State to citizens: No more petitions for you

chefdennis

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So much for government "of the people and for the people"....

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State to citizens: No more petitions for you

Proposal would 'virtually eliminate' citizens' right to decide referendums

Posted: July 31, 2010
11:50 pm Eastern

By Michael Carl
© 2010 WorldNetDaily
State to citizens: No more petitions for you

An amendment of the Massachusetts Constitution proposed by Democrats could virtually put an end to citizen-initiated referendums in the state.

The amendment, proposed jointly by state Rep. Byron Rushing in the House and by state Sen. Cynthia Stone Creem in the Senate, would exclude any citizen petition that deals with issues concerning a person's right to "the enjoyment of life, liberty and property, according to standing laws."

Massachusetts Family Association President Kris Mineau opposes the amendment, asserting it would have a chilling effect on the people of Massachusetts.

Get the instructions for the making and maintenance of the United States: the Constitution!

"If the amendment passes the legislature and it goes all the way through, it would virtually eliminate the citizen's right to petition in Massachusetts," Mineau said.

"Oh yes, life, liberty or property. I can't think of a single piece of legislation that doesn't effect life, liberty or property in some way," Mineau added.

Mineau believes there's a deeper reason for the proposal.

"It's absolutely the objective of the amendment's sponsors to shut out the voters. Again, this would be a disenfranchisement of the citizens. They don't believe we're sophisticated enough to make decisions that only the elite elected officials are," Mineau stated.

"That's why this November's election is so critical, both in the nation and in the commonwealth (of Massachusetts)," Mineau observed.

Although it was stated nowhere specifically, the change would appear to prevent any family issues from being brought to voters, such as a constitutional amendment that marriage is limited to one man and one woman, as dozens of states already have done.

Republican state Sen. Richard Ross, who won the special election to fill U. S. Sen. Scott Brown's statehouse seat, says he's opposed to the amendment.

"The people should have the right to have the initiative petition, and I've been a supporter of the petition process in the past," Ross said.

State Rep. Brad Hill also says he supports citizen petitions.

One of the opponents is House Minority Leader Brad Jones. The Republican state representative believes the proposal is done.

"It's a ridiculous proposal, and it's not going anywhere," Jones said.

The measure has solid support, however. Senate Bill 23 received only one dissenting vote and was reported out of the Legislature's Joint Judiciary Committee with an "ought to pass" recommendation.

The amendment states, "No proposition inconsistent with any one of the following rights of the individual, as at present declared in the declaration of rights … shall be the subject of an initiative or referendum petition."

Rushing and Creem were unavailable for comment, and the current constitutional convention meetings have been adjourned. A clerk's office source in the state Senate said no date has been scheduled for another meeting.

But Mineau warns the issue isn't finished.

"It's not going to go away. It will be back. The ruling elite don't believe we're smart enough to decide anything for ourselves, so no, it's not dead," Mineau said.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
It appears that someone in the Massachusetts Legislature needs to read up a bit on the Incorporation Doctrine, where the Supreme Court has incorporated all of the Bill of Rights to apply to all the states, except the Fifth Amendment right to an indictment by a grand jury, and the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial in civil lawsuits. All other Bill of Rights rights apply to the states, even Massachusetts.

The First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Like the man said, it's a ridiculous proposal.
 

skyraider

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US Navy
Lets cut to the chase: We got one Muslim running the country and the Mexicans are telling him what to do,IMHO of course:D
 

Pilgrim

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Retired Expediter
The legacy of Bill Clinton will be having established the mindset within a generation of young people that oral sex isn't sex, that "everybody does it" and doing it under the desk at work doesn't interfere with your job performance.

Likewise, we'll probably someday be able to say that one segment of the Barack Hussein Obama legacy is the practice of liberal legislators ignoring the inconveniences of the US Constitution when passing their proposed legislation. This was the situation with ObamaCare, and now Mass is following the same game plan.

Nov 2d can't come soon enough.
 

Turtle

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Retired Expediter
Ironically, everyone in all of the State Legislatures, the US Congress and the Office of the President and Vice President, were elected by We The People.

We The People need a good talkin' to.
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
I think the US Government is on its last leg, confusion, no leadership, moral decay, porno going on in the government offices, no one working really, pushing paper and not really producing anything but more taxation, buying off others, buying more expensive personal airplanes to jet set across the USA for weekend retreats, calling right wrong and wrong right, and making excuses for their failures blaming someone else and so forth,,boy am I positive or what????
 
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