Flat rate???

cannedmeat27 · Mar 25, 2014

They will lose all br units if they ever force us onto flat rate.

zorry · Mar 25, 2014

The way I read it, all BR units just keep doing what you're doing. No change.

Deville · Mar 25, 2014

Well the higher up's went and did it. Let the games begin.

cannedmeat27 · Mar 25, 2014

I just got off the phone with my coordinator. I was told the flat rate will only affect the surface fleet. It will not change the percentage contracts that the wg fleet have.

cannedmeat27 · Mar 25, 2014

zorry said:
The way I read it, all BR units just keep doing what you're doing. No change.

My coordinator said the same thing. I was told it only affects the surface fleet.

zorry · Mar 25, 2014

Surface guys just have to put a pencil to it and see how it compares to last years numbers to see how good or bad it really is.

If the truck takes a hit, the % drivers take a hit.
Will it be harder to keep better drivers ?

layoutshooter · Mar 25, 2014

zorry said:
Joe, go get your broker's license. I want to put 3 $printers on with you as soon as you develop that freight base.

Nope! IF I get out of expediting I am NOT going into ANY part of the freight/transportation business.

jjoerger · Mar 25, 2014

It looks like we will have to keep our deadhead down to about 18% or less and really watch where we go. No freight dead zones. No long deadhead to pick up. A nickel more for WG? I am envisioning my acceptance rate going down.
We sure will miss getting that really good paying run once in awhile.
Thinking about changing my name to Ben Dover.

layoutshooter · Mar 25, 2014

zorry said:
Surface guys just have to put a pencil to it and see how it compares to last years numbers to see how good or bad it really is.

If the truck takes a hit, the % drivers take a hit.
Will it be harder to keep better drivers ?

Only if you want drivers that speak 'Merican.

zorry · Mar 25, 2014

jjoerger said:
It looks like we will have to keep our deadhead down to about 18% or less and really watch where we go. No freight dead zones. No long deadhead to pick up. A nickel more for WG? I am envisioning my acceptance rate going down.
We sure will miss getting that really good paying run once in awhile.
Thinking about changing my name to Ben Dover.

The .75 plus fsc is so you'll take long deadheads. You gonna goof on their plan ?

jamom123 · Mar 25, 2014

Well i'm solo in a S/T, it won't take me long to figure out if this is going to hurt me. I have a feeling it's not going to be beneficial.

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zorry · Mar 25, 2014

Since they redid our contracts, don't most have a year plus before they have to experience the new program ?

NTHEWIND · Mar 25, 2014

Just to give some FYI and food for thought. In 1986 my wife and I leased on with a United Van Lines Agent to be on a mileage fleet and haul a special trailer with an overhead crane. Our pay back then was $1.05 ALL DISPATCHED miles plus a handling fee. The best I remember we averaged $1.35-$1.45 back then.

LDB · Mar 25, 2014

If a shipment’s loaded and unloaded miles add up to less than $175, then you will get $175.

If a shipment’s loaded and unloaded miles add up to more than $175, then you will get $250.

If a shipment’s loaded and unloaded miles add up to more than $250, than you will get that amount.

OK, if the total adds up to $174.83 you get $175.
Why not make it simpler? You get the greater of $250 or the actual total based on miles and fsc.

That will solve even more of their 30-100 customers per day rejection because it's pretty likely they're getting turned down because they don't pay enough.

aimeejos · Mar 25, 2014

Zorry- If you stay on the percentage plan until your contract expires you take the run as offered- there is no negotiating at all. I think the issues fedex will face is refusal of loads due to high deadhead milage, refusal of loads going into deadmans zones and refusal of short milage loads.

zorry · Mar 25, 2014

aimeejos said:
Zorry- If you stay on the percentage plan until your contract expires you take the run as offered- there is no negotiating at all. I think the issues fedex will face is refusal of loads due to high deadhead milage, refusal of loads going into deadmans zones and refusal of short milage loads.

Ok, I missed that. If bad load, and you say NO, FedEx hasn't gained anything. They lose the load, where now, for an extra $100 or so it may have gotten covered.

This will be interesting......

Daffyduck528 · Mar 25, 2014

aimeejos said:
Zorry- If you stay on the percentage plan until your contract expires you take the run as offered- there is no negotiating at all. I think the issues fedex will face is refusal of loads due to high deadhead milage, refusal of loads going into deadmans zones and refusal of short milage loads.

This is exactly how we determined to take a load when we were flat rate with expediter services. It's also what we plan to do starting in June.

interstategar · Mar 25, 2014

Yes its a fact starting in June. Your owner can print you out the new rates for all units. It doesn't include White Glove units.

jamom123 · Mar 25, 2014

They say there having to tell between 30 and 100 customers a day they can't haul their load because everyone said it didn't pay enough. What makes them think this is going to make it better, the pay will be even worse.

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interstategar · Mar 25, 2014

Not sure about the extra $100. They reduce the minimum pay from 150 to 115-135. New B units get .80/mi instead of .85. Luckily I just replace my unit this Jan so I will get .85/mi loaded. The DHPU is still only .15 per mile. The change is you get paid for all DHPU miles. They say they will pay tolls for all authorized miles. I'm still going to limit how far I will go for a pick up and the loaded mile ratio. It doesn't pay to wear out my van for .15/mi. I think in the long run Fedex will be better off, the owners and drivers maybe some of the time. I hope the company gives us back the info if they have covered more loads with this change.