I dont think im better then everyone else
I didn't think so from your posts but a lot of your brethren actually do.
Social Security, it is the only system we have as a national retirement assistant system.
every manufactoring company is out priced in the USA, doesnt matter what they pay, we cant compete with 2 dollar an hr wages and less thats a mute point.
Well a little part of that is true. Germany has higher wages but they also have some odd system where the unions are not adversarial towards the companies and the last time I looked they were ramping up their economy and workforce.
We as a country can't compete with Indonesia, China, Mexico, India and even Puerto Rico but we can compete against Japan, Korea, France, Germany, Italy and the UK. SO what's the problem?
Here it is, we out-priced ourselves in the market by the one factor, wages. The cycle of wages has been going on since the industrial revolution and it this simple - when a country accumulates wealth from their exports, their standards and cost of living rise while other countries wealth, standard and cost of living all decline or stays stagnate. In doing so, the nation which makes the gains loses the competitiveness of their workforce and the market shifts from exporter to importer. What happens is just what happened in england in the 1840's with their textile industry being gutted by India's exports. The same holds true for the electronics industry in the 1970's, japan did it cheaper not because the government was involved but because our industry became bloated and labor priced itself out of the market.
Henry Ford, well actually his execs recognized two important issues they faced in 1913 with the 'assembly line' that was costing them a lot of money, one was workers being cycled through their manufacturing system at an alarming rate and the second was in doing so, labor was the biggest expense they had when it came to retaining talent and training. What Ford reluctantly did was to set up the foundation for the modern middle class by offering $5 a day for workers who proved themselves.
Even though this raised the standard of living for a lot of people in the Ford organization, it also forced Ford to shift production off shore to accommodate those markets where wages were a lot lower. Exports of Ford USA made products dropped and he made this up by using other outlets for this products for the markets where he could not afford to export to. I know this sounds odd because he also lowered his prices and offered a rebate in 1915 but it is actually very true, the Ford organization was huge.
now your telling and setting the standards for workers on wages and benes? maybe you should have hired someone like we did to do it for you this is a free country, free to neogaite what you get paid.
Actually the market sets those standards, not me. I have hired people who negotiated their wage, it worked out great for all involved. I didn't displace a worker because of it but rather leveraged the difference to my advantage and to the customer's advantage, hence having more work and gaining a few more customers.
come on, the UAW was not solely responsible for auto troubles.
Actually no the UAW isn't solely responsible, but the union, not the people are to blame for a lot of it. With the cost of bailing out these two companies and then having the UAW receive any compensation for pretty much doing nothing is ludicrous to say the least. Their investment into the company and that of the people who worked there has been zero so they should have received zero.
The worker is at fault for allowing themselves to become sheep and allow a system to be built on false pretenses, which is protection of the worker. Their attitude also has a lot to do with how they are looked at by the people who actually matter, the people who buy the product. As one said "why should these guy complain, I have to pay for my prescriptions they should too"
The auto companies, Ford, GM and Chrysler all are at fault for being arrogant, and nothing else. The salaries of the execs, the purchases of other companies and so on have zero to do with it, it is and always has been their arrogance which causes them not to change with the market. They complained about the Japanese companies but failed to bring a product to the market at a competitive price that people can BUY, but instead pushed leasing, pushed the same crap they have had for years and didn't fight for either harmonization of regulations or fight to remove other costly barriers like CARB regulations.
you dont like unions, fine, but many do, and they have the right to chose, you dont have the right to chose for them.
Well I don't like the UAW and not fond of the Teamsters. I know both these unions well enough to make that call. IBEW, police and fire unions, Operating engineers, mining unions and other unions like them are good and I support them but I don't support ASFME, NEA, AFL-CIO, UAW, sort of the Teamsters, SEIU, and many of the service unions.
See I don't have the right to choose, I have to deal with a union that controls my rights to have civil servants fired if they do something wrong, I have to deal with a union who protect incompetent teachers which should be the right of the people to get rid of. For the kid who struggles to get into a charter school and fails, it isn't because of his inability to achieve that goal but the union who is fighting the idea that he has that right to choose. What do you tell that kid who is stuck in a sub-standard school, it is their right to have a union?
