Ford, UAW see opposition to contract changes

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
You'd think these guys would realize that this isn't their daddies car company or union anymore...they are lucky to be working.....but hey, the "union" mentality is still alive and well...i for one certainly won't lose any sleep when they are out of work....

Ford, UAW see opposition to contract changes

By DEE-ANN DURBIN and TOM KRISHER
AP Auto Writers
Ford, UAW see opposition to contract changes - National Business - MiamiHerald.com


DEARBORN, Mich. -- Ford Motor Co. and the United Auto Workers union, which have agreed to proposed contract changes that would lower the automaker's labor costs, are running into opposition from some workers who say they've given too much already.

Workers at the Dearborn Truck Plant outside Detroit honked horns and shouted down Bob King, the union's top Ford negotiator, Wednesday evening as King tried to speak about the proposed changes, according to Gary Walkowicz, a member of the plant's bargaining committee.

Earlier in the day, Walkowicz and six other plant leaders had signed a letter to employees urging them to vote against the agreement because it would require too many concessions and would limit workers' right to strike.

"It's time to take a stand. This is a profitable company, and they're asking for more concessions," Walkowicz said.

Ford and the UAW announced last week that they had reached an agreement to bring Ford's labor costs in line with General Motors Co. and Chrysler LLC, whose workers already approved changes to their contracts. The UAW said about 250 local union leaders from around the country voted to recommend the changes.

Workers must ratify the changes before they can take effect. Ford's 41,000 UAW members are starting to vote this week. The union has asked local leaders to wrap up voting by Nov. 2.

The changes to the union's 2007 labor agreement guarantee future work at U.S. plants and give workers a $1,000 bonus for ratifying the deal.

But the proposal also freezes entry-level wages and changes work rules to require some skilled-trade employees to do more than one job. It also bans strikes on negotiations involving increases in wages or benefits, although it would allow strikes if the company proposes lowering wages or benefits, taking products out of plants or other issues.

Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said the company won't comment during the ratification process. Ford Executive Chairman Bill Ford, when asked about opposition to the deal Wednesday, would only say he's grateful to the UAW leadership for helping the company through the last few years and for continuing to make Ford competitive.

A message seeking comment was left with the UAW.

Some UAW officials are trying to persuade workers to accept the changes. Jerry Sullivan, the president of UAW Local 600, which oversees 8,000 Ford workers at the Dearborn Truck Plant and other facilities, said he wants the proposal to pass because it includes future product commitments. He also wants workers to take the $1,000 offered by Ford instead of letting the company spend it somewhere else.

Sullivan said workers don't understand that they're not losing their right to strike over most issues. He also pointed out that Ford workers haven't gone on strike since 1976.

"Everybody gets panicky about something we haven't used in 33 years," he said.

Still, many workers consider Ford a healthier company than GM or Chrysler, which accepted federal bailout funds and went into bankruptcy earlier this year. Ford turned a $2.3 billion profit in the second quarter, buoyed by $10.1 billion in debt reductions that cut interest payments.

Some workers also are angry that CEO Alan Mulally kept a huge pay package while they were asked multiple times to make concessions. Mulally's package in 2008 was worth $17.7 million, down more than 22 percent from the prior year, according to Ford's regulatory filings.

"The CEO pay and the fact that people are angry about making concessions again, it's going to make it tough," said Mark Caruso, president of a UAW local at a Saline, Mich., parts-making factory.

But Caruso points out that the union was able to preserve benefits for retirees and get new product commitments from the company, keeping many union jobs.

"That will make it easier to sell once the membership gets the real facts," he said.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Many many people have no clue how much these union people are in denial. It is amazing that they will still buy a GM or Chrysler product, claim Chrysler is an American company and fault the decline of the industry at large on the Japanese companies.

We are still living in the past, 1978 to be exact, we have yet come around to the idea that it wasn't the fault of the consumer for the demise of the onces largest car company.

But again when your company goes into bankruptcy, not reorganize at all during that time and then go on a PR campaign to sell the same UAW made junk that got you into trouble in the first place, the public can't feel sorry for you when you don't get that profit sharing check or OT so you have money for your 4 weeks of vacation.

The one thing that seems to be talked about here in this state of denial is the Right to Work ballot proposal appearing in 2010 again, maybe it will pass this time and the UAW will be brought down where they should be.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I would be surprised to see that pass, Greg, the UAW and other unions have a strangle hold on Michigan politics.
 

greg334

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I think that many are getting sick of it, it is like detroit the people have finally gotten fed up with the politics and want to see in some form or another voting on candidates for the council by district. They still are dumbfounded by the idea because they are trying to have two candidates city wide and the rest in districts.

The real issue is the 1.5 billion part of the deficit which can be wiped out by cutting back on some of these teacher's perks that are frivolous at best. They add up to 1.8 billion so cutting them may give us a surplus.
 

chefdennis

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with barry working to restore the socilaism that are the unions and with "card Check" looking to be forced in place, i don't think there is much of a chance of any "new" right to work laws coming down...too bad to, it would be a blessing for the small businesses and those that really want to work....
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I have no idea about that. I don't live in the City limits of Detroit. I hope you guys up there can straighten that mess up. It costs us a fortune.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Personally i think Dave Bing is trying to do the right things, but the local PTB and fighting him tooth and nail to maintain the status quo....or change as little as possible as to not interupt their own "enterprises"......
 

greg334

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There are things he can do and refuse to do and there are things that he does do and shouldn't do.

Why hasn't he stepped up and said "I am going to reduce the cost to the city with my staff"? He should but some of his staff make almost as much as the former Kawmeee cronies, which is actually sad.

He can also pick on the council and reduce their costs. The car leases, the staffing and the other 'perks' need to be addressed, as much as the bus line and other areas.

How about privatizing the water department, want to make a real reduction in cost, get it out of the hands of the city and make it a regionally owned private company.

The thing to remember is until you get someone in there who has the right experience and the right attitude with the right people behind them, the city will never change.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Your points are well taken and you certainly have a better grasp of whats goin on up there since you live in the area then me living down 75...but from what trickles down to us, it looks like he is trying to do things that would help, but he is having to fight the established politicians.....but you are right, it has to be a person with experience that can gain the trust of the people with genuine compassion for whats going on and for what needs to be done....not like the "suit" in the WH.....
 
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