Change for the worse.

[layoutshooter]

I remember hearings stories from my dad and uncles about how they would hunt on the way to school every day during the season. They would put whatever game they got in the spring house to keep it cool. They would put their shotguns in their SCHOOL LOCKER and then hunt their way back home.

They had fights in school just as they do today. They had bullies, just as they do today. There is little new under the sun.

The difference is how those fights and bullies are handled today.

In his day, and mine, a good "whoopin" cured many ills. A bully, sooner or later, got the "stuff" beat out of him/her and the bulling stopped.

Now fights lead to murders, bullies are allowed to bully and those who would stop them are punished and the schools do nothing.

Guns are the blame, not the fact that right and wrong are no longer taught. Can't hurt little Johnnies self esteem by telling him that stealing is a sin. OMG!! Heaven forbid. Little Johnnie is "entitled to steal if his parents can't by him a $200 pair of sneakers.

Below are a few, not so tongue in cheek scenarios that go a very long way in explaining the stupidity that we live with today.

Enjoy!!!







HIGH SCHOOL -- 1957 vs. 2009

Scenario 1:

Jack goes quail hunting before school and then pulls into the school parking lot with his shotgun in his truck's gun rack.

1957 - Vice Principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his shotgun to show Jack.

2009 - School goes into lock down, FBI called, Jack hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors called in for traumatized students and teachers.


Scenario 2:

Johnny and Mark get into a fist fight after school.

1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies.

2009 - Police called and SWAT team arrives -- they arrest both Johnny and Mark.. They are both charged with assault and both expelled even though Johnny started it.


Scenario 3:

Jeffrey will not be still in class, he disrupts other students.

1957 - Jeffrey sent to the Principal's office and given a good paddling by the Principal. He then returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again.

2009 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. He becomes a zombie. He is then tested for ADD. The school gets extra money from the state because Jeffrey has a disability.

Scenario 4:

Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt.


1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college and becomes a successful businessman.

2009 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. The state psychologist is told by Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist.


Scenario 5:

Mark gets a headache and takes some aspirin to school.

1957 - Mark shares his aspirin with the Principal out on the smoking dock.

2009 - The police are called and Mark is expelled from school for drug violations. His car is then searched for drugs and weapons.

Scenario 6:

Pedro fails high school English.

1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English and goes to college.

2009 - Pedro's cause is taken up by state. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that teaching English as a requirement for graduation is racist. ACLU files class action lawsuit against the state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is then banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English.

Scenario 7:

Johnny takes apart leftover firecrackers from the Fourth of July, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up a red ant bed.

1957 - Ants die.

2009- ATF, Homeland Security and the FBI are all called.. Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. The FBI investigates his parents -- and all siblings are removed from their home and all computers are confiscated. Johnny's dad is placed on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again.

Scenario 8:

Johnny falls while running during recess and scrapes his knee. He is found crying by his teacher, Mary . Mary hugs him to comfort him..

1957 - In a short time, Johnny feels better and goes on playing.

2009 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces 3 years in State Prison. Johnny undergoes 5 years of therapy.

 

[LDB]

Those are more right than wrong. Sadly, there are those who will not see any of it.

 

[Turtle]

Ironic isn't it that Jack, Johnny, Mark, Jeffery, Billy and Pedro all grew up to be helicopter parents who's overreactions caused the attitudes and laws which we live with today.

 

[layoutshooter]

Ironic isn't it that Jack, Johnny, Mark, Jeffery, Billy and Pedro all grew up to be helicopter parents who's overreactions caused the attitudes and laws which we live with today.

Not all, just many.

The real life examples of hunting to and from school are not limited to just my dad and uncles. I once interviewed several older men at a waterfowl festival/dog trail in S.C. PA what I used to write for an on-line waterfowlers web site. To a man they remembered and told me about how they did the same. To a man, they could not believe just how stupid this countries attitudes had become. How out of touch with reality.

 

[Turtle]

That's because those realities, at least the ones regarding hunting, are realized by people who mostly live in areas where hunting doesn't happen at all, on the east coast, in the cities. You don't have to go back only to 1957, you can go back to 1907, and the vast majority of school children in places like Philadelphia and Washington and New York City did not hunt at all, much less on the way to and from school.

While the east-coasters (and west coasters) will always largely be out of touch with the realities of Flyover America, the reverse is also true. What works in NYC doesn't, or often isn't needed, in Midwestern cities. The reverse is also true.

 

[greg334]

Well I don't know what hunting has to do with it ...

actually I don't see the issue with the time line, it seems normal for public provided education.

Different time, different society, different values.

See Layout, back in the 50's, even though you had it good, there were school shootings, stabbings and a lot of violence happening in a lot of schools. It seems that the people who were bullied at that time grew up to be the intellectuals who now call the shots. Pretty much a poetic justice ... I guess in a way.

But it also is an issue as Turtle pointed out that we have become a society of helicopter parenting, where the parent is told, convinced or otherwise conditioned to understand their off spring can't do it without their help - oh that looks like a bunch of liberal parents.

Well anywho...

A good example is my sister and brother-in-law who coddled their sons and now they are useless. The oldest became a vegetarian because of the shock of gutting a deer he shot. His mommy bends over backwards for him on making him veggie meals. He is in college and can't for any reason take care of his own stuff, the parents are on the trek to pick him and his sh*t up at MTU, a 650 mile trip instead of telling him "get it home yourself". The story is a never ending one, from the laziness of the kids to the contempt they have for us and their grandmother.

 

[layoutshooter]

That's because those realities, at least the ones regarding hunting, are realized by people who mostly live in areas where hunting doesn't happen at all, on the east coast, in the cities. You don't have to go back only to 1957, you can go back to 1907, and the vast majority of school children in places like Philadelphia and Washington and New York City did not hunt at all, much less on the way to and from school.

While the east-coasters (and west coasters) will always largely be out of touch with the realities of Flyover America, the reverse is also true. What works in NYC doesn't, or often isn't needed, in Midwestern cities. The reverse is also true.

Yeah, you are correct. At least I don't run around passing laws that would clean up the mess that our cities are. Like city people are doing to my life style. They would rebel if forced to CLEAN up cesspools that THEY live in. Or, eliminate the CRIME and stop blaming guys like me for it. ETC ETC.

From my point of view only, people that live in large cities ENJOY, filth, graffiti, crime, murder, OR, they would not tolerate it as they do. If that is what they like, fine, but don't pass laws to restrict MY life to compensate for their inablility to clean up their own act.

But that piece was more in general and my input about hunting to school was just one example, not the main thrust of the post.