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layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
There is a report out in the last several days stating that Russia, Iran and Qatar are in talks about forming a OPEC style natrual gas cartel. They sorta down played the danger in this stating that we as a country do not import any gas from there. They went on to mention that it might cause problems in Europe and Asia. It should scare the pants off of us. Watch for China to join in the future. It will not take long for a Soviet style enslavement of the entire region. We had better wake up. We never learn. We did nothing to stop Russia in the '50's we had better do something and now. Take my word for it. The press is playing this down because they back the idea of a world government and this move would help. They like Soviet style rule and wish it for this country. So does Obama. Those people that don't matter, you know, Ayers, Wright etc. want that type of system here too. Still think Osama Obama is our "Man"? I know many will riducule this or make fun of what I write, too bad. The carnage will start again, and in the very near future only this time the "purges" and the mass murders of millions, the Gulags etc will be hear as well. Kinda makes sense too. The last time there was mass arrest and internment of innocent law abidding U.S. citizens there was a Democrate in office. Rooservelt. The Democates have always been a pro-slavery party and still are. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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Layout, we have had many good discussions BUT this is where I draw the line...Sorry....But the U.S has no right to impose it's way of politics or morality on any other sovereign country. Just because other countries belief differently then we do...IF THEY cross the line then war will be imminent BUT we can't cross the line first.


Wow...I haven't been lambasted yet...
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yep, I know what your saying. We did that in 1938 and Hitler murdered 12 million in the chambers and that war cost the lives of up to 25 million civilians in Europe. We did that with Soviet Russia in 1948 and they murdered over 25 million in Russia an Soviet Bloc countries and un-told numbers is S.E. Asia, South and Central America and Cuba. No use teaching history, it does no good. You see, we think it won't happen again. That was last century we have learned now. Russia or (insert who ever Nazi Germany etc.) have changed. They will not treat people like that again. There is a Russian term for thinking like that, Bullsh*tski!! But we will bury our heads in the sand or up our collective *sses and it will happen again but this time it will happen here as well. Obama is cut from that same cloth as Putun. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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I really do believe that with the security net around North America that we have no one can do much harm....missiles or whatever aren't coming thru our shields...We could stay home and let the others duke it out...
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Nice thought but it did not work before, it is called isolationism. You once told me how your Canadian reletives still harbored ill feelings for the U.S. for not "getting into it" with Germany right from the start. We should have. We were wrong. I learned from history. Most have not. All those deaths, some estimets of over 100 million and we stood by and did nothing. Tell me, is it worth sitting on your hands? What is scary is Obama is of the same ilk as Stalin and company. Layoutshooter
 

OntarioVanMan

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Nice thought but it did not work before, it is called isolationism. You once told me how your Canadian reletives still harbored ill feelings for the U.S. for not "getting into it" with Germany right from the start. We should have. We were wrong. I learned from history. Most have not. All those deaths, some estimets of over 100 million and we stood by and did nothing. Tell me, is it worth sitting on your hands? What is scary is Obama is of the same ilk as Stalin and company. Layoutshooter

Boy don't I know it...someone has to be the referee...or watchdog...enforcer....Its a fine line we tread...
I'll be interested in 2 years we can go thru the archives here and compare what is now perceived and what is....
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
There may not be any archives to read in two years. I am really worried about what I see going on both here and world wide. I am soooo happy I am not a kid. I don't want to live in the world I see coming. Layoutshooter
 

arrbsthw

Expert Expediter
Layout Shooter..you scare the begeezees out of me.
I do understand what you are saying and agree with you but
to actually have these things happen are scary to me.
God knows I hope it doesn't come to this. I do believe
Obama will be elected and it won't be long before we will
be attacked in our own country again. He is a weak
person and I fear his election.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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I believe no matter who is president we will be attacked again...terrorists don't care who's president...
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
They sure as he11 do care who's president! If there's a strong-willed president in, like Reagan, the number of attacks on our land lessen. I don't care for Bush, but putting them at the top of his agenda (sh*tlist), 9/11 was the only major thing that's happened on our soil. Clinton, on the other hand, had one attack at home, and two embassies, with only a couple of missiles lobbed in retaliation. Not to mention he let a gift wrapped Osama get away. If I were to plan a 9/11, I'd have done it under Clinton, as it would've proved how weak our leader was then.

There's a reason the world hates conservatives. Europe doesn't like us cause we're not feel good. USSR didn't like us cause Reagan stood firm. Terrorists don't like us cause we kill them. Liberals don't like us cause they're ignorant, and want us to be Europeans.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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They sure as he11 do care who's president! If there's a strong-willed president in, like Reagan, the number of attacks increase. I don't care for Bush, but putting them at the top of his agenda (sh*tlist), 9/11 was the only major thing that's happened on our soil. Clinton, on the other hand, had one attack at home, and two embassies, with only a couple of missiles lobbed in retaliation. Not to mention he let a gift wrapped Osama get away. If I were to plan a 9/11, I'd have done it under Clinton, as it would've proved how weak our leader was then.

There's a reason the world hates conservatives. Europe doesn't like us cause we're not feel good. USSR didn't like us cause Reagan stood firm. Terrorists don't like us cause we kill them. Liberals don't like us cause they're ignorant, and want us to be Europeans.

Bush only was voted in Nov....9/11 was only 10 months later...I'd have to say the attack was planned during the Clinton era. It was going to happen no matter who was elected...

I also think 9/11 was selected because of our 911 emergency system...every time someone says call 911 or sees it on their fridge magnet or teaches the kids how to call it's a reminder...Pysch warfare...
 

Tennesseahawk

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You're right. I'll go one step further, and state that the attack was planned for with Gore being president (so much for believing polls), and went ahead anyways.
 

OntarioVanMan

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You're right. I'll go one step further, and state that the attack was planned for with Gore being president (so much for believing polls), and went ahead anyways.

Terrorists watch polls???*LOL*

If they are watching now they are prolly drooling in anticipation!!
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Layout , i totally agree with you. I have prepped and cached ammo for yrs waiting for this time to come, and i really believe it is right around the corner. Obama will lead the sheeple by the nose ring right into government camps with them thinking he is still giving them their tax break.........

We will be in a police state very soon.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Yep, nothing like a good chache. The 9/11 attacks are a direct result of Clinton's cuts in the military and intell sevice. Like I said before, the last job I had in intell was counter-terrorism. First thing cut by Clinton. Why? VERY expensive work. Had to buy cigars for Monica. What a putz he is. I call 9/11 our return on the "Peace Dividend". I know that is not proper economic terms but you get my drift. I would have tried Clinton for treason, or murder of all those people in NY that day. At least I can say that it did not happen on my watch. I did my job and well. You all know the saying, it is very correct if Osama Obama is elected. Bend over, Grab your ankles and kiss your *ss good-bye. Layoutshooter
 
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