barry wants more of your money....

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
and it will be mandatory that you/or employer go along with his plan......
Its not a tax...it will be saved, you will get it back....wait, isn't that what SS is!? LOL, and they want to back them with OUR fed BONDS!! LOL, the fed is having trouble selling them, they have turned to buying them themselves..and now they feel we should be buying them........lol..... oh and they won't touch this money, it will go into a "LOCKBOX" and be backed by the Feds Bonds, and it will be safe....wasn't SS suppose to go into a "lockbox!?!?!"" and be safe and be there when you retired.... lol.....I can't wait to retire now, for good this time and i can then live on the IOU's from the Gov!!!!


http://www.pionline.com/article/20090608/REG/906089987

Administration explores new bond as option for retirement accounts

Automatic IRAs could rely on government bonds as default investments for employees

By Mark Bruno
Source: Pensions & Investments
Date: June 8, 2009
J. Mark Iwry, deputy assistant secretary for retirement and health policy at the Treasury Department, says administration officials are exploring some “conservative” options for investing the assets of 78 million Americans he estimates could be automatically enrolled in a “universal” workplace retirement system.

Officials in the Obama administration are moving quickly to develop the investment infrastructure behind the president’s proposal for mandatory automatic enrollment in individual retirement accounts, which could be supported by the creation of Treasury-issued retirement bonds.

J. Mark Iwry, deputy assistant secretary for retirement and health policy at the Department of the Treasury, said that administration officials are exploring some “conservative” options for investing the assets of 78 million Americans that he estimates could be automatically enrolled in this “universal” workplace retirement system.

He said that officials have discussed the possibility of making a low-risk life-cycle or target date fund the default investment option for these auto-IRAs, which would be mandatory for employers if they don’t offer a retirement plan to their workers.

Building block

But there is also a chance that they could rely on a new form of bond — an “R bond” — as the basic building block for the auto-IRA, Mr. Iwry said in addressing reporters at the Treasury Department in Washington last week.

Administration officials are discussing the exact details of these R bonds, such as their interest rates, maturities and minimums, he noted. These bonds ideally would provide individuals with a source of secure, steady returns that would protect their initial investments.

There are two reasons in particular that R bonds could be an attractive default investment option for auto-IRAs, Mr. Iwry outlined.

For one, many of the individuals who would be automatically enrolled in these accounts could be people who had never saved for retirement, he noted. And if their auto-IRA assets are invested in a vehicle that could decline in value or at least fluctuate frequently, these workers may be discouraged from continuing to save, and could choose to opt out of the plan.

Using R bonds as the cornerstone for these accounts, however, could eliminate this volatility issue.

The bonds would also address a second potential problem in getting the auto-IRA program off the ground, Mr. Iwry explained.

Many of the auto-IRA accounts will be fairly small at first, a factor that could dissuade financial services providers — such as mutual fund companies and investment advisers — from wanting to manage these assets.

R bonds, Mr. Iwry said, could serve as the “training wheels” that would allow workers’ auto-IRAs to grow to the point where they would be more attractive to the financial services community. Essentially, these bonds would serve as the bridge between the public and private sectors in the auto-IRA program, he added.

Once workers established more substantial balances, then they could “graduate” to something more appropriate for a long-term retirement investment, such as a target date or life-cycle fund.

Bipartisan support

The administration, which included an auto-IRA provision in its 2010 budget, has gained some bipartisan support for the proposal, Mr. Iwry added. However, as more specific details of the program’s features come out — such as this initial investment infrastructure — opposition could well unfold.

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., for one, said last week that she’s concerned any such mandatory retirement proposal “would only lower choices for workers and reduce employers’ flexibility.”

Meanwhile, Sen. Robert Casey Jr., D-Pa., a member of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, said that he needed more specific information before he could officially weigh in on the auto-IRA proposal.

Mark Bruno is a reporter at InvestmentNews, a sister publication of Pensions & Investments
 

Poorboy

Expert Expediter
I Don't Need or Want any Government Setting Any Things Up For Me!! Far as I'm Concerned They are Too Much In My Buisness as it is!! :mad:
 

Scuba

Veteran Expediter
If this goes through the money will be lost. What happens to the money that the gov is “safe guarding” for your future If you die before you get it all back? What if you want your money back now can you get it or do you have to wait for a specific date you can you access it when you want to? This is nothing more than an increase in ss tax nothing more. It is ss by another name. And all of this by the guy that promised that he wouldn’t tax the poor yea right. Should everyone be saving well yes they should. But if you can just barely make it on your current pay can you afford to have more money taken from you pay. I wonder what out founding fathers would say if they were here I am willing to bet they would be ashamed of what their country has become. Someday I hope my grand children will learn about a once great country called America.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
After listening to Barney frank on Orielly tonight (no choice), it was clear to me that this administration and congress is messing things up and we will have a serious depression within my short lifetime that we will never recover from.
 
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