Letter To Obama From Michael Moore...

dieseldiva

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I guess the far left isn't happy......:rolleyes:

Mike's Letter

November 30th, 2009 3:44 AM An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore


Dear President Obama,

Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do -- destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they've always heard is true -- that all politicians are alike. I simply can't believe you're about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn't so.

It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around. That's the way General Washington insisted it must be. That's what President Truman told General MacArthur when MacArthur wanted to invade China. "You're fired!," said Truman, and that was that. And you should have fired Gen. McChrystal when he went to the press to preempt you, telling the press what YOU had to do. Let me be blunt: We love our kids in the armed services, but we f*#&in' hate these generals, from Westmoreland in Vietnam to, yes, even Colin Powell for lying to the UN with his made-up drawings of WMD (he has since sought redemption).
So now you feel backed into a corner. 30 years ago this past Thursday (Thanksgiving) the Soviet generals had a cool idea -- "Let's invade Afghanistan!" Well, that turned out to be the final nail in the USSR coffin.

There's a reason they don't call Afghanistan the "Garden State" (though they probably should, seeing how the corrupt President Karzai, whom we back, has his brother in the heroin trade raising poppies). Afghanistan's nickname is the "Graveyard of Empires." If you don't believe it, give the British a call. I'd have you call Genghis Khan but I lost his number. I do have Gorbachev's number though. It's + 41 22 789 1662. I'm sure he could give you an earful about the historic blunder you're about to commit.

With our economic collapse still in full swing and our precious young men and women being sacrificed on the altar of arrogance and greed, the breakdown of this great civilization we call America will head, full throttle, into oblivion if you become the "war president." Empires never think the end is near, until the end is here. Empires think that more evil will force the heathens to toe the line -- and yet it never works. The heathens usually tear them to shreds.

Choose carefully, President Obama. You of all people know that it doesn't have to be this way. You still have a few hours to listen to your heart, and your own clear thinking. You know that nothing good can come from sending more troops halfway around the world to a place neither you nor they understand, to achieve an objective that neither you nor they understand, in a country that does not want us there. You can feel it in your bones.

I know you know that there are LESS than a hundred al-Qaeda left in Afghanistan! A hundred thousand troops trying to crush a hundred guys living in caves? Are you serious? Have you drunk Bush's Kool-Aid? I refuse to believe it.

Your potential decision to expand the war (while saying that you're doing it so you can "end the war") will do more to set your legacy in stone than any of the great things you've said and done in your first year. One more throwing a bone from you to the Republicans and the coalition of the hopeful and the hopeless may be gone -- and this nation will be back in the hands of the haters quicker than you can shout "tea bag!"

Choose carefully, Mr. President. Your corporate backers are going to abandon you as soon as it is clear you are a one-term president and that the nation will be safely back in the hands of the usual idiots who do their bidding. That could be Wednesday morning.

We the people still love you. We the people still have a sliver of hope. But we the people can't take it anymore. We can't take your caving in, over and over, when we elected you by a big, wide margin of millions to get in there and get the job done. What part of "landslide victory" don't you understand?

Don't be deceived into thinking that sending a few more troops into Afghanistan will make a difference, or earn you the respect of the haters. They will not stop until this country is torn asunder and every last dollar is extracted from the poor and soon-to-be poor. You could send a million troops over there and the crazy Right still wouldn't be happy. You would still be the victim of their incessant venom on hate radio and television because no matter what you do, you can't change the one thing about yourself that sends them over the edge.
The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can't be won over by abandoning the rest of us.

President Obama, it's time to come home. Ask your neighbors in Chicago and the parents of the young men and women doing the fighting and dying if they want more billions and more troops sent to Afghanistan. Do you think they will say, "No, we don't need health care, we don't need jobs, we don't need homes. You go on ahead, Mr. President, and send our wealth and our sons and daughters overseas, 'cause we don't need them, either."

What would Martin Luther King, Jr. do? What would your grandmother do? Not send more poor people to kill other poor people who pose no threat to them, that's what they'd do. Not spend billions and trillions to wage war while American children are sleeping on the streets and standing in bread lines.

All of us that voted and prayed for you and cried the night of your victory have endured an Orwellian hell of eight years of crimes committed in our name: torture, rendition, suspension of the bill of rights, invading nations who had not attacked us, blowing up neighborhoods that Saddam "might" be in (but never was), slaughtering wedding parties in Afghanistan. We watched as hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were slaughtered and tens of thousands of our brave young men and women were killed, maimed, or endured mental anguish -- the full terror of which we scarcely know.

When we elected you we didn't expect miracles. We didn't even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn't even function as a nation and never, ever has.
Stop, stop, stop! For the sake of the lives of young Americans and Afghan civilians, stop. For the sake of your presidency, hope, and the future of our nation, stop. For God's sake, stop.
Tonight we still have hope.

Tomorrow, we shall see. The ball is in your court. You DON'T have to do this. You can be a profile in courage. You can be your mother's son.

We're counting on you.
Yours,
Michael Moore
[email protected]
MichaelMoore.com
P.S. There's still time to have your voice heard. Call the White House at 202-456-1111 or email the President.
 

Turtle

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But all politicians are alike. It's about time the "multitude of young people" found that out. They placed their hopes and dreams on the back of a run-o-the-mill Chicago politician, not a savior. The truth hurts.

Incidentally, all you have to know about Michael Moore is that he has an AOL e-mail address.
 

greg334

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I think that if Rev King was still alive in today's world, he may be on the side of defending the country. I also think his grandmother would say "nuke 'em".
 

LDB

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A letter from a hypocritical narcissist sent to a hypocritical narcissist. What did that moron Moore expect? What did any of the morons who supported Obama think? Well, there were the millions who either already got or still want the reward for being CRIMINALS and then there were the millions too ignorant to know enough to vote. That still leaves many millions who theoretically are intelligent enough to know better. Well, I'm glad to see Moore is disappointed. It couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
 

layoutshooter

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Mr. Moore is not really known for any form of rational thought. I doubt that even Obama is too worried about what he thinks. Mr. Moore, in my opion which is worth about as much as a less than 75, is nothing more than a wacked out ultra left wing malcontent.
 

OntarioVanMan

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If the letter is even true there are some good points...

Afghanistan is a nation killer...
many have tried, none have succeeded.

Especially with the ROE in place..we will waste a lot of American and allies lives and NOT win!!
We will fail....period!!
 

hdxpedx

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Can't help but to connect the dots- REVENUE!! The MOOOORE he screams like al gork, the moooore lemmings fund their BANK accounts!!
 

OntarioVanMan

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What the heck??? What dots? There is no steekin dots!!
You scream for screamin sakes....

Obama ordered GM (Government Motors) to build a new convertible called the Pelosi. Nobody would buy one because of how awful it would look with the top down.
 
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greg334

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OVM,
It is from moore, it is posted on his site and there is another amusing one about saving the big three - only an autoworker can write this cr*p.

He opens with this "I drive an American car." and then in typical autoworker speak he justifies his move to buy an American car that is really a foreign car as others have around here - it's a Chrysler not a Damiler-Chrysler.
 

Steady Eddie

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If the letter is even true there are some good points...

Afghanistan is a nation killer...
many have tried, none have succeeded.

Especially with the ROE in place..we will waste a lot of American and allies lives and NOT win!!
We will fail....period!!

Yep, thoughts like that will ensure victory for "them", proven in the past. We can win this war, if we really wanted to. Until those in charge "grow a pair", it is going to be longer than we ever thought it would be.

Oh, and welcome to America! You're fitting right, (left), in with that kinda thinking...

Boy, wish your sister-in-law would come over here and read your post...she will have you run out of Bison on a rail...
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Yep, thoughts like that will ensure victory for "them", proven in the past. We can win this war, if we really wanted to. Until those in charge "grow a pair", it is going to be longer than we ever thought it would be.

Oh, and welcome to America! You're fitting right, (left), in with that kinda thinking...

Boy, wish your sister-in-law would come over here and read your post...she will have you run out of Bison on a rail...

well? which way is it? You say we can win if we grew a set and then call me "right" minded...???

Of course we can win it..BUT not the way we are going about it....or it'll take 30 years more and many American lives...
 

greg334

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Afghanistan is a nation killer...
many have tried, none have succeeded.
Umm ... yea ... right ... let's see ... who have actually invaded the country in the 20th century;

The Soviets

The Americans

That's about it.

Anglo-Afghan wars in the 19th and 20th century were about land grabs and border disputes and don't count but got to tell you that for the 40 years of independent rule under a monarchy, the country actually prospered.

You want to win that war, then it has to be fought with the same amount of effort that it took to fight the Germans.

Democratizing is not the thing to do here, maybe looking at helping the country become another constitutional monarchy. Why force them into something that is bad for them to begin with - down with democracies.

Oh by the way, just so you can put this into a bigger picture, the soviets invaded the country because of us, we were dumping arms and money into the country trying to change the pro-soviet government to a pro-free government but failed. Carter's advisors were the one's who came up with this great idea and a few of those are also advising......... Obama.
 
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Steady Eddie

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well? which way is it? You say we can win if we grew a set and then call me "right" minded...???

Of course we can win it..BUT not the way we are going about it....or it'll take 30 years more and many American lives...

Ok, go re-read the post...I NEVER Said you were right minded...You said we can not win it...did I miss something?
 
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