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This has been a very interesting thread. It went in complete circles getting away from the original subject and exploded into an argument that covered religion, politics and ROE during wartime. One thought I'd like to throw out about the original subject is that there are already several...

I'd really like to believe that but the history of the last 8 years makes me skeptical.

The father will win this one. Remember the case a few years ago where a mother suspected her daughter and boyfriend of being involved in something illegal so she listened in to a phone call between the two on a house extension, in her own home? The daughter sued her for violation of right to...

Court cases don't define the Amendment, they interpret it. That's how we have come to interpret the Constitution and the Amendments to it by using case law instead of using the Constitution. The 14th Amendment was solely meant to prevent southern States from deporting slaves once slavery was...

It also needs to be remembered that the 1st Amendment was a restriction on the Federal Government, like all of the Bill of Rights. This did not prevent State Governments from establishing, supporting, or suppressing religions in their respective States, in fact several of the States had State...

Sounds like the plot right out of Flight of the Intruder. Wonder where Coonts got his idea from? (I think I have the right author).

This is just what our current crop of politicians believe. They would just as soon burn the Constitution as to read it. They do not believe in the American Dream, they believe in personal power. HMMM sounds like a monarchy to me with all the little Dukes and Earls trying to outdo each other...

A couple of things to keep in mind with all this. First very few of the politicians in DC have ever run a business, or had to meet payday deadlines, or even been a manager at a business, they are career politicians, so they have no clue of what it takes to create jobs or produce a product...

I agree with you for the most part. The only part I disagree with is the if Democrat vote democrat, if Republican vote republican. That thinking has helped to lead to what we now have in DC. We need to stop voting along party lines and start voting for the best person for the job, that does...

20+ years ago when I was on submarines there would have been a pair of our own fast attack subs heading out to dog them until they left. Not anymore. So far I have heard no response from the White House on this. It's a sad state of affairs we are in now.