America’s Tipping Point

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
This is from a contributor to another board i go to. It is written to the regular posters of that boarad and it has references to other posters within it also that are regular contributors...this is a very good read....

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America’s Tipping Point
by Forgiven

Once For All: Forgiven’s Blog

Malcolm Gladwell’s The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference is a book I recommend as it really captures the essence of how ideas, products, messages, and behaviors spread like viruses. Since most of my essays are devoted to our present national economic crisis, I’d like to view present events in light of Gladwell’s “The Law of the Few,” “The Stickiness Factor,” and “The Power of Context” presented in his book and ask a few questions. I think you’ll appreciate this because winds of the greatest economic hurricane to dash our shores are gaining momentum. This growing lack of confidence may well soon become unstoppable.

The Law of the Few
According to Gladwell, the success of any kind of social epidemic is dependent upon the gifts of socially connected people described as Connectors (people with a knack for knowing lots of people), Mavens (people gifted in accumulating special knowledge and information), and Salesmen (social persuaders). When the social epidemic is falling confidence in the US Dollar, Treasuries, and economy, the leadership of connectors, mavens, and salesmen plays a special role in pushing the epidemic to a tipping point (where the momentum is unstoppable). Who are these connectors, mavens, and salespeople who have precipitated the fall of confidence? Do they have inside information or are they simply gifted observers? Are any of them changing their tune? Celente, Roubini, Ritholtz, Shedlock, JohnGaltFla, and Taleb are folks I deem mavens. None of them think this ends this year.

The Stickiness Factor
The very thought of an American economic collapse itself is a message with resonating and memorable impact. The message continues to be reinforced when the likes of two of the three big three car companies GM and Chrysler file bankruptcy and big banks such as WaMu, Lehman Brothers, Wachovia, and Bear Stearns fail. People notice the precipitous drop in the value of their 401K retirement plans, spend less, invest less, and thereby cause other businesses to lose revenue. It becomes a pandemic of fear. Are the actions taken by the fed and the Zero administration designed to stop the fear or to address the root causes? Are their actions working? I think they’re trying to abate fear and I don’t think it’s working. Read the Charts sticky posted by HouseWolf, it's like an EKG.

The Power of Context
In a time when our nation is fighting war in two countries, being threatened by nuclear upstarts in North Korea and Iran, laughed at by the Chinese, and concern for the spreading instability between Russia and Georgia over pipelines, the possibility of a collapse and it’s probability become enhanced in the context of growing global uncertainty. Continue to read the posts of The Flying Dutchman and Housecarl.

People find themselves stuck with a tax debt they didn’t vote on. They find themselves owning car companies they didn’t buy. They find their rights constantly under attack. They see brutality shelled out by law enforcement. They see a Federal Reserve out of control. They see their bills rising and their incomes shrinking or vanishing. Any collapse will surely cause severe dislocations and unrest within. The unintended consequence could well be violent civil unrest. DOOMER DOUG has posted several opinions on how deep things could fall.

Is There a Way Out?
Trends, fads, and viruses eventually fade and die out. With respect to this economic virus, I don’t think we have even seen the pandemic phase hit yet. There is still a great deal of risky assets needing to be wound down. There are commercial real estate CDO’s about to implode, corporate earnings are still falling, and car sales are crashing! If anything, downward momentum is gaining force. The ‘green shoots’ are a myth concocted by the mind-control agencies serving milk toast and propaganda as news. Watch out folks. INVAR has warned us, their intentions are wicked.
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OntarioVanMan

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As I predicted earlier...about the job numbers a slight movement

A net total of 247,000 jobs were lost last month, the fewest in a year and a drastic improvement from the 443,000 that vanished in June.
The Labor Department's report Friday showed that the unemployment rate dropped a notch to 9.4 percent in July, from 9.5 percent the previous month. Together with slight increases in the average workweek and wages, When you consider how many TEMP jobs thru OBama construction sites....

Talked with an Averitt transport driver they are working Saturdays for the first time in over a year...freight in some areas is picking up.
 

layoutshooter

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Fewer being lost is good, no REAL replacement jobs and none is sight is bad. We have a LONG way to go but this is a baby step in the right direction. A TINY baby step. The biggest worry is if we go into a "Carter" like hyper-inflation period which is a REAL concern right now. That would kill any chance of meaningful recovery for a very long time.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Fewer being lost is good, no REAL replacement jobs and none is sight is bad. We have a LONG way to go but this is a baby step in the right direction. A TINY baby step. The biggest worry is if we go into a "Carter" like hyper-inflation period which is a REAL concern right now. That would kill any chance of meaningful recovery for a very long time.

that was my refence to TEMP jobs....not one NEW manufacturing job.....

Scrap the Health Care and lets get these companies back here, using the same money earmarked for this silly healthcare....America needs jobs now!!
 

layoutshooter

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Government money have NO business being used to create jobs. Lower taxes on business AND everyone else and stand back. Robbing Peter to pay Paul does NOT work. Government just needs to get the HECK out of the way. THEY are THE problem. THEY CAUSED this mess, there is NO WAY that they can fix it. In fact, I don't think that they want too. They have more power and control this way. The main goal of the left WAS to wipe out our economy. They did it!!
 

OntarioVanMan

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Government money have NO business being used to create jobs. Lower taxes on business AND everyone else and stand back. Robbing Peter to pay Paul does NOT work. Government just needs to get the HECK out of the way. THEY are THE problem. THEY CAUSED this mess, there is NO WAY that they can fix it. In fact, I don't think that they want too. They have more power and control this way. The main goal of the left WAS to wipe out our economy. They did it!!

Thats what I meant..lower taxes, incentives to create jobs....lower taxes is just another handout by returning what they shouldn't have taken in the first place...

think about what you just said...if they ruin the country thier is nothing to control....if we don't make anything still nothing to control....we are just a conssumer nation at the whim of other countries pulling our strings...if we make nothing we lose the power..you see that now...what good are we but customers?
 
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chefdennis

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todays numbers are nothing but BS...the government will not tell you the real #'s... the U6 number is at 16.8% of americans unemployed....this 1/10 of 1% drop is garbage...just more "make'em feel good some they won't know the truth media and government hype.

This is the report from the dept. of labor as of today, look at the U6 numbers, that is the true unemployment #!!

Table A-12. Alternative measures of labor underutilization
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Letting people keep the money that is righfully theirs is NOT a handout. It is just RIGHT!! Stealing it from them to give to other is just that, STEALING!! Remember, Robin Hood was just another THIEF, Santa Clause is NOT real and there is NO tooth fairy. There are only working people that the crooks that steal from them, no matter were that theft takes place. Obama and Co. are NO different that the crooks that robbed my house a few years back, just better at it is all.
 

davekc

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Still makes me wonder if the unemployment is down a notch, as to whether just not as many businesses closed, so fewer "new" unemployed. Once you have drained enough businesses, it would only be logical that new unemployment claims would drop.
There is more unemployed, just not "new".
It would seem to replace what is lost, you would need 14 to 15 million new jobs.
Just a thought to ponder.
I hope that is the wrong assessment. Just the skeptic in me.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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todays numbers are nothing but BS...the government will not tell you the real #'s... the U6 number is at 16.8% of americans unemployed....this 1/10 of 1% drop is garbage...just more "make'em feel good some they won't know the truth media and government hype.

This is the report from the dept. of labor as of today, look at the U6 numbers, that is the true unemployment #!!

Table A-12. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

..thats 16.3....a 2/10th drop overall....seasonally adjusted...

you read negative...i read positive...*LOL*
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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Letting people keep the money that is righfully theirs is NOT a handout. It is just RIGHT!! Stealing it from them to give to other is just that, STEALING!! Remember, Robin Hood was just another THIEF, Santa Clause is NOT real and there is NO tooth fairy. There are only working people that the crooks that steal from them, no matter were that theft takes place. Obama and Co. are NO different that the crooks that robbed my house a few years back, just better at it is all.

geez Joe who said PEOPLE!!! darn....corporate tax Joe....*LOL*
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Sounds about right to me Dave. The un-employement figures do NOT reflect the numbers out of work, only those on un-employement. Once you stop un-employment and go onto OTHER FORMs of assistance, like welfare you are NOT counted in the figures given. I think there is another more accurate method that the government NEVER uses because they are afraid what would happen if the real truth ever got out. Check out the link below, U-3 is the OFFICIAL number that is reported every day. U-6 is more the reality. Kind of scary.


Table A-12. Alternative measures of labor underutilization
 

layoutshooter

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Hey OVM, check out that link I posted above and look at the U-6 un-employment figures. That should scare them shorts off of you!!
 

chefdennis

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ovm wrote:

who designates the head?

it is decided on the irs tax forms, and it has nothing to do with male/female....

When i was not filing taxes and not paying income taxes, my wife always filed as Head of household....
 

OntarioVanMan

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ovm wrote:



it is decided on the irs tax forms, and it has nothing to do with male/female....

When i was not filing taxes and not paying income taxes, my wife always filed as Head of household....


top money earner is head of household in Canada..same here too...
 
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