Sign up for The Wire Newsletter!

Hino 195 Winter storage/Oil change

Discussion in 'Hino Trucks' started by Greenfire, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Hi all, I am glad to of found this forum! I have a 2017 Hino 195 and a 2018 on the way. I have to store the trucks outside long term, for the winter (Dec thru March). I am in southern NY, so winters can be mild or frigid. I plan on parking the truck with a full tank of fuel with " Power Service clear diesel" and biocide. Also a battery tender.

    Questions... Should I change the engine oil before or after the winter? We put on 8,000miles during the in season. Is one "A" service adequate per year? "B" service when? What else should be done for the winter storage?

    Thank you in advance
     
  2. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
    I would just follow the guidelines in the owner's manual, and I would not use any fuel additive that mentions removing water.

    Sent from my XT1585 using EO Forums mobile app
     
  3. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    What additive do you recommend? Some say remove water and some say disperse water. This would be for the one time use.
     
  4. coalminer

    coalminer Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2012
    Messages:
    821
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Ratings:
    +415 / 1 / -0


    This is what happens when water hits molten steel, something similar happens when water in the fuel hits the end of the injector, which is why you don't want the water to get that far.

    Now myself I would be more worried about the def tank as it has a shelf life and by the time it sits all winter you might have issues. I would wonder if there is a drain on the def tank or does it have to be sucked out?


    Sent from my iPhone using EO Forums
     
  5. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Hmmm, I forgot about the DEF tank.. Draining it sounds like a good idea. Or fill it with fresh fluid from new container? At our low mileage it takes us a year to use a full tank of DEF. I wish I could find some indoor parking.
     
  6. coalminer

    coalminer Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2012
    Messages:
    821
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Ratings:
    +415 / 1 / -0
    I would think emptying it is better, since def has a fairly short shelf life, leave it as empty as you can and put fresh in as soon as you get it going again in the spring.


    Sent from my iPhone using EO Forums
     
  7. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
    Def degrades very slowly when it's cold. If it's cold in the winter where you live, then I wouldn't do anything.

    Sent from my XT1585 using EO Forums mobile app
     
  8. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
    I would not use any additives.

    Sent from my XT1585 using EO Forums mobile app
     
  9. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
    If it's going to be sitting, I'd lube up the vnt linkage with nickel antiseize.

    Sent from my XT1585 using EO Forums mobile app
     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. BigStickJr

    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,630
    Trophy Points:
    330
    Ratings:
    +1,784 / 13 / -1
    Don't be cheap, use the dime antiseize.
     
  11. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
  12. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    VNT is the turbo? Thanks for the help guys. I think I need the penny version.
     
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2017
  13. greasytshirt
    Dr Pepper Addict

    greasytshirt Moderator Staff Member Mechanic

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,084
    Trophy Points:
    200
    Ratings:
    +711 / 0 / -0
    The variable nozzle turbo controller is a servo on the bottom of the turbo. It moves a linkage that turns a plate and a bunch of vanes in the turbine housing of the turbo. If allowed to sit, you'll sometimes get some rust on the linkage. Spray the pivot points with nickel antiseize.

    Granted, this linkage is hard to see and harder to get to, so you're gonna make a mess.

    Sent from my XT1585 using EO Forums mobile app
     
  14. Kip life

    Kip life Active Expediter Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2017
    Messages:
    237
    Trophy Points:
    40
    Ratings:
    +81 / 5 / -0
    8000 miles in the season? Or did you mean 80,000?

    I do 8000 in 3vweeeks



    Sent from my SM-N900T using EO Forums mobile app
     
  15. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Ok, so I need to drain the fuel/water separator before and after the winter. I went to use the 17 truck and had ice in it. Simple enough, but do I need to re-prime afterwards? The 2017 has a clear filter cover so you can see in, while the 2018s changed the cover to black.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2018
  16. BigStickJr

    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,630
    Trophy Points:
    330
    Ratings:
    +1,784 / 13 / -1
    Talking about one service a year, and storing all winter.
    Probably service stuff. Fountains, pools, landscaping. Tent rental.
    Covering a small area.
    You can use trucks to make a living, without working yourself to death.
    Or working hard, using the truck as an auxiliary tool.
     
  17. BigStickJr

    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,630
    Trophy Points:
    330
    Ratings:
    +1,784 / 13 / -1
    Aren’t def tanks plastic?
    At -10, would it freeze, expand, and crack the tank ?
     
  18. BigStickJr

    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,630
    Trophy Points:
    330
    Ratings:
    +1,784 / 13 / -1
    My question got me curious enough to google an answer.

    Def will freeze at 11 degrees F.
    At 32.5 ratio to water they both freeze and thaw at the same rate.
    Freezing/thawing will not degrade the product.
    Per Cummins.
     
  19. Greenfire

    Greenfire New Recruit Owner/Operator

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2017
    Messages:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    The DEF is perfectly fine in the cold, doesn't freeze. Just trying to understand the fuel/water separator gizmo.

    Yeah it would be nice if these trucks could make money over the winter. The body is so customized... we are limited.
     
  20. BigStickJr

    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,630
    Trophy Points:
    330
    Ratings:
    +1,784 / 13 / -1
    If you can get by 9 month’s per year, be thankful.

    I’m limited by my body too.

    Too specialized to hang a plow ?
     
Loading...

Share This Page