Finally Did It!!!!
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Sorry...Its good to see the clarification...Sometimes you guys make Canada a place with Gestapo on the corners and being told what to do every second...a nasty, vile place...
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
I hate to say it, but Canada is "out-republicing" the US. They are fiscally stronger than us. They are becoming socially conservative; whereas, we are becoming more liberal. Yet, where they do spend socially, the money is accounted for. They are becoming industrially stronger than us, per capita. They don't tolerate illegal immigration. Canada spends less per student, yet yields a higher return upon graduation.
Yes, Canada's taxes are too high; but the US is catching up (or have passed Canada). The US still has the best medical system in the world, but is quickly headed for the gutter if costs cannot be reigned in, due to the non-payers. And, Canada would never have that surplus if they spent the same percentage of GDP that the US does on defense and foreign spending.
But overall, I agree with your assumption. It's not so much that Canada is on par with the US; it's that the US is sinking below Canada's level. We have 10 times as many people as Canada, while we have many more on the welfare rolls - including 15 million illegal aliens. So, saying Canada is a social democracy, while the US is not, is crazy. I'm thinking Canada has learned a lot from their "socialist-lite" history, and is learning that it doesn't work well. France is another country doing so.
Conservatism may not be en-vogue, but it's becoming apparent to many around the world that it is the prudent ideology. Canada's predicament isn't that bad because they learned this BEFORE the recession hit; while the US is learning this the hard way... after the fact... one state, or one federal bureaucracy at a time.
I've said before that Canada is moving more to the center one step at a time. They are learning/learnt that you can't do everything for everybody all the time...without hurting the economic and social base....
Keep in mind Canada is just a youngster yet...
Whereas some Americans see Canada prospering and They say I want that! Not realizing what is involved and know the consequences.
Keep in mind Canada is just a youngster yet...
Whereas some Americans see Canada prospering and They say I want that! Not realizing what is involved and know the consequences.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Bingo, my friend! Now you know why I'm a conservative. It would be nice to pay for everyone's ills; but ultimately, it brings everyone down, thus, creating more ills. And so on, and so on, etc., etc...
Not ALL is rosie in Canada either. While they are moving more to the center in some areas they are moving very left in others. The anti-hunting movement has shut down several hunting season in Canada, in spite of all the scientific evidence that those seasons had either no ill effects or were needed to control excess populations. One example is the Spring Bear hunt in Ontario. GONE!! Now the bears are over populating, the locals have lost a HUGE source of income, mainly from Americans who would travel up to hunt that season. Duck hunting has been so badly regulated that the numbers that hunt duck in Canada are down by almost 70% from 20 years ago. That is taking a toll on conservation efforts since hunting dollars pay for most work done in Canada just as in the US. The burden to do habitat work has fallen on US waterfowl hunters and groups like Ducks Unlimited. Canadians are not holding up their end on that work. You still have draconeon gun registration laws BUT are at least working to fix that.
I had been hearing about movements in the Western provinces wanting to break away and form a new country with several US states, Like, Alaska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas. Know anything about that movement? I would be interested in that!! Imagine, the entire NW North American FREE!!!! Just be allowed to live.
I do remember talking with people in the Yukon and they had little good to say about Ottawa or most of Eastern Canada. Maybe I just find "Like Minds"!!! It is a gift!!
I had been hearing about movements in the Western provinces wanting to break away and form a new country with several US states, Like, Alaska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Montana and the Dakotas. Know anything about that movement? I would be interested in that!! Imagine, the entire NW North American FREE!!!! Just be allowed to live.
I do remember talking with people in the Yukon and they had little good to say about Ottawa or most of Eastern Canada. Maybe I just find "Like Minds"!!! It is a gift!!
Maybe I just find "Like Minds"!!! It is a gift!!
Ummm yeah....and that is all it is....*LOL*
birds of a feather.
misery loves company?
Ummm yeah....and that is all it is....*LOL*
birds of a feather.
misery loves company?
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
But they talk funny and they smell like bacon and raw fish.....
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
I was going to go where Layout did, and talk about the gun regulations in Canada. Not only that, but it wasn't until recently that Canada allowed FOX news to be broadcast there. CBC is about the only thing pertaining to national and international news, and it's as slanted as NPR and BBC.
What I'm interested in knowing is how the Canadian school system survives without the corruption of local school boards/teacher unions that we have here. It cost us almost $4000 to send our kid to a private school. The country's average is $8000/student in public school; with the top being $12,000 in DC. If you do a little research, you'll find that the most money/student is spent in the inner cities, where the least return is. If you follow the money, you'll most likely find the most corruption. They had a fund raiser for toilet paper in the Detroit school system a few years ago. Something is wrong with that picture.
What I'm interested in knowing is how the Canadian school system survives without the corruption of local school boards/teacher unions that we have here. It cost us almost $4000 to send our kid to a private school. The country's average is $8000/student in public school; with the top being $12,000 in DC. If you do a little research, you'll find that the most money/student is spent in the inner cities, where the least return is. If you follow the money, you'll most likely find the most corruption. They had a fund raiser for toilet paper in the Detroit school system a few years ago. Something is wrong with that picture.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
They have one every year, not just for toilet paper either - paper, pencils, markers, etc.. for the teachers.
If you want to see a school system that is really messed up because of the Union/school board, Detroit Public Schools is the place to look. Instead of the parents allowing the state or even a private management firm come in and fix things, they are concern with their VOTE and their SKOOLS.
Actually, the political slant of Fox had nothing to do with it. It all goes back to when CNN wanted to come into Canada, they promised to have frequent Canadian content and to participate as a journalistic entity in this country. They didn't.....ever. We get the same CNN feed as someone in Ohio. That ****ed a lot of people off and when Fox came calling everyone remembered the CNN deal. The fact that FOX is "the other side" to CNN's viewpoint was actually helpful as it was felt that there needed to be some balance against CNN. Politically, we have conservatives in power who are the kinda folks Fox likes.
The only reason we have an "approval" process for media things up here is so that we actually do get some Canadian news. You guy are great neighbors but we do like to hear about our own stuff, the process just keeps it from being drowned out.
AND.......any Canadian with a brain is quite aware the CBC is a leftie outlet. The first thing the right does when we elect them is cut their funding....the first thing the left does is increase it. Guess that explains their sympathies!