Chicago Deadlier Place Than Afghanistan

Brisco

Expert Expediter
Interesting.....Very Interesting.......

Why has the MSM not been covering this as of late?????

Seems like this should be covered day in and day out in our news feeds considering Obawas Home Town is now experiencing a "WAR" within it's own city limits......

Chicago crime: More people shot dead in Chicago than killed on duty in Afghanistan | Mail Online

Interesting Stats here from the article:

BY NUMBERS: CHICAGO SHOOTINGS

240 People shot dead in Chicago this year

144 U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan this year

5,000 People shot dead in Chicago since 2001

2,000 Troops killed in Afghanistan since 2001


7 People shot dead in Chicago last weekend

35 People injured in shootings in Chicago last weekend

35 Percentage increase in homicides in Chicago since last year

4 Times more the number of homicides in Chicago compared to New York.

Clearly an Election Year......Isn't it....................
 

davekc

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The MSM isn't going to talk about that. We as taxpayers are spending billions for programs there and the problems are getting worse. It is clearly a case of showing that throwing money at these issues doesn't work.
After billions spent, you still have the same number of poor, same amount of guns and increased violence.
 

chefdennis

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That article is has to be BS... it is illegal for the citizens that live in Chicago to own guns...sooo..how can people be getting killed with guns in Chicago???? I mean they have VERY strict Gun Control Laws.....:rolleyes:
 

Brisco

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The MSM isn't going to talk about that. We as taxpayers are spending billions for programs there and the problems are getting worse. It is clearly a case of showing that throwing money at these issues doesn't work.
After billions spent, you still have the same number of poor, same amount of guns and increased violence.

Detroit Michigan.....................'Nuff Said..........:p
 

Turtle

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Of course, if they compared civilians in Chicago to civilians in Afghanistan, they'd have a very different story to write. The most conservative estimates since the war began in 2001 put Afghan civilian deaths at a little over 110,000.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Of course, if they compared civilians in Chicago to civilians in Afghanistan, they'd have a very different story to write. The most conservative estimates since the war began in 2001 put Afghan civilian deaths at a little over 110,000.

But that does not suit the purpose of the writer of the story...:rolleyes:
 

Turtle

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Exactly. The author could have just as easily compared the number of Chicago deaths to the number of road-kill Canadian Snow Geese. Would have had the same effect.
 

Brisco

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Of course, if they compared civilians in Chicago to civilians in Afghanistan, they'd have a very different story to write. The most conservative estimates since the war began in 2001 put Afghan civilian deaths at a little over 110,000.

That's a Little High......

Just glancing over these figures here.....

Civilian casualties in the War in Afghanistan (2001

.......I'm coming up with about 1/3rd of that 110,000 figure. I'll get the calculator out later and do the math. If you don't beat me to it......

But....Just as is happening in Chicago.....Americans Killing Americans during a "War" on American Soil.....the vast majority of "Civilian" Deaths in Afghanistan are being cause by Insurgents from their own country, or neighboring countrys,
 

LDB

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Now that Chicago has followed the lead of the nation and elected a questionable candidate to run things I'm sure it will turn things around in no time. Yeah. Right.
 

skyraider

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what they dont say is: gang related, drug related, accidental death, premeditated murder, and so on, u never get the complete picture, its all about the money in the end, follow the money trail and u get the picture........................:rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

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That's a Little High......

Just glancing over these figures here.....

Civilian casualties in the War in Afghanistan (2001

.......I'm coming up with about 1/3rd of that 110,000 figure. I'll get the calculator out later and do the math. If you don't beat me to it......

But....Just as is happening in Chicago.....Americans Killing Americans during a "War" on American Soil.....the vast majority of "Civilian" Deaths in Afghanistan are being cause by Insurgents from their own country, or neighboring countrys,

but then again, many of them numbers could be illegals?....it does not say anything about Americans killing Americans. Just saying....
 

muttly

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A cop from Chicago called into a radio show. He said police are pretty much powerless to do much about all these killings. They are pretty much reduced to reactive policing,meaning responding to calls only. He mentioned that there were too many liability issues with being proactive in preventing these crimes and most officers are too worried about being sued. They aren't allowed to stop and frisk in Chicago like they do in New York.
 

OntarioVanMan

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A cop from Chicago called into a radio show. He said police are pretty much powerless to do much about all these killings. They are pretty much reduced to reactive policing,meaning responding to calls only. He mentioned that there were too many liability issues with being proactive in preventing these crimes and most officers are too worried about being sued. They aren't allowed to stop and frisk in Chicago like they do in New York.
racial profiling accusations I would assume?
 

chefdennis

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ou can compare the numbers to anything you want in any way you want...the facts is, it is illegal fo the citizens of Chicago to own guns....So if the majority of the people are law abiding and following the strict gun control laws of the city, who is using the guns and how are they getting them and who is doing the killing and who are they killing??

It seems that "gun control laws" just don't work.....
 

OntarioVanMan

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ou can compare the numbers to anything you want in any way you want...the facts is, it is illegal fo the citizens of Chicago to own guns....So if the majority of the people are law abiding and following the strict gun control laws of the city, who is using the guns and how are they getting them and who is doing the killing and who are they killing??

It seems that "gun control laws" just don't work.....

gee whiz Dennis you keep trying to throw in control....I'll bet most of these murders are gang and drug related....they'd have guns anyhow....the question would be, How many of these murders are clean cut, hardworking, honest Americans/legal residents?
 

chefdennis

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gee whiz Dennis you keep trying to throw in control....I'll bet most of these murders are gang and drug related....they'd have guns anyhow....the question would be, How many of these murders are clean cut, hardworking, honest Americans/legal residents?

No the question is way have the gun controlsto the degree they do to turn the law abiding American citizens of the city into criminals if they have a gun for their protection...we all know that the killing are done for the most part by the gang members and those that aren't law abiding..so punish the law abiding for nothing.....and limit their ability to defend themselves...The whole thing is about gun control....give the law abiding their right to own guns within the city and watch the number of gun related deaths go down....
 

OntarioVanMan

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No the question is way have the gun controlsto the degree they do to turn the law abiding American citizens of the city into criminals if they have a gun for their protection...we all know that the killing are done for the most part by the gang members and those that aren't law abiding..so punish the law abiding for nothing.....and limit their ability to defend themselves...The whole thing is about gun control....give the law abiding their right to own guns within the city and watch the number of gun related deaths go down....

we are debating something we know nothing about for sure....I'd have to have a breakdown of who is killing who....with Chicago's illegal population....I'd say most are gang related and who cares if they kill each other....just go in at sun up and drag out the bodies and clear the arena....seems that what the cops have done....
 
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