The new Ron Paul game

Turtle

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If this information, assuming that it is accurate, is any reflection of what Paul accomplished so far, I would have little hope for him in a presidential role. If he can't get a majority in Congress to support him on basically anything, there wouldn't be much confidence on anything past that.
A few things here. One, you have to know, rather than assume, what he has been trying to accomplish. You also have to take into account the job description of a Representative. The job of a Representative, contrary to their and others' belief, is not to create and pass legislation for the sake of passing legislation. It's to represent their district at home. Considering how many times this alleged incompetent Representative has been re-elected, it should force someone to think in terms other than legislation passed as the litmus test for effectiveness and accomplishment.

So now we're back to, "What is he trying to accomplish?" He's trying to reduce the size and reach of government, and do so according to the Constitution. In that light, it should not be surprising that he cannot get a majority in Congress to support him, as the majority in Congress have virtually dismissed the Constitution as irrelevant and are trying to do the opposite of what Paul is trying to accomplish. It's hardly a case of him not getting along and playing well with others as much as it is a case of him refusing to play the politics of corrupted compromise. His views, votes and sponsored bills have remained consistent over his 30 years in Congress, in every case in alignment with the Constitution.

It should also be noted that Reagan and Clinton had fewer legislative successes, combined, than Ron Paul. Clinton even ran for, and failed to get elected, for the same job Ron Paul has now, a US Representative. So legislative successes as a litmus test of any kind with respect to potential presidential effectiveness seems to be more of a red herring than anything else.
 

davekc

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I do agree, something has to be said for the length of time he has been in Congress. I do wonder though how effective he could be because of his positions. Not that they are bad or inconsistent, but with that Congress that is currently in place, I don't see him accomplishing much. In fact, I'm not quite sure anyone can get that much accomplished. Congress is where they really need an overhaul.
 
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layoutshooter

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Length of time in Congress proves only that he is still in office. Not out of the ordinary since incumbents tend to get reelected. Just look a John Dingell. He was elected the first time in 1955 and we are STILL stuck with him. His father was in that seat before him.

Our political system has become perverted by career politicians. It was never meant to be that way. That is one of the primary reasons it is now so corrupt.
 

layoutshooter

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Certainly provides a good reason for term limits.

It also proves how gullible the American people are. They are FAR more interested in the party than the person. In our district, as in many, it boils down to winning the vote of the 'gimmie goobers'. Few where I live even know that we have a Constitution or how it benefits them to have it followed.
 

davekc

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It also proves how gullible the American people are. They are FAR more interested in the party than the person. In our district, as in many, it boils down to winning the vote of the 'gimmie goobers'. Few where I live even know that we have a Constitution or how it benefits them to have it followed.

Are you sure they are really interested in the party? I thought the gullible were more interested in Jersey Shores.:cool:
 

layoutshooter

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Are you sure they are really interested in the par? I thought the gullible were more interested in Jersey Shores.:cool:

LOL!! In that district in Michigan there are few options. They are a member of a union or on some form of public assistance. The remaining 4 of us pay attention to what is going on.
 
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