Everybody knows at least 1 person like this....
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Disability the new welfare
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The more "popcorn ducks" there are the easier they are to kill. It is all part of what the government is after. Dependent people are easy to control. Total control is the goal.
Suds43
Seasoned Expediter
I am on disability and yes, I receive medicare. I have had 2 cardiac-bypass surgery's and numerous stent implants not only in my heart but also for circulation in my legs. I worked my *** off all of my life, paid into the system. Isn't that why we paid into it so IF something happened we would have something coming in. I would GLADLY trade places with anyone who thinks it's 'welfare'!!!!!! I would go back driving in a heartbeat, but that's not going to happen because of the restrictions I have. Also, Medicare is NOT FREE!! I pay a co-pay just everyone else does and have a prescription drug program, which I pay for, no free ride like everyone thinks.
With that being said, I agree somewhat with this article. I personally know of one person who claims a disability because he's allergic (supposedly) to perfume. This guy is retired from a very good paying job. Is drawing a very comfortable retirement. BUT, he found a Dr. in Buffalo NY AND a Lawyer to pushed his claim thru. It cost him $!0,000 to the Dr for a statement that he was disabled. THESE are the ones that the gov't. needs to go after. The scamming Dr.'s and lawyer's who are making big cash to get people on disability. but in todays society that is not going to happen. Certain doctor's and alot of scum bag lawyers have found a way to make their own living off the gov't.
With that being said, I agree somewhat with this article. I personally know of one person who claims a disability because he's allergic (supposedly) to perfume. This guy is retired from a very good paying job. Is drawing a very comfortable retirement. BUT, he found a Dr. in Buffalo NY AND a Lawyer to pushed his claim thru. It cost him $!0,000 to the Dr for a statement that he was disabled. THESE are the ones that the gov't. needs to go after. The scamming Dr.'s and lawyer's who are making big cash to get people on disability. but in todays society that is not going to happen. Certain doctor's and alot of scum bag lawyers have found a way to make their own living off the gov't.
No...your NOT what this is a about...its about people stubbing there toe and and wanting US as taxpayers to support there lazy butts...my neighbor is on full SS disability.. she is single and has the nicest yard around...always out there doing something....she can obviously be a landscaper..then the buddys wife who says she has a mental condition to keep her from working.. only problem with her she is a flaming bi#ch.....what gets me is there so lazy the sell themselves out for less then $800 p/m..who can live on that??
Back pain, neck pain or mental problems.
The biggest problem is there are SO MANY fakes sucking up SO MUCH of the resource there is not really enough left to help those who may REALLY need it.
There in lies the rub with government programs. They are easily abused. That is EXACTLY why they should have never been put there in the first place. On top of that SS was not meant to be used as a disability program. It was never funded for that and now the entire system is toast.
The biggest problem is there are SO MANY fakes sucking up SO MUCH of the resource there is not really enough left to help those who may REALLY need it.
There in lies the rub with government programs. They are easily abused. That is EXACTLY why they should have never been put there in the first place. On top of that SS was not meant to be used as a disability program. It was never funded for that and now the entire system is toast.
The money you get on disability is not enough to really have a decent life. But some people need it. It's not always the fact that a person can't physically work. Some people have chronic pain, or medical problems that leave them in limbo. Kind of like what I have going on right now. I have a few good days every month where I get my hopes up and think I can drive again. Then I do 3 hours of house work and working my bad leg/knee out and end up suffering for 2 days after that. Just because someone does some yard work doesn't mean that their bodies can perform in a commercial setting.
I haven't been able to bend down, stoop, or climb stairs properly for almost 16 months now. I have to do five complicated maneuvers just to get in and out if a cargo van/car. It takes me twice as long to take a shower and to get ready. I can't jump, run, sprint, or anything. My good leg is starting to wear down because it does all of the work for my bad leg. If I go into a rigurous work setting I'm going to accelerate the demise of what good parts I have left on my body. I get chest pains from where the clots were in my lungs, I get winded sometimes. What would you want disabled people to do? Just because you see me lifting a fifty pound box of bottled water four times a month when I feel good enough to do it, that doesn't mean I can unload an entire fiftythree foot trailer of the stuff.
Fortunately for me I had a pretty sizeable amount of savings in the bank when I got hurt. I can sit here for another 2 yaers on my own dime if I have to. But I've been waiting months for a full recovery and it doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. I've been working in various jobs since I was 18 years old. I've paid thousands of dollars into the system. I think I'm entitled to get what was promised me in the event of a disability. I have a confirmed disability that is a real disability listed in the manual. It's not like trying to prove a mental problem. I have ultrasounds showing vein damage that leads to Post Thrombotic Syndrome and life long pain and reduced quality of life. There's no denying it.
I also see what Deville wrote. I used to think people with back pain were just making it up. Let me tell you I've experienced a few days of back pain due to my inability to bend. When you lift boxes and perform work duties where you are supposed to bend with your legs and can't, you do damage to your back. Back pain can be even more debilitating than the pain that I have in my legs. It can make even a short trip in a car unbearable. The body is very intricate and delicate. One small hiccup can destroy you for life. No one will ever understand what a disabled person has to go through until it happens to them, and I don't with that on anyone. But if one of you were to become disabled you'd be amazed at how fast your attitude will change towards your fellow disabled Americans.
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Well back pain is real. As for the fakes I don't fault them. It takes 2 years and a lot of tooth and nail fighting to get the benefits. You pay into the system and then you have to jump through hoops to get the small check. They don't make it easy to get. Even those who game the system have to put in the man hours to get their claims approved. So why blame them for getting in due to government incompetence. There are also people with legitimate claims who are denied and not awarded disability benefits. The system is flawed. In my current state I'd need a job where I work substantially slower than the rest of the people. That really hurts me. I used to go into companies and outperform other shifts. I used to be able to work like a raging bull. I pride myself on working hard. I have had countless supervisors throughout the years come down from the office and shake my hand and tell me that I am one of their best workers. I have worked temporary jobs where they have shaken my hand and welcomed me back anytime. I think back on those days and then look at how I'd have to work in my current physical state and it makes me feel bad. Sometimes life just sneaks up on a feller.
It is called fraud when someone "games" the system. ALL who do so should be arrested and taken to court. They are stealing from all of us. There is no excuse for it.
My wife has had been doing psychiatric transcriptions for the past 8 yrs. I was let go from my job after being involved in an accident that completely destroyed my hip. I was not able to walk or barely stand, let alone work, and could not get short-term disability until I had my hip fixed. If it was not for my wife's business, we would have been out in the streets. I have worked since high school and paid into the system all my life, but am not allowed help when needed. We are now in Massachusetts, because we can have affordable insurance to get my hip fixed, and I can get back to work. My point is, I have been typing for my wife for the past couple of years, and seeing all the people who are collecting SSDI, who can't speak English, have just come here from another country, and most admit to problems with drugs and alcohol. Many people do have mental problems, but far more have learned how to work the system. As long as they see a mental health doctor on a continued basis, which is also covered by the government, they recieve their benefits. Please tell me why, if most jobs have random drug tests, then why should these people be allowed to collect free money, which a lot have never contributed to the system, and still be able to drugs without a care in the world? Just my two cents!!!!!
It is common in this area for the "mental Patients" to see the free doctor, get their free drugs and then sell them on the street. This is EXACTLY why the government has NO business in the welfare, disability or health care game. ALL of these programs are being defrauding on a massive scale. NONE have lived up to the hype that got them passed and little is being done to control the fraud. They don't really care. They have zero incentive to clean it up. It's not their money and no one holds them responsible for the problems they have created. Just wait till Obama Care is fully kicked in. Keep in mind, the government now will have access to your medical records. If you don't find that scary there is something dreadfully wrong with you.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Unfortunately, what you're been paying in has never been put into any kind of account for you, drawing interest. It went out the next month after it was taken from you to pay someone else whose claim may or may not have been legit.
Likewise, what you're receiving came from someone who earned it last month, and who loses it without it being put into an account for when they need it. Insurance works like this, however insurance is voluntary.
That said, I hope you get all you think you have coming to you and more. I hope you and everybody else figure out how to take every penny you can get, honestly or otherwise. The sooner our economy crashes, the sooner the possibility of genuine freedom exists.
I have no use for thieves, no matter who they are stealing from. Even less when they are stealing it from me. That is EXACTLY what disability frauds are doing, STEALING my hard earned money.
Suds43
Seasoned Expediter
"Back pain, Neck pain, mental disorder..............hmmmmmmmmm THAT must be why I was approved for SSI.........have been told I'm a pain in the a**, a pain in the neck, and that I'm just not right in the head! LMAO!!!! And those comments come from the people that like me!!! LOL
Good bad or indifferent, the reality is that folks on disabilty take out much more than they ever put in. Part of the reason it is running in the red.
Medicare and medicaid are in the same boat. The average person puts in slightly above 100k in a life time...maybe. The average cost that is spent per person is close to 400k. That's a problem as we keep borrowing the difference.
Medicare and medicaid are in the same boat. The average person puts in slightly above 100k in a life time...maybe. The average cost that is spent per person is close to 400k. That's a problem as we keep borrowing the difference.
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I wonder what percentage of the amount that is borrowed is due to the fraud and waste that are in the system? Socialism/Marxism leads to debt. The more of these programs we add, the deeper in the hole we go.
Oh, I know that. These programs are nothing more than MASSIVE boondogels. They just arrested a bunch of people in the Detroit area who were scamming millions out of the federal college loan programs.
When the government gets involved, we get it stuck in our ears. The government is a total joke.
11 metro Detroiters busted in student-loan crime ring | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Which I have in Spades, even driving hurts my back nowadays. Going fishing I can stand for an hour or so before I have to sit down for a while. Hell just bringing in big fish hurts like hell. But I traded in the 18 wheels for 4 wheels and its helped some.
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