I need a driver agreement to look over.

HHDLLC

Seasoned Expediter
I'm about to put a driver in my vehicle and would like to have a good driver contract in place. My lawyer understands the need but he has no clue on what needs to be in it. I was hoping I could look a some that others are using to make sure I'm not over looking an item.

If anyone is willing to let me see what they are using it would be very helpfull.

Email to: [email protected]

Thanks
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Why doesn't he write up a standard contract for contracting work and you go through it with him to tune it to your needs. The purpose is to limit the liabilities while providing responsibilities.

It is hard to tell you what to put into it because we don't know what your business is structured like.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
I have a good Lawyer who did ours. His name is Arron Harris from Medina, Ohio. His number is 330-591-9315 and his prices was really good. Just tell him I gave you his number.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
If the lawyer is asking you for examples or template, that is not a good sign or lacks the experience in the transportation field. . Find a good transportation attorney in your home state. Some items may be state structured depending on whether you are a sole proprietor or a corporation.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
If the lawyer is asking you for examples or template, that is not a good sign or lacks the experience in the transportation field. . Find a good transportation attorney in your home state. Some items may be state structured depending on whether you are a sole proprietor or a corporation.

I did, and even got some good points from Davekc on our new lease. The lawyer we have deals with transportation and is very good. Thanks Dave
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I sort of disagree, the lawyer's part isn't about transportation but contractor relations in the state you are in.

The contract I have was written by a lawyer who has zero transportation experience and it has to do with the labor laws of the state of Michigan and the feds. The transportation aspect of the contract has to do with the care and feeding of the vehicle and the what if's of accidents and so on.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I sort of disagree, the lawyer's part isn't about transportation but contractor relations in the state you are in.

The contract I have was written by a lawyer who has zero transportation experience and it has to do with the labor laws of the state of Michigan and the feds. The transportation aspect of the contract has to do with the care and feeding of the vehicle and the what if's of accidents and so on.

A decent transportation attorney will already be versed and experienced in labor law. Use to deal with endless numbers of them in another field outside of expediting in numerous states.
Their scope of experience will generally go beyond just accident and general liability issues.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
A decent transportation attorney will already be versed and experienced in labor law. Use to deal with endless numbers of them in another field outside of expediting in numerous states.
Their scope of experience will generally go beyond just accident and general liability issues.

True to a point. Not to be argumentative Dave but many seem to think that just because they are "transportation lawyers" they are qualified to handle contracts.

There is a need to interview the lawyer, come to them with specific needs and ask questions about how those needs are going to be fulfilled but also not just pick one out of a hat. (Dave aka Bruno gave a number out who may be a good start). I have found in another recent venture that the lawyer handling the company business didn't know squat about the basics of contractor law, he knew how to prevent carriers from getting screwed on contracts but left a loop holes in the drivers contract that you could drive a truck through (pun intended). It took me about a week to find someone who would work with this guy on tightening up the driver's contracts and did a good job, he was a labor lawyer.

Again it matters that the person looks for the right person to build the relationship with for legal protecting. It isn't as hard to become a lawyer, a lot of really dumb people have passed the bar and went into business giving bad legal advice.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
True to a point. Not to be argumentative Dave but many seem to think that just because they are "transportation lawyers" they are qualified to handle contracts.

There is a need to interview the lawyer, come to them with specific needs and ask questions about how those needs are going to be fulfilled but also not just pick one out of a hat. (Dave aka Bruno gave a number out who may be a good start). I have found in another recent venture that the lawyer handling the company business didn't know squat about the basics of contractor law, he knew how to prevent carriers from getting screwed on contracts but left a loop holes in the drivers contract that you could drive a truck through (pun intended). It took me about a week to find someone who would work with this guy on tightening up the driver's contracts and did a good job, he was a labor lawyer.

Again it matters that the person looks for the right person to build the relationship with for legal protecting. It isn't as hard to become a lawyer, a lot of really dumb people have passed the bar and went into business giving bad legal advice.

Greg'

I'm not dumb by all means and found a very good Lawyer. The Lawyer I used is very good in both Transportation laws, Business Law and Contracts. He knows his stuff as his father drove truck also.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I didn't say you were dumb by any means but what I said it is a good start for someone by using that number you gave out and I thought it was a very good thing to do.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
I didn't say you were dumb by any means but what I said it is a good start for someone by using that number you gave out and I thought it was a very good thing to do.

Okay. It just came across as I just hired some lawyer that only knows about trucking laws.
 

fortwayne

Not a Member
I have another business (co own) and while our lawyer serves us well in that business I would not use him in this business.
You need a lawyer that has experience in the field you are in and with experience in the specific nitche (labor/IC contracts) you need assistance in.
I do private investigations and bail bonds in the other biz. I would not hire a lawyer that has experience in the field but has never been in a court room.
Its about proecting your ASSest, all of it, not just some.

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