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Pilgrim

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It shouldn't be hard to figure out why mainstream Republicans speak with such disdain about "Rockefeller Republicans." Here's another quote from David Rockefeller that provides some insight into his mindset (emphasis mine):​

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national determination practiced in past centuries.” (David Rockefeller, speaking at the June 1991, Bilderberg meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany June 1991.)

Regarding his praise of the success of Chairman Mao's "social experiment", one has only to look to the per capita gross national product of China in 1973 - $839 compared to $16,689 for the US. It just so happened that China ranked DEAD LAST among industrialized or major nations in per capita GNP that year.​


To compare the standard of living in China at that time to that of the US is ludicrous. But no doubt "high morale and community of purpose" was confirmed by every Chinese citizen that didn't want to be sent to Outer Mongolia. High praise from Rockefeller for a dictator responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of his citizens.

Finally, one more quote that aptly describes the Rockefeller family and their associates back in 1922:

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Thing about it is, that statement wasn't just accurate only in 1922 - it's accurate at present .....

Hasn't it always been about the dollars?

Big business controls the government really?
Money equates to power...power equates to control....
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
What I am puzzled by is how he came up with this idea of success in a closed country. Surely China was not open enough at that time to make a determination what was successful and what was not under Mao's tutelage. Mao was clear on how he saw the world and I think that, like Stalin with help from others made it look like the any citizen of the Soviet Union was far better off than any American citizen by the fact that he presented happy people to the world.

It is akin to North Korea today, we know people live like animals in most of the country but someone can make the claim that their form of government has been more successful in the respect of productivity than ours but without adding in the fact that there is a lack of freedom to allow an individual to determine their own destiny would negate any and all statements of success in comparison - if that made sense?
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
What I am puzzled by is how he came up with this idea of success in a closed country.
Well, when you have almost unlimited assets and can afford to hire enough people to staff the family office (<--- click for definition), Room 5600, which takes up two entire floors of Rockefeller Center, you might be surprised about how open a "closed" country might be ..... one way or another.

Just think about that for a moment ...... two entire floors of a large modern office building (I have no idea of the total square footage but it's got to be huge) filled with hundreds of people doing nothing but making your money make money ..... day in, day out .... thru all sorts of financial chicanery ..... (especially since you are large enough and have huge financial resources, and enough intel, and control to influence markets)

Surely China was not open enough at that time to make a determination what was successful and what was not under Mao's tutelage.
Yeah ..... well .... it wasn't open to you or me ...... or maybe not even to certain heads of state ..... but you are talking about someone who owns (or controls, which is really the important thing) a significant portion of the assets of this country, if not this planet ....

Mao was clear on how he saw the world and I think that, like Stalin with help from others made it look like the any citizen of the Soviet Union was far better off than any American citizen by the fact that he presented happy people to the world.
Ah .... yeeeeaaah ...... so you're sayin' Mao snookered David Rockefeller ?

Pulled the wool over his eyes, did he ?

C'mon Greg ..... please, please tell me that's really not where you're goin' here ........ :rolleyes:

It is akin to North Korea today, we know people live like animals in most of the country but someone can make the claim that their form of government has been more successful in the respect of productivity than ours but without adding in the fact that there is a lack of freedom to allow an individual to determine their own destiny would negate any and all statements of success in comparison - if that made sense?
Oh, it makes perfect sense ...... to a true believer ... (the world is composed only of good men, I'm from the government and I'm here to help you, pay no attention to the man behind the black curtain) :rolleyes:

Whadda think about this one - figure it was really a suicide ?

Rockefeller Chief McDonald Dies in Apparent Suicide

Funny thing about people who get on the bad side, or in the way of, this family - they often seem to wind up dead ......

I'll tell ya about a few more of 'em (the dead ones) ..... once I get the chance to dig up the names and the data.
 
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Hasn't it always been about the dollars? Big business controls the government really? Money equates to power...power equates to control....
Yup, pretty much:

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets (one more body for ya Greg)

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests (Rockefeller), the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

"An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."

U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had mens views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But, he didnt. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist political support.

"The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.

"The depression was the calculated shearing of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market .... The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."

Curtis Dall, FDRs son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law
 
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