote.
Again how many people are aware of it..? So yeaaa there is no free choice

"Taxation without representation."
It's not a tax.
Again the shake down artist themselves call it a tax..Why do you think it isn't?

We are, however, well represented in Israel. That should make you happy.


"We get taxed, never had a choice, never knew about it, till a few Goyim started putting the truth out and you got the gull to say it is not a scam?"

It's not a tax, we've always had a choice, and those who never knew about it were too lazy to pay attention in the first place. It's never been a secret. Kosher certification has been around ever since Jews started coming to this country in large numbers.

"There is no question about it."

The question is why don't they advertise it? As being kosher? as paying a extra sheckel here and there for it? The scam artist call it a tax it is a tax

No, there isn't. There are certainly some questions regarding some of the answers, though.

"Why does a grabage bag need to be labeled kosher?"

It doesn't. But the other plastics made at the garbage bag manufacturing plant most certainly do need to be if they come in contact with food, like plastic wrap, trays, cups, plasticware. If the facility itself is Certified, then everything that comes out of there can be, and usually is, certified. Then, if someone wants to wrap a piece of meat in a garbage bag they will know the garbage bag is Kosher and can therefore be used to wrap the meat safely. Same with cleaning supplies. If any of those are to be used to clean utensils, cutting boards, counters, tables, they can be certified as Kosher, meaning that at no time during the manufacturing or transportation were they in contact with non-Kosher items.

Yea ok right.Ancient times when Kosher Laws were written they had plastic garbage bags, bleach, toilet bowl cleaner that needed to be certified kosher? Are you really that gullable to believe your own writings? .About the ocean front property in Nebraska???

"Shall I show the proof again?"
You've shown very little proof of anything so far. Most of your proof is in the form of illusory correlations, reliance on misinformation, some of which is blatantly invented information, and on assumptions based on thoughts and feelings. This does not constitute proof.

If you have a witness in court, and he lies about something while on the stand, then everything he says becomes highly suspect. You have got to keep in your mind how bullseye dead wrong you were with The Protocols, and if The Protocols were so far off base, then you have to allow for the possibility that everything else connected with The Protocols, as well as with those who continue to believe in them as truth, might also be suspect.

"The reason I focus on the zionist the most? Open your eyes and see who is causing the most damage to our country."

Open your own eyes to the fact that Zionists do not hold a monopoly on damage to moral values.


"And those protocols well even if your a bit correct..."

Excuse me? A "bit" correct? Puhleeze.

"... what stopped them (zionist )from applying them to themselves?"

Not a thing, actually.

Bingo they have quite well


"You never did answer that..."
Yes, I did. twice.

"Everything the lie that was copied is coming true."
Well, yes and no. (This one, I've answered several times, but you failed to read it, apparently, or certainly failed comprehend it). It's coming true because it has always come true, regardless of who it is about. Remove all references to Jews, or whatever you wish to call them, and replace the references with "The ones who want power". The original was about Napoleon, and it was coming true then. It was all coming true before it was even written. It's just that it was all coming true about whoever it was that was in power at the time. It'll continue to come true, regardless of who wants the power.


"Something I gave the zionism scam a defination,,you just never read it.."

I'm beginning to question both your sanity and your reading comprehension skills. I read it, and answered it, multiple times. Why do you keep on saying that I never read it, when clearly I would have had to in order to address it with a reply?


"To busy jumping to conclusions about me"

No need to jump. You lay the conclusions out there for anyone to see.

I have addressed all of your nonsence..The Jewish school here has addressed it to. The Rabbi link I posted addressed quite well too.

Your grace you don't really need to keep proving how great you are to me ok?

Your friends have a name for you starts with P
By the way do the letters F and O have any meaning to you?

 

[Turtle]

I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.

You said: ""Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?""

I replied: "If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream."

And, I also replied: "I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American... The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it."

And you shot back with: "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

What part of my answer do you feel is not an answer? You asked, I answered, I don't know how it can be any plainer than that. It gets tiresome to read your blatant lies and false accusations like this one. You state quite clearly that I did not answer, and that's a blatant lie, even with the truth staring you in the face. That makes everything else you say, everything, not to mention your thought processes, highly suspect. One has to suspect not only your honestly, but your intelligence, as well as your sanity in this discussion. And the rest of your deluded rant falls into the same category.

You state that the people involved in Kosher Certification call it a tax, yet that's a lie. The only people who call it a tax are those who don't want to pay it, for whatever reason, and say it is forced upon them to pay it, which is also a lie. You state that the symbols are hidden on the label. That's a lie. You believe The Protocols, even though they are a lie. The dual citizenship "problem" that you keep hanging your head on is outdated an longer a part of law or State Department policy, and has been outdated for quite some time. To continue to use it to bolster your beliefs is to perpetuate the lie.

According to you there are three kinds of people: those who think like you and agree with you, those who do not think like you do because they are gullible folks who have been brainwashed, and Zionists. That's pretty sad. Of course, I'm well aware that you will view this with amusement since you think I'm one of the latter two groups, which will easily let you feel good and righteous about your deluded self. And that's even sadder, because that is the mark of a closed mind.

 

[Moot]

Red type denotes Beemer speak.

Tax: (noun) is a financial charge or other levy imposed on an individual or a legal entity by a state or a functional equivalent of a state.

Your shake down friends call it a tax..So if they call it a tax how on earth ca you possibly not? Explain that..I will get the popcorn you cook while explaining that one...And you know what..We got along just fine without for over 200 plus years...

Hey Beemer, I found a new scam that is even more devious than that Kosher Tax scam. It is the safety tax scam perpetuated by Underwriters Laboratories. We'll show that Rhodes Scholar Mr. Turtle by asking him a question and "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

This tax involves the Underwriters Laboratory giving their approval to certain products. Every time we as consumers buy something with that hidden UL seal we are paying a tax. The money we spend on this tax doesn't go to cover the testing of UL listed products. It goes directly to the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) Union and to Uruguay, Paraguay and some other Guay countries south of the equator. I'm not exactly sure how many Zionists are involved in this scam but electrical workers are even more insidious than Zionists. Electrical workers control the complete information dissemination process. I once knew a 5th degree electrician. Scary dude! They kow gullable goyim will defend every thing the vampires do...kinda like you...


So how do countries like Uruguay with a population of 3.5 million and made up of 47% Catholics or Paraguay with 6 million people and slightly smaller than California get all of this money and power? What do you say to that Mr. Turtle! Maybe your afraid to admit Gee Beemer your opinion could mean something and these Jewsish anti zionsit could know something...Maybe for one time in your pompous life you could admit you don't know every thing.

That little UL code is hard to find.
In some cases hidden quite well..again why don't they tell the public about their little blessing ?

Moot: "I've posted a lot of worthless drivel in my time. But at least the theme is varied. You are programmed to do a one track tune, over and over."
actually you are bend over and take it bend over and take it..
Moot: "I think it is time for you to get reprogrammed."
actually its time you get a program

Actually your afraid to answer otherwise you would of it.It is relevent


Dear E.O. members; if any of the above made sense to you please seek professional help or join Beemer's crusade to put an end to the Underwriter's Laboratory and all that other stuff he advocates. What about the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval Tax and the I.S.O. Tax. These costs are passed on to the consumer. Then there is the NASCAR Tax I pay every time I buy a box of Tide. Tide passes their NASCAR sponsorship costs to the consumer. I don't follow NASCAR yet I pay the NASCAR Tax. Hey, is Tide Kosher?

 

[theBeemer]

Red type denotes Beemer speak.

Tax: (noun) is a financial charge or other levy imposed on an individual or a legal entity by a state or a functional equivalent of a state.

Your shake down friends call it a tax..So if they call it a tax how on earth ca you possibly not? Explain that..I will get the popcorn you cook while explaining that one...And you know what..We got along just fine without for over 200 plus years...

Hey Beemer, I found a new scam that is even more devious than that Kosher Tax scam. It is the safety tax scam perpetuated by Underwriters Laboratories. We'll show that Rhodes Scholar Mr. Turtle by asking him a question and "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

This tax involves the Underwriters Laboratory giving their approval to certain products. Every time we as consumers buy something with that hidden UL seal we are paying a tax. The money we spend on this tax doesn't go to cover the testing of UL listed products. It goes directly to the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) Union and to Uruguay, Paraguay and some other Guay countries south of the equator. I'm not exactly sure how many Zionists are involved in this scam but electrical workers are even more insidious than Zionists. Electrical workers control the complete information dissemination process. I once knew a 5th degree electrician. Scary dude! They kow gullable goyim will defend every thing the vampires do...kinda like you...


So how do countries like Uruguay with a population of 3.5 million and made up of 47% Catholics or Paraguay with 6 million people and slightly smaller than California get all of this money and power? What do you say to that Mr. Turtle! Maybe your afraid to admit Gee Beemer your opinion could mean something and these Jewsish anti zionsit could know something...Maybe for one time in your pompous life you could admit you don't know every thing.

That little UL code is hard to find.
In some cases hidden quite well..again why don't they tell the public about their little blessing ?

Moot: "I've posted a lot of worthless drivel in my time. But at least the theme is varied. You are programmed to do a one track tune, over and over."
actually you are bend over and take it bend over and take it..
Moot: "I think it is time for you to get reprogrammed."
actually its time you get a program

Actually your afraid to answer otherwise you would of it.It is relevent


Dear E.O. members; if any of the above made sense to you please seek professional help or join Beemer's crusade to put an end to the Underwriter's Laboratory and all that other stuff he advocates. What about the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval Tax and the I.S.O. Tax. These costs are passed on to the consumer. Then there is the NASCAR Tax I pay every time I buy a box of Tide. Tide passes their NASCAR sponsorship costs to the consumer. I don't follow NASCAR yet I pay the NASCAR Tax. Hey, is Tide Kosher?

Never heard of that tax if its true I will look in on ........ There are those taxes you made up but their a kosher and Mr. Turtle even admits to it..Although the hidden don't let the goyim tax is not refered by Mr. Turtle as a tax...And I did ask several good points...
But your greatness I proved the zioness stuff by other jews. A very old institution of them proves me right..HMMMM Wonder where I got some of the info??? Maybe instead of just reading what Mr. Turtle and few other posted you can read the links I posted and come up with your own material..Not that hard to do.. But I am sure you know much more and are more qualified then the students, their teachers, and their Rabbi's..You would have know more then them being under 60 years old the school is at least double that in states here......YES I am sure you know much much more....What a putz

Notice too your tide nascar tax laugh...See unlike the kosher you do have a choice very small one but you do..And buy the way Tide is certified Kosher .

Actually go here
Kosher Symbols | KosherQuest

It will tell you ever shake down symbol in the US Canada and other countries......
The go here for some more information
KosherQuest Online Kashrus Information

Then go to any search engine and type in Kosher products and do your on research...... You really don't need to mimic Mr. Turtle on everything..Actually be yourself for change...Your points are MOOT ha ha ha And when you get some product with a symbol just remember their is a guy making 100 grand a year plus to give his blessing

Then go here and watch some made up videos, just like the Tax I made up and exposed...
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

And in amazement wonder how such a cruel, dispicable, horrible . barbaric, practise could possibley go on in this day and age?

Again thanks for the feed back and get yourown material for a change..at least Mr. Turtle does..And for that I can respect his opinion yours is just a model of his.....Model basically means small imatation of the real thing.
Don't drink and drive
Keep your sunny side up..Goodbye

 

[theBeemer]

I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.

Is it just me or does this really seem foolish? Jews who see through the zionist scams and cruel ways of treating others are anti semitic? Even though they are Jews themselves??? Espicailly since maybe 75 + - percent of them are not even semitic to begin with, zionist and non zionist alike.
Converted Mongol Khazar..Not semitic Jews but converted to Judaism.
O great one please with all of your infinite wisdon shed some light on us Gentiles explaining how it is possible???

You said: ""Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?""

I replied: "If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream."

And, I also replied: "I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American... The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it."

And you shot back with: "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

What part of my answer do you feel is not an answer? You asked, I answered, I don't know how it can be any plainer than that. It gets tiresome to read your blatant lies and false accusations like this one. You state quite clearly that I did not answer, and that's a blatant lie, even with the truth staring you in the face. That makes everything else you say, everything, not to mention your thought processes, highly suspect. One has to suspect not only your honestly, but your intelligence, as well as your sanity in this discussion. And the rest of your deluded rant falls into the same category.

You state that the people involved in Kosher Certification call it a tax, yet that's a lie. The only people who call it a tax are those who don't want to pay it, for whatever reason, and say it is forced upon them to pay it, which is also a lie. You state that the symbols are hidden on the label. That's a lie. You believe The Protocols, even though they are a lie. The dual citizenship "problem" that you keep hanging your head on is outdated an longer a part of law or State Department policy, and has been outdated for quite some time. To continue to use it to bolster your beliefs is to perpetuate the lie.

According to you there are three kinds of people: those who think like you and agree with you, those who do not think like you do because they are gullible folks who have been brainwashed, and Zionists. That's pretty sad. Of course, I'm well aware that you will view this with amusement since you think I'm one of the latter two groups, which will easily let you feel good and righteous about your deluded self. And that's even sadder, because that is the mark of a closed mind.

Where/how on earth do you guys come up with them?

 

[dcalien]

I have addressed all of your nonsence..The Jewish school here has addressed it to. should be the word too, not tol this to should be too The Rabbi link I posted addressed missing word it here quite well too. an it should be inserted between addressed and quite

Your grace you don't really need to keep proving how great you are to me ok?

Your friends have a name for you place the word it here starts with P
By the way do the letters F and O have any meaning to you?

you left out the word it between you and starts

 

[dcalien]

I have addressed all of your nonsence..The Jewish school here has addressed it to.spelled too here The Rabbi link I posted addressed missing word it here quite well too.

Your grace you don't really need to keep proving how great you are to me ok?

Your friends have a name for you starts with P
By the way do the letters F and O have any meaning to you?

ten letters is enough

 

[dcalien]

Where/how on earth do you guys come up with them?

Originally Posted by Turtle
I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.

Is it just me or does this really seem foolish? Jews who see through the zionist scams and cruel ways of treating others are anti semitic? Even though they are Jews themselves??? Espicailly word is spelled especially since maybe 75 + - percent of them are not even semitic to begin with, zionist and non zionist alike.
Converted Mongol Khazar..Not semitic Jews but converted to Judaism.
O great one please with all of your infinite wisdon shed some light on us Gentiles explaining how it is possible???

You said: ""Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate dusorioirtuibnateor a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?""

I replied: "If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream."

And, I also replied: "I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American... The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it."

And you shot back with: "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump adU b arrogance is this supposed to be pompous arrogance, or pomp and circumstance> could answer ..What is the difekerence"spelled difference I believe

What part of my answer do you feel is not an answer? You asked, I answered, I don't know how it can be any plainer thanieve you nmean to write pompous arrogance or pomp and circumstance that. It gets tiresome to read your blatant lies and false accusations like this one. You state quite clearly that I did not answer, and that's a blatant lie, even with the truth staring you in the face. That makes everything else you say, everything, not to mention your thought processes, highly suspect. One has to suspect not only your honestly, but your intelligence, as well as your sanity in this discussion. And the rest of your deluded rant falls into the same category.

You state that the people involved in Kosher Certification call it a tax, yet that's a lie. The only people who call it a tax are those who don't want to pay it, for whatever reason, and say it is forced upon them to pay it, which is also a lie. You state that the symbols are hidden on the label. That's a lie. You believe The Protocols, even though they are a lie. The dual citizenship "problem" that you keep hanging your head on is outdated an longer a part of law or State Department policy, and has been outdated for quite some time. To continue to use it to bolster your beliefs is to perpetuate the lie.

According to you there are three kinds of people: those who think like you and agree with you, those who do not think like you do because they are gullible folks who have been brainwashed, and Zionists. That's pretty sad. Of course, I'm well aware that you will view this with amusement since you think I'm one of the latter two groups, which will easily let you feel good and righteous about your deluded self. And that's even sadder, because that is the mark of a closed mind.

 

[dcalien]

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The go here for some moreKosher information
KosherQueKosher Symbst Online KashruKosher Symbs Information

Then go to any search engine other jews. A very old institution of them proves me right and type in Kosher products and do your on research...... You really don't need to mimic Mr. Turtle on everything..Actually be yourself for change...Your points are MOOT ha ha ha And when you get some product with a symbol just remember their is a guy making 100 grand a year plus to give his blessing

Then go here and watch some made up videos, just like the Tax I made up and exposed...
other jews. A very old institution of them proves me rightYouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

And in amazement wonder how such a cruel, dispicable, horrible . barbaric, practise could possibley go on in t other jews. A very old institution of them proves me righthis day and age?

Again thanks for the feed back and get yourown material for a change..at least Mr. Turtle does..And for that I can respect his opinion yours is just a model of his.....Model basically means small imatation of the real thing.
Don't drink and drive
Keep your sunny side up..Goodbye

Perhaps this is kosher enough to satisfy the situation. Has any one see a moyle?

 

[theBeemer]

I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.
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Mr. Turtle I have really thought about it and was wondering a serious question and hopefully you can answer it ok? Not moot the lapdog just you ok?
In the above paragraph you state A Rabbi/Jew is truly anti semitic. Even though he was around when the Zionist bunch started. was able to witness many of the horrible things they have done to other jews let alone anyone who gets in their way,
the school he taught at is older then Zionism is even the American school in Cleveland area,,,,,,how on earth can you or any one come up with a such a ridiculess statement that they are anti semitic? Do you really believe what you typed? I would think since its been proven the zionist will stop at nothing to get what they want (including sacrificeing their own) Non Zionist Jews and Nazi's will point that out..How on earth can you even think that? Anti zionist is not anti semitic.. Did you say something as crazy as that to prove your point?
In 46 years on the planet that one really is one of the most ridiculas statements my eyes have had to witness..............
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You said: ""Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?""

I replied: "If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream."

And, I also replied: "I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American... The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it."

And you shot back with: "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

What part of my answer do you feel is not an answer? You asked, I answered, I don't know how it can be any plainer than that. It gets tiresome to read your blatant lies and false accusations like this one. You state quite clearly that I did not answer, and that's a blatant lie, even with the truth staring you in the face. That makes everything else you say, everything, not to mention your thought processes, highly suspect. One has to suspect not only your honestly, but your intelligence, as well as your sanity in this discussion. And the rest of your deluded rant falls into the same category.

You state that the people involved in Kosher Certification call it a tax, yet that's a lie. The only people who call it a tax are those who don't want to pay it, for whatever reason, and say it is forced upon them to pay it, which is also a lie. You state that the symbols are hidden on the label. That's a lie. You believe The Protocols, even though they are a lie. The dual citizenship "problem" that you keep hanging your head on is outdated an longer a part of law or State Department policy, and has been outdated for quite some time. To continue to use it to bolster your beliefs is to perpetuate the lie.

According to you there are three kinds of people: those who think like you and agree with you, those who do not think like you do because they are gullible folks who have been brainwashed, and Zionists. That's pretty sad. Of course, I'm well aware that you will view this with amusement since you think I'm one of the latter two groups, which will easily let you feel good and righteous about your deluded self. And that's even sadder, because that is the mark of a closed mind.

For the love of Christ,,,how do they think it up

 

[hdxpedx]

BOUT time someone KICKED sand back at the little JIHAD!! I have a IRANIAN friend and I know he's READY TOO!!!

 

[Turtle]

Originally Posted by Turtle
I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.
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Mr. Turtle I have really thought about it and was wondering a serious question and hopefully you can answer it ok? Not moot the lapdog just you ok?

You couldn't have really thought about it. No way, no how. It is quite impossible for you to have given this any rational or coherent thought whatsoever, much less "really thought about it." To wit:

In the above paragraph you state A Rabbi/Jew is truly anti semitic.

That's a lie. How DARE you take MY words, chop them up to change the meaning, then pass it off as a quote attributed to me? Are you THAT f***in' stupid? If not, then just who the f*** do you think you are?

I choose my words very carefully, and I am very precise in my wording. You do not have the right to alter my wording, out of context, and thus alter the meaning, and then pass it off as something I said.

To be antisemitic does not mean to be against any and all people who can be thought of as Semites, as since the term was invented, and particularly in todays' society, the accepted meaning is anti-Jewish. It is a kind of pseduo-racism, except it is towards Jews. When you take that antisemitism, or the pseudo-racism, when coming from Jews, and apply it towards another group, say, Zionists, it becomes an analogy with a very different, and very specific meaning. When I say, "I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists..." the when it comes to Zionists part is crucial to the precise meaning of the analogy, and when that part is removed, the statement becomes something else entirely, and I will not stand by and idly allow you or anyone else to twist my words for their own pathetic benefit and sick little pleasures.

I may not agree with your opinions, but I do respect them. However, what you have done here reveals you to be a simpleton of the highest order, possessing of no redeeming character values whatsoever, and deserving of no respect of any kind.

Have a mediocre day.

 

[greg334]

Moot,
You get rid of the Chinchillas and now raising lap dogs in your van?

 

[theBeemer]

Originally Posted by Turtle
I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.
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Quite Clear what you Typed.....I knows some Jews like your Rabbi friend who are truly anti semitic when it comes to zionist....blah blah blah......Don't blame me on your writings...How on earth you can say that is beyond me..By the way when the Zionist killed off Jews who were Zionist and non Zionsit Jews would they be antisemitic anti zionist anti non zionist?
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Mr. Turtle no need to swear and get mad at me this how you wrote it. I didn't you did..
You said my Jewish /Rabbi friends were anti semitic I didn't change it you wrote it...Who do you think you are that your above the Jews/Rabbi's who are anti zionsit..Right here YOU said they are anti semitic did you or did you not. I don't have access to your postings..Nothing changed and their is no sick pleasure taken here......If any its on your end trying to insult and belittle me.
And really you should be able to do a better job then that
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Now answer the simple question. I will make it easyer for you
this time ok?
How on earth can YOU being a Goyim/Gentile I think you are, are you? Anyway how can you possibly even remotely say that these Jewish folks who saw the light of Zionism are anti semitic?..That is what you said Period.. Are you really that much better and smarter then the rest of us? Even better and smarter then an Old Wisdom Rabbi and other Rabbies who saw first hand how horrible and cruel Zionist can be to their own people? Let alone us Goyim? Are you smarter then the people who teach at the college to? Not just them but other Rabbies who are agaisnt Scamming Vampires them too?
Really how on earth can you know so much more then them?
How on earth can YOU say they are anti semitic?
As a matter where do you get off saying they are?
.............................Simple Questions huh?..........................
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That's a lie. How DARE you take MY words, chop them up to change the meaning, then pass it off as a quote attributed to me? Are you THAT f***in' stupid? If not, then just who the f*** do you think you are?
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I didn't chop or steal I just posted them again as you typed them...........
And no I am not that stupid as you can see I did not need to resort to the F or to resort to bulling schoolyard behavior of cussing to make my point..You should apologise to the ladies and the good folks for your horrible vocabulary..
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And who I am? I am not a pompous windbag pretending to know everything about anything. I don't back down or bow down to anyone. Id rather take a beating then do that....But really who do you think you are?................By the way you should apologise to the ladies and decent folks about your outrageous language..
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I may not agree with your opinions, but I do respect them.
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However, what you have done here reveals you to be a simpleton of the highest order, possessing of no redeeming character values whatsoever, and deserving of no respect of any kind.
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That is good insult..Now your back up to the caliber I expected.
That lap dog of yours that follows you around and insults me should take lessons or a least observe and come up with something original..................
Really isn't there anymore labels you have for me?
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Have a mediocre day.
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Actually it was quite a good day. Espicially this evening reading how someone with such intellegence as you have will use such profane language, actually believe they know more about the Jews who are anti Scamming Vampires then they do. Someone with such arrogance has the chutzpuh to say a Rabbi is anti semitic..Enjoy knowing how someone like me who you show such disdain,hate, and arrogance towards can get you so mad you have to refrain to swearing.. actually I got a good laugh out of you thank you so much...It was a good day..
.....Good Bye....Quit while your ahead ok?......your humilating yourself much more then what I can do to you,,,,,,,Go away quit
goodbye..
You got humilated by a simpleton of the highest order, possessing of no redeeming character values whatsoever, and deserving of no respect of any kind. ....Ha ha ha too funny Crawl back in the cesspool pond

 

[theBeemer]

I knows some Jews, much like your rabbi friend, who are truly antisemitic when it comes to Zionists, I know some who think the Zionists aren't going far enough. Both are valid opinions. You yanking out a few examples of the former who agree with you is not proof that you are right. Sorry. It's merely proof that there are others who agree with you. The fact is, most do not.

You said: ""Chee if Obongo gets in and has a all black cabinet disaportionate or a majority amount of blacks in the cabinet you and every one else would scream....Or you would label the screamers as anti African American?""

I replied: "If he has an all black cabinet, I seriously doubt that I'd scream."

And, I also replied: "I wouldn't label the screamers as anti African-American... The term African-American is just plain stoopid for a plethora of reasons and I refuse to use it."

And you shot back with: "Again you didn't answer..I tossed a question you with all of your poump ad arrogance could answer ..What is the diference"

What part of my answer do you feel is not an answer? You asked, I answered, I don't know how it can be any plainer than that. It gets tiresome to read your blatant lies and false accusations like this one. You state quite clearly that I did not answer, and that's a blatant lie, even with the truth staring you in the face. That makes everything else you say, everything, not to mention your thought processes, highly suspect. One has to suspect not only your honestly, but your intelligence, as well as your sanity in this discussion. And the rest of your deluded rant falls into the same category.
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You state that the people involved in Kosher Certification call it a tax, yet that's a lie.The only people who call it a tax are those who don't want to pay it, for whatever reason, and say it is forced upon them to pay it, which is also a lie.
Can anyone make any sence out of this double talk? (The only people who call it a tax are those that don't want to pay it) So they pay a tax for something that is not a tax even if they don't have it forced on them even though its not a tax that they are paying for My God where do they come up with this ???

You state that the symbols are hidden on the label. That's a lie.I didn't say the symbols were all ways hidden I said on some products like cleaning chemical,,,yes some bathroom cleaners have them very small or way at the bottom..Kosher Bathroom Cleaner ? Why does bathroom cleaner need to be certified kosher?....It is hard to fathom how gullable people are my God. So what you just quoted is lie... You believe The Protocols, even though they are a lie. Your grace I think their is more too it.. The dual citizenship "problem" that you keep hanging your head on is outdated an longer a part of law or State Department policy, and has been outdated for quite some time. To continue to use it to bolster your beliefs is to perpetuate the lie.Actually it is not a lie I proved it how many are in Bush's and Clintons cabinets.. And again a GOVERNMENT BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE NOT JUST OUR 51 St...of Isreal...
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According to you there are three kinds of people: those who think like you and agree with you, those who do not think like you do because they are gullible folks who have been brainwashed, and Zionists. That's pretty sad. Of course, I'm well aware that you will view this with amusement since you think I'm one of the latter two groups, which will easily let you feel good and righteous about your deluded self. And that's even sadder, because that is the mark of a closed mind.

Actually four thank you..You forgot to add someone who will blindly do their master bidding.....By the way how much are they paying you??? By the way what was your third????