2k to 3000mi a weak lease

[Brisco]

Or lampshades .... or probably a whole host of other things .....


"Normal" ...... "palletized" .... freight ?

Dude, you are seriously funny ..... why don't you edu-ma-cate us all here on exactly what "normal palletized freight" is ......

... this oughta be good ....
Not really ... but you might need to - if you think that 10,000 and 10,001 are the same thing .... in the eyes of the DOT and the law/regs ....

And while you are it, you might wanna consider a quick little remedial on reading comprehension ......


Good grief ..... ya just can't make up a statement like that .... have you been practicing or what ?

I mean, seriously .... think about what you just said .....

What exactly do you think that that "W" means in GVWR ?


No need to - I already have - and know much of what it says ... and even more importantly: I can actually comprehend the English language, in both written and spoken forms ......

I also happen to know the difference between 10,000 and 10,001 .... (it is exactly 1 ..... no more, no less .....)

Now, I will admit that there is a whole lot of nothing in both those numbers .... but you don't have to let that confusitate ya - here follow me on this:

0 = nothing

and

1 = something

Now when ya have a figure that looks like this:

001

that is clearly more than one which looks like this:

000

Is this making any sense to you - or do you still think that they are the same ?


Well, Bupkus .... if'n you kinda find 'em .... then I say quote 'em and post 'em ..... otherwise, you just might wanna just stick a cork in yer pie hole ...

My mistake in replying to you was that I attempted to quote your words to clarify the issue - clearly, I should have known better ...... and being a little sloppy in my sentence construction ......

I should have also pointed out that even under 10K if you are hauling Hazmat then you become a CMV and subject to logging and scaling.


Funny ..... I know some folks who drive cargo vans who actually hold Class A's .....


Yeah .... so ?

How did you "learn" it .... by using the Vulcan mind-meld with Billy-Bob or Goober down at the local truck stop ?

Just in case this is "new news" to ya, Mankind has actually been conveying and passing along knowledge via written communication (like that which appears in books) for a very, very long time now ..... unlike using the truckstop to pass along knowledge, which is only a fairly recent invention ....


Is that the one where they use trucks to haul something called freight ?

Oooo ooooo ..... please, please Mr. Big Real-World Trucker .... tell us all more !

Especially about those Dodge 1 ton Cummins Duallys ..... my '05 Dodge 3500 SLT (CTD, 4WD, Quad Cab, 6 Spd, 8' Bed, Big Horn Package) is only SRW .... and I wanna hear more about those really, really big trucks .... you know - the ones with the extra two wheels .... that can haul so much more .....

Oh, wait ..... isn't it true that the tow rating on the SRW is actually a little higher than the dually ?

Well, never mind then I guess ....

Hahaha......

RLENT responding to Brisco:

I love it..............

 

[WestSide]

Does any one know of company I can lease with? And run 2k, 3 thousand miles a weak on average. I have a 06 Cube van with 16ft box, Gvw 10000, payload 2500.

The short answer is....no.

 

[yayashas]

What if you have your own authority and look for your own loads is it posible?

 

[Turtle]

What if you have your own authority and look for your own loads is it posible?

Anything's possible. But frankly if you have to ask that question then it's not very probable. If it were that easy then everybody would have their own authority and look for their own loads, but you have to know the industry and know where expedited freight comes from, and then know how to get it. It's not easy. You can't just go to [noparse]www.primochoiceexpeditedloads.com/[/noparse] and find emergency freight posted for easy pickins. Emergency freight goes out on private load boards, e-mails and phone calls, because it's emergency freight and needs to be covered right now.

But it's possible.

 

[RLENT]

RLENT responding to Brisco:

Brisco (County Jr.) .......

Not even close there really .....

But ....... you might want to look at my original post to you - which contained absolutely no rancor or derision - and consider how you responded to that ..... and then see if it applies personally ......

 

[Crazynuff]

Does any one know of company I can lease with? And run 2k, 3 thousand miles a weak on average. I have a 06 Cube van with 16ft box, Gvw 10000, payload 2500.

Is that a former Penske single axle cube van ? Those are the cube vans mostly made with a 10,000 lb. GVWR . You should have done your homework BEFORE you bought the van .

 

[Crazynuff]

You don't "get it", do ya?

No Scales and No Logging is for anything under 10K GVWR.

So you say your cube van has a 10K GVWR, and after all your "empty/dry" weight is added up, you say you can haul 2500lbs.

Then you give your measurements above, 15ft 1, 7ft 4 blah blah, and then spout off 6 pallets. Sorry, hate to tell you, but I've never seen 6 pallets weighing in at 3-400 lbs a piece before, of which is the weight they have to average to fit in your "cube". In my years of shipping YEARS ago, pallet weights were in the 500-800-1000 lb range, depending what was on them. That's why most carriers require a "2 pallet area" AND the ability to carry weights up to "2000-2500lbs".

Plus, the truck you have is built on a light duty 3500 chassis. Probably 60-70% of the carrying capacity is already used up for the box alone. Those trucks really were not meant for, nor designed to be used, in a "commercial capacity". They were designed to be used to haul light weight stuff. IE- Grandmas 40 year old couch and a couple of her coffee tables, and so on. Don't believe me, go load 6 pallets weighing in at 6-700 lbs each, drive it across town, and then come back here and tell us how the trip went.

Read the board, go back years and years, to try to get an idea at exactly what capacity these Cargo Vans/Cube Trucks are used in/for, OK.

You need to clean your reading glasses . He weighed the van "Yes I had it weighed with me and full gas tank at 7360lb, extra 140 for my stuff and I still have 2500lb for payload. " . So much for your theory "Plus, the truck you have is built on a light duty 3500 chassis. Probably 60-70% of the carrying capacity is already used up for the box alone. "
You obviously know little about expediting . Dispatchers are aware of the load capacities of 10,000 lb. GVWR vehicles and dispatch them accordingly .

 

[Brisco]

You need to clean your reading glasses . He weighed the van "Yes I had it weighed with me and full gas tank at 7360lb, extra 140 for my stuff and I still have 2500lb for payload. " . So much for your theory "Plus, the truck you have is built on a light duty 3500 chassis. Probably 60-70% of the carrying capacity is already used up for the box alone. "
You obviously know little about expediting . Dispatchers are aware of the load capacities of 10,000 lb. GVWR vehicles and dispatch them accordingly .

Don't need glasses, 20/20 vision.

Although I haven't given "expediting" a try, I feel I have a good grasp on the industry itself. I just don't get why someone would invest in a 16ft box truck to run 2500lbs or less "across the country" for less than a buck a mile when they could do the same thing with just a regular old cargo can. But again, that's Expediting for ya. Not that's there's anything wrong with that though.....

IMO, if you're going to run with a 16ft box, why not put it on a 4500-5500 chassis with a sleeper, stay under 26K, have the ability to carry those 6-8K lb loads, and put yourself up there in the "C-D" unit pay rate?? Makes more sense to me, $$$ that is.

Yaya......you did not put your "Location" in your profile. Are you in or near a major populated area?? A large city?? (Chicago-Dallas/Ft Worth-Los Angeles-Seattle???) If so, that truck could easily bring in $1,000 a week or so for ya. Just give a couple of the local "Major" courier companies a call and see if they have room for another truck. If so, that truck could earn 60-65% commission on tickets that are billed out at $40-$50-$60 a pop.

Let's say you sign that truck on to a company here in the DFW area. You can easily move 5-10-15 pallets across town every day, not all at the same time of course, for 65% of $40 per pallet. (standard minimum fee for most companies here) That's $26 per pallet. Let's say you only work half the day and only do 5 pallets, you've put $130 in your pocket that day, minus maybe $30-$40 or so in fuel. OK, now let's say you put in a full 10 hour day (8am-6pm) and you're able to run 15 pallets that day, you've made possibly $390 for the day, minus maybe $100 for a full tank of fuel. (depends on price/gallons/miles/MPG/etc)

Big plus on this is you work Mon-Fri, eat at your dinner table every night, sleep in your own bed every night, have the chance at playing kissy-poo with the wife every night, AND....make TWICE as much money a year as these guys running all over the country in CV's and small box trucks away from home for weeks and months at a time.

Just trying to add a little positive outlook/encouragement to this thread to maybe help Yaya out in his quest to put that "Box Truck" to work, OK. Not dissing Expediting, I'm still intrigued with the industry, just still trying to grasp why you guys run at the rates you do and at the way of life you live. (the sitting, the low rates, etc)

I'm done with this thread........Points made were very clear with a little common sense added.

 

[yayashas]

Is that a former Penske single axle cube van ? Those are the cube vans mostly made with a 10,000 lb. GVWR . You should have done your homework BEFORE you bought the van .

Yes it is former Penske Cube Van. Only Im adding self build sleaper to it so after that the box will be about 12ft 6in. The reason not going with bigger is cost of truck, maintenance more expensive, loging, scales.

 

[Crazynuff]

Yes it is former Penske Cube Van. Only Im adding self build sleaper to it so after that the box will be about 12ft 6in. The reason not going with bigger is cost of truck, maintenance more expensive, loging, scales.

Don't get too elaborate with the sleeper since you don't have to log . You will have to log if you ever haul hazmat but few CV's do . If you don't have the endorsement you won't be asked to anyway .

 

[yayashas]

Don't get too elaborate with the sleeper since you don't have to log . You will have to log if you ever haul hazmat but few CV's do . If you don't have the endorsement you won't be asked to anyway .

No i dont have it maybe down the road. If I can stay busy with regular loads I will be happy without hazmat, unless the pay is much more for it.

 

[guido4475]

Well keep in mind its for Cube van no scales no login. The box is 15' 1"ft so up to 6 palets. Door width 7' 4" door height 5' 9". More load options compare to CV. or sprinter.

Please forgive me for sounding so negative here, but I am wondering how many times you may get pulled over in the future after going by a scale house because the DOT officer does not know you are a under 10,000 gvw vehicle.Most cubes are usually over that,so it may be hard for them to know the difference unless you paint 2 ft tall letters on the side of the box saying "10,000 GVW".

Again,please forgive me for raining on youre parade here, but if this was such a hot way to make money in this business, wouldn't everyone be doing it?And,by the way,most common pallets are 45x48.So given that side by side on the narrow side is 90", how are you going to get them to sit side by side in a truck under 90" wide to begin with?

Where do we draw the limit here on how much freight should be the limit for a cargo van/sprinter and the minumum for a straight truck? It seems like there are quite a few people who want to cram a c/v full of freight, more than it may be designed for,and that may be one of the things that is going to get c/v's regulated....eventually.Let a straight truck do the job it was designed for,and a van the job it was designed for.

 

[Crazynuff]

Please forgive me for sounding so negative here, but I am wondering how many times you may get pulled over in the future after going by a scale house because the DOT officer does not know you are a under 10,000 gvw vehicle.Most cubes are usually over that,so it may be hard for them to know the difference unless you paint 2 ft tall letters on the side of the box saying "10,000 GVW".

Again,please forgive me for raining on youre parade here, but if this was such a hot way to make money in this business, wouldn't everyone be doing it?And,by the way,most common pallets are 45x48.So given that side by side on the narrow side is 90", how are you going to get them to sit side by side in a truck under 90" wide to begin with?

Where do we draw the limit here on how much freight should be the limit for a cargo van/sprinter and the minumum for a straight truck? It seems like there are quite a few people who want to cram a c/v full of freight, more than it may be designed for,and that may be one of the things that is going to get c/v's regulated....eventually.Let a straight truck do the job it was designed for,and a van the job it was designed for.

The cube van that is mentioned in this thread is a former Penske rental unit . I'm sure most DOT officers will recognize it for what it is and having a 10,000 lb. GVWR .
I'm sure he doesn't plan on regularly filling the floor space and is just considering that space as offering more load opportunities .
I think C unit contractors would be very unhappy to have a minimum weight limit . They have gotten some well paying very light loads when they were closer to the shipper than an available c/v.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Please forgive me for sounding so negative here, but I am wondering how many times you may get pulled over in the future after going by a scale house because the DOT officer does not know you are a under 10,000 gvw vehicle.Most cubes are usually over that,so it may be hard for them to know the difference unless you paint 2 ft tall letters on the side of the box saying "10,000 GVW".

Again,please forgive me for raining on youre parade here, but if this was such a hot way to make money in this business, wouldn't everyone be doing it?And,by the way,most common pallets are 45x48.So given that side by side on the narrow side is 90", how are you going to get them to sit side by side in a truck under 90" wide to begin with?

Where do we draw the limit here on how much freight should be the limit for a cargo van/sprinter and the minumum for a straight truck? It seems like there are quite a few people who want to cram a c/v full of freight, more than it may be designed for,and that may be one of the things that is going to get c/v's regulated....eventually.Let a straight truck do the job it was designed for,and a van the job it was designed for.

I think CV'ers suffer from deficiency syndrome and need therapy.... remembering as a child...."mine is bigger then yours" game..*LOL*

 

[guido4475]

The cube van that is mentioned in this thread is a former Penske rental unit . I'm sure most DOT officers will recognize it for what it is and having a 10,000 lb. GVWR .
I'm sure he doesn't plan on regularly filling the floor space and is just considering that space as offering more load opportunities .
I think C unit contractors would be very unhappy to have a minimum weight limit . They have gotten some well paying very light loads when they were closer to the shipper than an available c/v.

Not all Penske cube vans are under 10.000 gvw.I have seen quite a few way over that, as well, yellow or white.

Let straights run enough of those c/v loads at c/v pay and eventually they will be in the poorhouse.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

And just because "someone" puts in air suspension doesn't mean they can take 2500 LBs when they've stated thier limit is 1950 Lbs....

 

[guido4475]

And just because "someone" puts in air suspension doesn't mean they can take 2500 LBs when they've stated thier limit is 1950 Lbs....

Wait a minute there.I have not went over my stated limit only by 50# since I put the air -ride on the van.I keep impeccable records of every load I take, including every BOL for the last 10 years.I am checking my records right now.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Was I talking to you? Boy.....

 

[guido4475]

I installed the air-ride on May 25th of this year.Since then, I have only hauled one load over my weight limit of 1,950#, and that was 2,195# on Sep. 19th for 275 miles.I remember that load, because it was supposed to be alot lighter,but I took it because it was mainly flat-roads to the consignee.I installed the Air-ride mainly to get a less harsh ride on the van, and it has made a huge difference on the ride and stability,not to make a straight truck out of it, as you are in inferring here.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I installed the air-ride on May 25th of this year.Since then, I have only hauled one load over my weight limit of 1,950#, and that was 2,195# on Sep. 19th for 275 miles.I remember that load, because it was supposed to be alot lighter,but I took it because it was mainly flat-roads to the consignee.I installed the Air-ride mainly to get a less harsh ride on the van, and it has made a huge difference on the ride and stability,not to make a straight truck out of it, as you are in inferring here.

My post I made NO reference to you at all....only the guilty would feel the need to answer...*LOL*...