The Tea Party Strikes Again.

Pilgrim

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He would probably do better starting as a candidate for the House or Senate. If a Republican gets elected as the next POTUS, Carson would be prime for a cabinet position. Of course there are other ways he could be an extremely influential advocate of conservative causes and not even bother with elective office, which seems like the road he's most likely to take.
 

RLENT

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The objective is to rid the party, as much as possible, of establishment type, big government, French Republicans.
French ?

LOL ... I don't think so ...

An alternative title for your thread might have been:

"Primary Pogrom: Teavangelicals manage to oust 2nd highest ranking Republican in Congress ... who just happens to be the ONLY Jewish Republican member of Congress ..."

Anytime conservatives can eliminate one at the ballot box, it bodes well for them.
You seem to be assuming that it was "conservatives" that got it done ...

Ahhh ... that might be "assignment of cause by delusion" ...

You are aware that Virginia is an "open primary" state right ?

The "conservatives" just might have had a little help from others (independents, and those from across the aisle ... ;)) that wanted to see him gone:

Cantor defeated in primary

Considering your apparently fanatical support of Israel, I would have figured you would have been just crushed:

'Numb, speechless, sad', Israel supporters grieve Cantor's loss

But a lack of real awareness might preclude that ...
 
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RLENT

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You were supposed to wait a day before "raining on the parade". :cool:
LOL ... I've been seeing those Viagra ads on TV a lot lately ... you know: the ones where they say "Contact your doctor if your erection lasts more than four hours" ...

Didn't want anyone to hurt themselves due any uncontrollable bouts of self-inflicted priapism ... ;)
 
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Pilgrim

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I think people are fed up with both sides. Tea Party is stronger than what some people think.
Another opinion about Cantor's defeat, and how the national Tea Party didn't play a role in it, but instead it was the smaller grass-roots conservative groups:

Economics professor Dave Brat crushed House Majority Leader Eric Cantor in the Republican primary Tuesday night, in a campaign that was mostly about Cantor's supporting amnesty for 11 million illegal aliens.This marks the first time a U.S. House majority leader has ever lost a primary election.
His crushing defeat reinforces a central point: Whenever the voters know an election is about immigration, they will always vote against more immigration -- especially amnesty...


In fact, however, the tea party had nothing to do with Brat's victory. Only the small, local tea party groups stand for anything anymore, but they're as different from the media-recognized "tea party" as lay Catholics are from the Catholic bishops.

National tea party groups did not contribute dime one to Brat. Not Freedom Works, not Club for Growth, not the Tea Party Express, not Tea Party Patriots. They were too busy denouncing Sen. Mitch McConnell -- who has consistently voted against amnesty...

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2014/06/11/cantor-loses-by-11-million-voters-n1850611/page/full
 

RLENT

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Another opinion about Cantor's defeat, and how the national Tea Party didn't play a role in it, but instead it was the smaller grass-roots conservative groups:
LOL ... yeah, no kiddin' ?

Tom Donahue, the head of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, told Bloomberg TV that the Tea Party’s role in the race was exaggerated. "The Tea Party had nothing to do with this," he said. "They didn’t put any money in. They didn’t have any people there. It was sort of an attractive professor in a very, very conservative district in Virginia. And everybody was surprised."

And it ain't only the "conservatives" that are celebrating:

Democrats Rejoice Cantor's Loss - Business Insider
 

RLENT

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All this poster seems to do is rain & gloom IMHO. It seems impossibe for some to be positive.
Mr. Bundy,

You've got me all wrong ... I am quite positive on this one ... schadenfreude being what it is and all ...

Went to a tea party rally a few years back with Ray Stevens, it was a blast!
Sorta like Beach Blanket Bingo ... only with AR's and Gadsden Flags, right ?


I voted against Reagan twice fot Governor and for him twice for President.
You get a cookie ...

Run Ben Carson !!! :)
Run Ben Run ... :rolleyes:
 

aristotle

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Those voting Tuesday in Virginia's 7th District primary must have developed a palpable disgust for Cantor. It was an anti-Establishment vote. A textbook example of grassroots groundswell against incumbency. To his credit, Dave Brat did a lot of things correctly. Having basically no money, his message won the day. Still, I cannot help but believe the images of immigrant refugees flooding across our Southern border played a pivotal role in Brat's win. Brat decried Cantor's embrace of "amnesty." Fair or not, Cantor is seen as amenable to working out a deal with Obama on immigration reform. This issue could reach a boiling point among conservatives.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, unites grassroots conservatives more than the prospect of an invasion by illegal aliens. It is a visceral fear. It trumps abortion, taxes, social welfare programs. It trumps everything because it plays to fear. Fear is a more powerful motivation than hope, sadly.
 

layoutshooter

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The immigration problem is EASILY fixed, IF the anti-American's in congress and the White House would quit trying to buy votes. One side looking for more dependents, the other to flood the labor market with cheap, unskilled labor.

Step one, the most simple step, control the border. This step really has little to do with immigration reform and everything to do with the security if the Nation. It is the PRIMARY duty of the federal government, defending the borders.

Step two, more difficult, establish solid, enforceable requirements for entrance into the country to include health screening, education levels, numbers of immigrants etc.

Step three, even more difficult and most emotional, the deportation of ALL those who entered this country illegally, proving they have little regard for our laws or Constitution.

Immigration is important to the United States, the influx of new ideas and fresh approaches can be a wonderful addition. So can the adding of those who want to become part of our experiment, known as the United States, and add their flavor to the stew.

There is NO place here for those who flaunt our laws and Constitution and seek only to demand that we accommodate THEM.
 

layoutshooter

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Interesting take on Cantor's defeat.

[h=1]Cantor didn't need to move right. He needed to get real.[/h]
"But one way to look at Cantor's humiliation might be as an indictment of the culture of incumbency itself, and of the dysfunctional way in which a lot of Washington politicians get used to communicating, or don't."

http://news.yahoo.com/cantor-didn-t-need-to-move-right--he-needed-to-get-real-092136587.html
 

Pilgrim

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Those voting Tuesday in Virginia's 7th District primary must have developed a palpable disgust for Cantor. It was an anti-Establishment vote. A textbook example of grassroots groundswell against incumbency. To his credit, Dave Brat did a lot of things correctly. Having basically no money, his message won the day.
Facts are beginning to emerge that support the above reasoning, not only among the constituents but also among Cantor's peers in Washington. Arrogance, complacency and a self-centered approach of doing his job all contributed to his downfall. There are a lot of other incumbents just like him that are ripe to be tossed out if only decent challengers will come forward.
In Virginia a couple of months ago, several residents of Cantor's district groused that they were going to support Brat because they did not think Cantor was doing his job as a Virginia congressman. Others no longer trusted him.
Cantor and his staff both lost the trust of conservatives and constituents. They broke promises, made bad deals, and left many feeling very, very betrayed.
Much of it was because of Cantor's hubris and the arrogance of his top staffers. He could not be touched and he could not be defeated. He knew it and they knew it.

Why Cantor lost | Fox News
 

RLENT

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Some more hot poop (with video) on this political earthquake from the good folks over Happy Nice Time People:

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JON STEWART AMAZED & STUNNED BY ERIC CANTOR’S AMAZING STUNNING LOSS (VIDEO)

by Dok Zoom on June 12, 2014 at 10:02 am in TV
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For once, Jon Stewart said Wednesday, a news story lives up to the hype on cable news: Eric Cantor’s surprise loss to an unknown tea party Brat really was pretty spectacular. After all, Cantor was the 4th most powerful Republican in Washington, right after "Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, and an AR-15- that fires baby eagles dressed like Jesus." And so we get this postmortem of an election result that nobody saw coming, least of all the House Majority Leader and "future millionaire lobbyist" himself. And who is this hot new economics professor, David Brat? What new ideas does he bring? Oh. A whooooooole bunch of Jesus-talk, eh? Fine, fine, so Cantor’s not as Chosen as he thought.

(Article - with video - continues at link below)
Jon Stewart Amazed & Stunned By Eric Cantor's Amazing Stunning Loss (Video) - Happy Nice Time People
 

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It's a real shame that more people are not afraid to vote out incumbents. The greatest threat to our freedom is the idea, regardless of party, of the career politician. This country was based on the notion that there should not be a ruling class, that the rule of government should come from the everyday citizen and control of the government by the same.

There should have never been a "Dingle" in one office for nearly 100 years. We should not have ruling families, like the Bushes or Kennedys.

Our laws should be passed only by those who have to abide by them, not by a select few who, for the most part, are owned by those who pay to get them elected.
 

muttly

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Some more hot poop (with video) on this political earthquake from the good folks over Happy Nice Time People:


stewart-daily3.jpg


Jon Stewart Amazed & Stunned By Eric Cantor's Amazing Stunning Loss (Video) - Happy Nice Time People
You got it wrong again Jon. You are too liberal, just like Cantor. And you aren't a political expert either. Linsey Graham had five other opponents in his primary that split his opposition vote. He only got 59 percent for a long time incumbent senator with a lot of money to spend. Soft support and not an overwhelming victory.
 
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muttly

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French ?

LOL ... I don't think so ...

An alternative title for your thread might have been:

"Primary Pogrom: Teavangelicals manage to oust 2nd highest ranking Republican in Congress ... who just happens to be the ONLY Jewish Republican member of Congress ..."


You seem to be assuming that it was "conservatives" that got it done ...

Ahhh ... that might be "assignment of cause by delusion" ...

You are aware that Virginia is an "open primary" state right ?

The "conservatives" just might have had a little help from others (independents, and those from across the aisle ... ;)) that wanted to see him gone:

Cantor defeated in primary

Considering your apparently fanatical support of Israel, I would have figured you would have been just crushed:

'Numb, speechless, sad', Israel supporters grieve Cantor's loss

But a lack of real awareness might preclude that ...
I'm not a fanatical supporter of Israel. I even forgot his was Jewish . It's not something I'm obsessed with either,unlike some. Please do a search and see how many threads I started about Israel? Don't recall ever starting one, and if I did, the number would probably be on one hand. BTW I hope some are not crushed that we have a free market constitutional conservative to take Cantor's place. If they have a problem with that, too bad so sad. They will just have deal with it and say a prayer. Hehe.
 

RLENT

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Tea Party Moron:

OKLAHOMA NOT OK
9:45 AM JUNE 12, 2014

HERE IS YOUR FUN NEW OKLAHOMA GOP CANDIDATE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MURDER THE GAYS WITH ROCKS


by SNIPY

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Have you guys heard about our new favorite and by "favorite" we mean WHAT THE ****, DUDE state legislature candidate? Meet Scott Esk, a Republican running for office in Oklahoma. Scott would be just your run-of-the-mill semi-ginger who is hella mad about his receding hairline except for this one little standout fact: he's pretty cool with stoning the gays. As in literally stoning the gays. As in to death. How is Scott Esk even possible?
The GOP candidate responded to a post on Pope Francis saying "who am I to judge?" on homosexuality by posting numerous Old Testament quotations prescribing capital punishment for LGBT people.

Another commenter asked, "So just to be clear, you think we should execute homosexuals (presumably by stoning)?"

"I think we would be totally in the right to do it," Esk said. "That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I'm largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss."​

We'll circle back to whether or not our Mr. Esk can be considered a libertarian, but first we are obliged to point out that stoning people to death actually goes against some parts of almost everything that isn't complete religious nuttery.

Now, you might be thinking "hey, who among us has not corked off for a few brief moments on Facebook about how we want to murder the gays with actual rocks?" but we are also obliged to inform you that Esk really dug in on this whole stoning thing, standing his ground as his Facebook acquaintances were like "dude, really? Stoning? With rocks? Furreal?"

We're kinda sad that the linked PDF is a fuzzy nightmare, but if you go and squint at it you can see that after Esk's original discussion about the stoning, he went and checked in with a friend. (We have transcribed this from the original fuzzy.)
Esk: Question for you, my religious friend.
Friend: Well, I'm not that religious, but OK
Esk: Would you be for putting homosexuals to death, as it was commanded in the OT?
Friend: No, because we're under grace, not under the law. Why? Who's advocating that?
Esk: Well, I put in a good word for it being worthy of death in NT times from Romans 1.
Friend: Put in a good word where?
Esk: Somebody's fb page.

[...]

Friend: We're under grace now, and nowhere in the NT are we commanded to use the power of government to force the laws of God on people beyond the protection of liberty and property.
Esk: Well, I don't ever say anything like God hates :censoredsign:s, and I'm against the military being used to promote the NWO but I'm not for dead soldiers either. That would be a big misrepresentation.
Friend: But if you way you don't have a problem with putting them to death for being :censoredsign:s, that's out there, bro.
Esk: Do you have a prob with them being put to death in Ancient Israel?
Friend: We're not ancient Israel.​

And you thought arguing with YOUR high school friends on Facebook was bad. At least they haven't actually called for the horribly slow and painful death of gays. Hopefully.

We said we were going to circle back to that whole libertarian thing, and we are not going to let you down! See, you might think that it is kinda not so libertarian to advocate stoning people to death based on one flavor of SkyGodism, but Esk has got that all sorted. See, he wouldn't impose the stoning on a federal level, so people could have the freedom to move out of GayDeathStoneVille if they felt otherwise about murdering the gays.
If it helps any, I consider it a violation of federalism to deal with such things on a national level, and different states will have different was on the matter. I would hope that libertarians who don't think perversion should be punished in any way between consenting adults would be open-minded and look at the different results between a state that ignores it, and 1 that punishes it several. And within a state, cities and communities may well have different policies, and I cheer that. That way, people can decide for themselves whether they want to live in a particular community based in part on how things like this are dealt with.​

Um, no, actually, that does not help any at all, because now all you're saying is that it is cool if the nation becomes a patchwork quilt of regulations about whether to stone people to death. Generally, we'd like to presume that most people are anti-stoning, but we also don't really just want to leave that up to chance or to Scott Esk, so we're OK with some good old-fashioned government tyranny that tells people YOU CANNOT STONE GAY PEOPLE TO DEATH FOR ****'S SAKE. Jesus.

[Raw Story/Moore Monthly]
HERE IS YOUR FUN NEW OKLAHOMA GOP CANDIDATE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MURDER THE GAYS WITH ROCKS
 

RLENT

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You got it wrong again Jon. You are too liberal, just like Cantor. And you aren't a political expert either. Linsey Graham had five other opponents in his primary that split his opposition vote.
Riiiight ...

So ... if he had only one challenger, Ms. "Linsey" would have only won with 59% ... to what ... 41% ?

He only got 59 percent for a long time incumbent senator with a lot of money to spend. Soft support and not an overwhelming victory.
Do you even think about what it is you've written before you hit that "Submit Reply" button ?
 

muttly

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Riiiight ...

So ... if he had only one challenger, Ms. "Linsey" would have only won with 59% ... to what ... 41% ?


Do you even think about what it is you've written before you hit that "Submit Reply" button ?
Yes, do you?
 

muttly

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Yes, do you?
Graham probably still would have won. Given his large spending advantage definitely helps. 59 percent isn't great for a long time incumbent . If the opposition vote would have coalesced and focused on one opposition candidate, it could have been a lot closer. I disagree with Stewart that it is some resounding victory for him. He should be, at the very least , in the upper seventies and higher for a republican primary. Especially for someone with plenty of money to spend, been there a long time, and doing such a great job.
 

Pilgrim

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Let's keep in mind that Jon Stewart and his writers use a healthy dose of half-truths and outright lies to construct the content of his comedy skits that some people misinterpret as news or political commentary. It's just sad that so many younger voters consider the Daily Show to be their primary source of news, especially considering their proficiency with the internet and the sources available there.

In Graham's case, he was lucky to have so many challengers to split the vote instead of having to deal with just one quality conservative opponent, like Thad Cochran is faced with in his race in MS. We'll see how that turns out in a couple of weeks.
 
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