Sen. Ted Stevens Vindicated

[Pilgrim]

Not that I think Sen. Stevens is pure as the wind-driven snow, but it's refreshing to see a fair-minded judge overrule a group of corrupt prosecuters and put them in the crosshairs for their misconduct. Just as was the case with Tom Delay, trumped-up charges were filed for the purpose of creating negative publicity for a Republican leader going into an important campaign season. This has become the modus operandi for the Democrats, and or course the mainstream media cooperates with them to the fullest. The Stevens charges were all over the front pages of the nations' newspapers leading up to the elections - however, you have to dig deep to find this one from the Washington Post:

"...The Justice Department would usually examine such accusations internally. But U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said yesterday that he has no faith in such an investigation after seeing so much "shocking and disturbing" behavior by the government.
"In 25 years on the bench, I have never seen anything approaching the mishandling and misconduct that I have seen in this case," he said...
Yesterday, Sullivan said he would appoint his own "prosecutor" to determine whether the six Justice Department lawyers should face criminal contempt charges. Convictions on such charges could lead to fines or jail time for the lawyers, who range from front-line prosecutors to the head of the public integrity section..."

For the entire article:washingtonpost.com

 

[LDB]

What a surprise. Had it been the Republicans pulling this on do it yourself abortion Teddy it would have been 10 minutes of Katie Couric's reports for many nights in a row. As it is it's an almost invisible story.

 

[chefdennis]

Typical....you think you can expect anything better from our government anymore!!?!? They are strictly looking for control and what is i their best interest and to h*ll with how it gets done, the ends justify the means....and that is leveled at both parties, this issue just happens to be against a Rep that was up for re-election, so why not destory him and his career to gain that seat.........

LOL, our Constitution has been shreaded and we might as well admit it...its up to each of us as individuals to take care of ours and our own, don't look to anyone else but family and don't venture too far out within family either..........

 

[Pilgrim]

For the purpose of contrast and comparison, look at the lack of coverage given Sen. Chris Dodd's sleazy loan deals, preferential treatment of Fannie and Freddie and their officers, and now his corrupt deal with the AIG bonuses he made sure were paid to his campaign donors. His approval ratings in CT are at an all time low in the bluest state in the country, yet he continues to go uninvestigated by the authorities and virtually ignored in the media outside of CT. Hopefully, the voters of CT will remember all of his skullduggery when the 2010 elections come around.

 

[copdsux]

Wasn't Ted Stevens tried and convicted under the Bush administration, by the Bush DOJ?

 

[Turtle]

The Democrats pull this kind of crap all the time. And the conservatives whine.

The Republicans pull this kind of crap all the time. And the liberals whine.

 

[chefdennis]

Freightchaser wrote:

Wasn't Ted Stevens tried and convicted under the Bush administration, by the Bush DOJ?

I just looked at all of the post on the thread, I didn't see anywhere anything about the current admin or the current DOJ...personally I made a point to make sure I leveled the charge against BOTH parties............

 

[letzrockexpress]

Wasn't Ted Stevens tried and convicted under the Bush administration, by the Bush DOJ?

Yes he was.....

 

[letzrockexpress]

Freightchaser wrote:



I just looked at all of the post on the thread, I didn't see anywhere anything about the current admin or the current DOJ...personally I made a point to make sure I leveled the charge against BOTH parties............

Do you own a calendar or do you have access to one?

 

[letzrockexpress]

The Democrats pull this kind of crap all the time. And the conservatives whine.The Republicans pull this kind of crap all the time. And the liberals whine.

Aw, now do you really want to muddy the water around here with the truth?

 

[flattop40]

Be careful Pilgrim. You cut and pasted AND added a link to another site. If you continue down this sorted path you will be ridiculed and ganged up on. There is a cook amung us who has been berated for this very tactic. Just a word to the wise.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Be careful Pilgrim. You cut and pasted AND added a link to another site. If you continue down this sorted path you will be ridiculed and ganged up on. There is a cook amung us who has been berated for this very tactic. Just a word to the wise.

A little gasoline for the fire, Scarecrow?

 

[Turtle]

Be careful Pilgrim. You cut and pasted AND added a link to another site.

You left out the part about where he ALSO added his own personal comments about the issue, which is the whole point of all this. Without adding the comments, it's nothing more than selective aggregating of propaganda.

 

[chefdennis]

Gee 1 complains i post too much on one topic and shouldn't post on that topic in this forum at all , one complains about the topic period and again it shouldn't be in this forum and that some of them are in her opinion, distasteful, now the WHOLE ISSUE is that I don't comment on my post..........well

Lets see, starting with today and moving back for the last 20 threads I started, i had to go back to the 30th of last month. Thats an avg. of what "2" threads a day.......ALL of them had my comments as well as the link and either the complete article or a few lines from the article and a note to use the link to finish reading it. Now i think 5, maybe 6 of them were no more then one sentence from me, others were 4-5 paragraphs....

So lets look at this, the complaint is I post too much, lol 2 threads a day avg is too much, I don't say anything of my own, well i guess I am not quite the "wordsmilth or plagiarist" as some others are or have been accused of being, guess I'll never be accused of that huh??? but are we now dicating how long a comment HAS to be to be considered ok!?!? LOL.......

So what this really is about is that some don't like the topic, because i have no use for barry and I [post NEWS that is counter to their view of him....oh well.........Enjoy....Oh and as for the "distateful" and that might not be the exact word, i really don't remember, but it gets the point across, anyhow, I guess its a matter of personal taste, others found the object very funny and one even wanted to use it as a target.....so again, i think thats a matter of personal opinion which we are all entitled too.........now enjoy

 

[Turtle]

Generally speaking, your comments are non-comments. They, more often than not, consists of that amounts to, "I agree with this! Yeah, baby! The Nicks Rule!"

There's no thought or analysis behind your "comments", nothing to spark conversation or debate. You post meaningless drivel so that later, like now, you can claim that you do, in fact, post comments. I'm not suggesting that your comments need to be particularly insightful or anything else, I'm just suggesting that your comments should include your take on the issue, your own personal views, and more often than not, they don't. On the rare occasions that they do, it is clear, frankly, that you have not investigated or studied the issues at all. You've already stated several times that your only objective in posting what you do is to make Obama look bad. So it appears that you have no interest in actually making thought provoking or constructive comments, anyway, which is a good thing, because it would certainly appear to the average reader that you are incapable of doing do.

When pressed on certain issues, or when comments are volunteered, you respond with stereotypical hot button responses that show no analysis or critical thinking. Your initial response here in this thread is nothing more than stereotypical hot button drivel, emotional statements with nothing to support it and certainly nothing to spark further conversation based on your comments. You can go back as far as you like and whine about 2 posts a day until you're blue in the face, but out of 1200 posts, it's quite probable that more than 1000 of them are pure drivel that mean nothing.

If you're truly serious, then answer this question: Why do you constantly refer to the President of the Unites States as "Barry?"

I already know the answer, but it might be fun for others to read what you have to say.

 

[chefdennis]

Ahhhh. well i hope you know that "barry" is his "nick" name, he was called barry as a kid growing up.........TATA...

So has for my comments not measuring up, you need to let go a bit turtle, not everyone seeks to garner a comment or debate, as i have said, i post to inform of the news i come across. Yeap, if it is about barry, I'll post as much negative as i can, i don't like his policies or ideals.....

Now as far as your "grading" of my posting, if you really want to have a fun time and "get yourself off, take a look at my sentence structure.......lol that I'll look forward to.....

Hey i am just dumb ole redneck that you give wayyyyyyyyy too much credit to......I don't think that hard to even come up with 90% of the stuff you accuse me of...but it sure os good to know that someone understands me personality traits, you got any suggestions, maybe someday they will come in handy and you sure are cheaper then seeking professional help that i can ignore???

Oh and has far as posting my comments to get others to comment or debate, why? My opinions, your opinions, everyones opinions here are totally irrerelavent, no one beyond other then those that read thos borad and certainly no one in the possition of power within our government is going use them for anyhtiong and they aren't going to make or change policy........now if you are looking for a pat on the back for some of your diatribes, you do offer some darn good info, ill gove you that, me, ill kick i bit in here and there, but i'll just leave the "heavy lifting to you!"

 

[DougTravels]

Turtle asked this: If you're truly serious, then answer this question: Why do you constantly refer to the President of the Unites States as "Barry?"

He's talking about Obama?? I am so out of touch, I thought he was talking about this guy, Barry White. I really thought Chef had lost it cause he has been dead for a few years now.

My mistake

 

[DougTravels]

To be perfectly honest, I thought maybe he meant this Barry

 

[highway star]

Oh and has far as posting my comments to get others to comment or debate, why? My opinions, your opinions, everyones opinions here are totally irrerelavent,

If that's the case, why spend so much time here? Why do we have a soapbox in the first place?

 

[Turtle]

Ahhhh. well i hope you know that "barry" is his "nick" name, he was called barry as a kid growing up.........TATA...

That's not an answer. He was referred to in many ways other than as Barry when he was growing up, and in any case, he's no longer a kid. I repeat the question to you...

Why do you constantly refer to the President of the Unites States as "Barry?"

So has for my comments not measuring up, you need to let go a bit turtle, not everyone seeks to garner a comment or debate, as i have said, i post to inform of the news i come across.

One, "let it go a bit"? This is hardly an issue that I have a hold of in pit bull fashion. It's something I have rarely commented on. Two, your complaints don't measure up, they're generally meaningless. You post them solely to be able to say that you post comments instead of just links or pure cut-n-paste. That's lame.

Yeap, if it is about barry, I'll post as much negative as i can, i don't like his policies or ideals.....

Which is the textbook definition of SPAM. It would be different if you also gave us your thoughts and analysis of his policies or deals, but you don't.

Now as far as your "grading" of my posting, if you really want to have a fun time and "get yourself off, take a look at my sentence structure.......lol that I'll look forward to.....

The leading quotation marks right before "get" have no trailing quotation marks. Who or what, exactly, are you quoting? And when does it end?

Hey i am just dumb ole redneck that you give wayyyyyyyyy too much credit to......I don't think that hard to even come up with 90% of the stuff you accuse me of...but it sure os good to know that someone understands me personality traits, you got any suggestions, maybe someday they will come in handy and you sure are cheaper then seeking professional help that i can ignore???

Huh?

Oh and has far as posting my comments to get others to comment or debate, why?

Because that's the whole purpose of this forum. The Soapbox was created as a forum to express opinions and to spark debate, not as a place to regurgitate the opinions of others in mindless drone fashion.

My opinions, your opinions, everyones opinions here are totally irrerelavent, no one beyond other then those that read thos borad and certainly no one in the possition of power within our government is going use them for anyhtiong and they aren't going to make or change policy........

The opinions expressed here in these forums may very well be irrelevant to those in a position of power in the government, but then again, I don't think there are very many expediters who post here in these forums do so with the hopes that our government is getting their decision-making ideas from these posts. But the fact is, everybody's opinion is relevant. The fact that you don't think they are relevant is very telling.