barrys healthcare plan is Falling apart

[chefdennis]

No one has said the healthcare/health insurance industry doesn't need a fix, but it certainly doesn't need what barry has in mind and it looks like barrys plan is FAILING....looks like the WH will be giving up on the "public option" or the government run healthcare plan anf the Death panels will be gone...now to work on more of the B/S like the government "Parent Consultaion" plan for new parents, coverage for abortions, coverage for illegals, and a few other details.....

White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

Aug 16 10:50 AM US/Eastern
By PHILIP ELLIOTT
Associated Press Writer
White House appears ready to drop 'public option'

WASHINGTON (AP) - Apparently ready to abandon the idea, President Barack Obama's health secretary said Sunday a government alternative to private health insurance is "not the essential element" of the administration's health care overhaul.

The White House indicated it could jettison the contentious public option and settle on insurance cooperatives as an acceptable alternative, a move embraced by some Republicans lawmakers who have strongly opposed the administration's approach so far

"I'm always ready to go back to the bargaining table," Hatch said. "Heck, I've probably helped pass more bipartisan health care legislation than anybody I know."

That legislation, however, seemed likely to strike end-of-life counseling sessions. Former Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin has called the session "death panels," a label that has drawn rebuke from her fellow Republicans as well as Democrats.

Even so, Sebelius said the proposal was likely to be dropped from the final bill.

"We wanted to make sure doctors were reimbursed for that very important consultation if family members chose to make it, and instead it's been turned into this scare tactic and probably will be off the table," she said. "And that's not good news for the American public and not good news for family members."

Sebelius spoke on CNN's "State of the Union" and ABC's "This Week." Shelby and Conrad appeared on "Fox News Sunday." Hatch was interviewed on "This Week."

LOL, this is the cornerstone of barrys socialist plan..if he could run the medical/healthcare of the people, he could then take over more and more under the heading of "healthcare"...he is failing to do so....thank you the American people for standing up and being heard...keep telling barry no, its not something he is use to or hears enough, but he needs to hear more of it...

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I told ya from the beginning I had more faith in the American people....it may take them awhile to get steamed up...but you must remember their illusion is being tore down piece by piece...it isn't easy to admit when you were fooled...

 

[chefdennis]

August 16, 2009

Daschle: 50-50 chances for reform

@ 11:25 am by Eric Zimmermann
http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/08/16/daschle-50-50-chances-for-reform/

The general media consensus has been that after the healthcare dust settles, some kind of reform will likely pass.

But former Senate Majority Leader and healthcare wonk Tom Daschle isn't so sure.

Appearing on Meet the Press this morning, Daschle said the chances of reform are no better than "50-50."

(Daschle, of course, was President Obama's first choice for Health and Human Services Secretary but bowed out after a flury of tax problems.)

Daschle's comments hint at a strategic question underlying the healthcare debate. The White House seems intent on declaring victory when all this is over, but how much are they willing to water down a reform bill just to get SOMETHING passed?

barrys plan is failing, which means he is failing...thank you American citizens for making your voices heard...now keep it up..make barry a forgotten mistake that last only 1 term

 

[layoutshooter]

With any luck there will be NO Federal action on health care, that is a State and or local issue. Health care is NOT a Federal Responsibilty. In all reality it is a PERSONAL responsibility.

 

[letzrockexpress]

I told you six months ago this wasn't gonna happen. Read my fonts:

IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN....

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I told you six months ago this wasn't gonna happen. Read my fonts:

IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN....

I said that too...but here we have months of weird, off the wall the sky is falling the nazis are coming bull flying around...*LOL*

 

[Oilerman1957]

Mark my words, IT WILL HAPPEN BEFORE NOV, dont say i didnt warn ya

 

[layoutshooter]

It most likely would have happened if a WHOLE lotta people had not got good and riled up. It is NOT yet over. Watch for another push and a whole lot of back door moves. Anything gets in it will lead to more. It is NOT a Government function. PEROID!!

 

[Oilerman1957]

Its not going to matter if its a government function or not, the time has come and it will happen

 

[layoutshooter]

How many are you willing to jail to get it? If it has to be done by FORCE then "it's time" has not yet come. I will NEVER give into it. I lived on the British system for 5 years, I have seen the reality. I WILL NOT support it. Just reference the post about the letters I sent to Dingellbery, Carl (marx) Levin and Debbie Stamthemnow. I stand firm on my beliefs. I will fight first.

 

[greg334]

It won't happen because the backlash of an plan that has nothing in it will instill more fear into people who already are scared.

The people who get medicare right now know that it will take serious cuts in the program to balance it out and they are not willing to deal with it. Obama and his minions have scared the cr*p out of people with the Pill comment and other comments eluding to end of life issues, then when they shifted the blame on insurance companies as a deflection from the real issues, people took notice of it.

The worst thing that Obama did was to push the health care plan at this time, when unemployment and job loses are still may be on the rise or just reducing a bit. He has other problems right now that are brewing, one is what happens in October when the fiscal year is up? the other is what happens with this tight credit market and business's who are going to borrow to continue to work.

 

[layoutshooter]

We don't have anywhere near the problems that Barry and the press like to moan on about. The few problems we DO have can be better sloved outside of the government and for FAR less public money. The plans that were floated were nothing more that power grabs. The Government trying to take over a HUGE part of the economy.

 

[dieseldiva]

I said that too...but here we have months of weird, off the wall the sky is falling the nazis are coming bull flying around...*LOL*

Call it whatever you want, it's obviously working. Imagine what would have happened if we'd all laid down and let it pass?

BTW, all of those comparisons that the common person is making to how they see things, they all have merit in one fashion or another......you shouldn't blow them off so quickly, they do this not just for their own good, but for the good of all.....and that includes you.

 

[chefdennis]

i actually believe we will see "Regulation" changes for the insurance industry...and changes to how the hospitals and drs do business...but not the reform that barry and the dems want...they know that the people aren't going to put up with this plan as it sits..the government run option will not fly and neither will the "consultations for the elderly every 5 yrs or more if they are ill...just ain't gin to happen....

now a collective of companies that are willing to to expose themselves to more loss by taking on "pre-existing" clients might make it through, but i personally can't see why any company would expose themselves to that....this is paramont to a guy buying a wrecked car, then calling an auto insurance company and getting a policy to pay for the repairs....lol yea right....

coverage for illegals and for abortion...that will be gone...but the biggest thing that barry wanted is history...there will not be a "public' or government run option.....

for me personally, i am loving seeing barry get his pet project kicked around to the point that it will be nothing more then a fraction of what he wanted....and that will continue the fall of barry...the failure of his socialist ideals and policies......yeap i am loving every moment of it....

But....even as this "limited" change to the healthcare and medical insurance industries comes about... look for the socialist barry to continue to try and make his socialist facist ideals and policies come about through his czars...by regulation that will happen with no oversite by congress ir the people....