Iran Announces Test-Firing of New Qiam Missile

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Edward Yeranian | Cairo 20 August 2010
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Iran's defense minister Ahmad Vahidi is saying Friday that Tehran has test-fired a new surface-to-surface missile called the Qiam-1. The announcement comes amid a flurry of alleged new military developments in recent days, as Iran prepares to launch its new Bushehr nuclear plant Saturday.

Iranian government TV showed the test-launch of a new surface-to-surface missile Friday, which its defense minister is calling a "new class" of missile with increased capabilities.

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Vahidi explains that the new Qiam-1 missile has many improvements over its predecessors.

He says that the Qiam-1 missile is a new class of solid-fuel missile and he claims that it is better than older missiles because it has a better guidance system and that it can be operated faster and under more varied circumstances. He also claims that the missile is capable of evading enemy interception.

Iranian TV showed the missile launch sequence at least five times from different angles from what appeared to be a desert location. Defense Minister Vahidi did not indicate when the test-firing actually took place, nor the exact range of the new missile.

The test-firing was hyped by state media, along with news about Saturday's launch of Iran's new Russian-built Bushehr nuclear reactor. Former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton
said recently that any possible Israeli attack on the plant would have to come before it was launched.

Iranian-born analyst Alex Vatanka of the Middle East Institute in Washington argues that it's impossible to verify that the Qiam-1 is a new class of missile, and that Iran's decision not to provide many details about it suggest the launch is part of a psychological war with the West.

"When you consider the fact that in terms of technical information that we have available to say that this is actually a new class of missile - this is newsworthy - we don't have that," he said. "Which means that this is really a political gesture, posturing on the part of the Iranians, which they seem to believe is necessary, because overall they believe that they're involved in a big psychological war with the West and they're saying 'look, we can play a bit of this psychological war game, too.'"

Iranian defense industry officials have announced many alleged new weapons systems in recent days, amid great fanfare on Iranian TV. These alleged developments include a new and faster speedboat, new locally-built aircraft engines, a new drone, and new shallow-water submarines.

Iranian military commanders went so far recently as to show pictures of what they were calling "mass grave plots" in which to bury U.S. soldiers, in the event of an attack on their country. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei also said during a speech Wednesday night that an attack would be countered on a variety of levels, and in different places.

Alex Vatanka thinks that the Iranians are trying to scare the West, along with many of their smaller Gulf neighbors, so that they do not participate in a possible attack on Iran.

"The Iranians have been saying it for years: anybody who is complicit in an attack on Iran in the eyes of Tehran is good to be hit," he said. "They didn't mention states by name, but they pretty much said, if you are providing a base for any American aircraft to take off and come and bomb us, your base, be it in Qatar, be it in Oman, is good for us to hit back."

Qatar, which shares a large gas field with Iran, has long tried to balance its relations with both Iran and the U.S. to which it leases the large al Udeid airbase, outside the capital Doha. Qatar's Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs, Hamad bin Jasim bin Jabir al Thani, was shown Friday on Iranian TV meeting with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
 
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layoutshooter

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I would LOVE to know the vertical capability of this one. I can't find out much on it. I still would bet that they are shooting for 200-300 vertical miles.
 

layoutshooter

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You know, I don't miss the "business" very much at all. This is one time that I do. I would REALLY like to know the altitude they are trying for.
 

OntarioVanMan

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You know, I don't miss the "business" very much at all. This is one time that I do. I would REALLY like to know the altitude they are trying for.

Old habits die hard eh???

so far this is it...

Qiam 1 is part of the new generation of the Islamic Republic’s surface to surface missiles with liquid fuel and completely designed and built domestically,” General Vahidi noted.

He explained that the missile is equipped with a smart navigation system, which decreases the possibility of it being targeted by other projectiles.

Vahidi added that the liquid-fuel missile’s launch time is low due to its smart targeting system. “It enjoys enhanced agility due to the scrapping of its fins.”

“The missile can hit targets with high precision,” the general noted.
 
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layoutshooter

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Old habits die hard eh???


No, I just need to know when I should start "hardening" my house against the EMP attack that I believe they are working towards. I was GOOD at what I did, and when I had all of the information I needed, I was seldom wrong. I don't have access any more but my "gut" is rumbling again and I have already been to the bathroom. :eek:
 

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A senior Iranian defense industries official on Saturday hailed the unique features of the country’s recently developed and tested Qiam 1 surface-to-surface missile, saying that Qiam 1 is a high velocity, radar-avoiding missile which can be fired from different types of launch pads.

“One of the most important features of the Qiam (Rising) missile is that it has no tail fins, wings and canards and this has granted it higher velocity,” Head of the Defense Ministry’s Aerospace Industries Organization General Seyed Mehdi Farahi told FNA.

The same feature has also made it possible for the Qiam missile to be “launched from various types of launchers”, the General added.

Iran’s Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi announced on Friday that the country has test-fired its latest surface-to-surface missile which enjoys unique features.

Iran’s new surface to surface missile, Qiam 1, has been successfully test-fired, Vahidi said.

Meantime, General Farahi stressed that the range of Qiam differs in accordance with its mission, meaning that the missile can hit targets in different distances according to its mission plan.

Elaborating on the other features of the missile, Farahi said that Qiam is a radar-evading missile and that the time for preparing and launching the missile has been minimized.
 

stamp11127

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Launches are nice to watch, no matter who is launching them. Going up is nice news, coming down is the important part. Just what is the accuracy of this thing? Not a word on that from what has been released.
It's one thing to lob some tin in the air, it's very impressive to smack a melon hundreds or thousands of miles down range. Especially if it is moving.
 

layoutshooter

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Don't need to hit anything or even be accurate for an EMP attack. Just reach the right altitude, 250 miles give or take one or two, and touch off a nuke over the center of the country and we are toast.
 

stamp11127

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We're already toast, we just don't know it yet. They don't have to do anything, we're destroying ourselves from within.

And if that was to happen our response would be what? More committee meetings on the hill? Anyone up there (non military) have the stones to light a few of the big ones off?

Same scenario over Israel and the answer is already known. Massive light show = glass bowl.

What has you worrying about them concentrating on EMP?
 

layoutshooter

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We're already toast, we just don't know it yet. They don't have to do anything, we're destroying ourselves from within.

And if that was to happen our response would be what? More committee meetings on the hill? Anyone up there (non military) have the stones to light a few of the big ones off?

Same scenario over Israel and the answer is already known. Massive light show = glass bowl.

What has you worrying about them concentrating on EMP?

Several so called "failed" launches by both Iran and North Korea. All failed at around 250 mile altitude. That is the altitude for an EMP attack. We were well aware of that 30 years ago. Nothing new. It would only take a small nuke. Like Iran is close to getting and so is North Korea and I would bet that they are working together. With help from "former" Soviet weapons techs. Any bets on that?
 

OntarioVanMan

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and IF they did attack us..then what for them? Other then create some death and mayhem they surely know their days would be numbered...
 

greg334

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AND??

Layout, I get this part but it would be the same as declaring war on us and attacking us and the same response.

Do they really want this or do they want to actually chip away at our national psyche by the little things like the Mosque, like the issue of holding trails in open court and Wikileaks.

To actually destroy us by any attack would leave us with resolve to fight, they know better than that. The Soviets, as you may remember was a brutal country and they thought that was the way but the Chinese were just the opposite, they have patients and just support the right groups here (Vietnam war protesters are one group) that actually caused some instability got people worried a lot.

Think about the issues with the rest of the world if an EMP would detonate here and how the rest of the world would have serious problems.

Just the financial end of things, where the markets are all linked. Even Russia and China will suffer by having some damage done to the US markets and financial centers.

I'm not worried about what could happen, I would be upset with the fact I would lose access to EO.
 

OntarioVanMan

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When you corner an animal, they tend to try and get out....the west has restricted some countries to such a degree that they feel trapped....lost their "right to self determination"....maybe in the beginning of all this if WE hadn't been so dominate and demanding these "radical" states could have been our allies instead of enemies...
 

greg334

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When you corner an animal, they tend to try and get out....the west has restricted some countries to such a degree that they feel trapped....lost their "right to self determination"....maybe in the beginning of all this if WE hadn't been so dominate and demanding these "radical" states could have been our allies instead of enemies...

OK, corner whom?

Iran, not a chance.

North Korea?

maybe but not really.
 

Turtle

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To actually destroy us by any attack would leave us with resolve to fight, they know better than that.
They don't care. It's not an issue. Allah has already preordained it all. Those extremists who feel they are on a holy jihad don't see any negative consequences at all. None.

The Soviets, as you may remember was a brutal country and they thought that was the way but the Chinese were just the opposite, they have patients and just support the right groups here (Vietnam war protesters are one group) that actually caused some instability got people worried a lot.
Do not try to equate (relatively) rational thinking with that of a holy war. In the minds of a radical Muslims, even if they all die, they still win, so long as they can take us out with them. There isn't an overabundance of suicide bombers because a lot of people are clinically depressed.

I'm not worried about what could happen, I would be upset with the fact I would lose access to EO.
Iranian defense industry officials have announced many alleged new weapons systems in recent days, amid great fanfare on Iranian TV. These alleged developments include a new and faster speedboat.

Well, that one scares me a little.
 

greg334

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I know Turtle, but if we keep talking like Chicken Little, we will destroy ourselves just worrying about it.

Yes it is a holy war, no doubt but there seems to be a lot of rational thinking on the part of the leadership of these organizations and countries just as there was with the Chinese.

Maybe I'm all wrong, sitting here at my hardened computer sitting in my shelter 20 feet below the surface with 5000 lbs of lead above me but if people keep panicking, maybe we will just lose it when something actually happens, like a snow storm.
 
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