The federal-government can do most anything in this country

[chefdennis]

From his mouth to your ears....This is why there will be a harsh awaking in this country for alot of politicians.....as Thomas Jefferson said:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

That time is getting close when the politicians that we send to represent us, irregardless of the Constitutional limits put on them and in direct opposition to what the people have made known, feel they can do as they **** well please and to hell with the Constitution and the people.....

Breitbart.tv » Congressman at Town Hall: ‘The Federal Government Can Do Most Anything in This Country’

 

[LDB]

It's time they got a lesson, an extremely harsh lesson. Let's hope people aren't too stupid to do so in November.

 

[nightshift]

This is just what our current crop of politicians believe. They would just as soon burn the Constitution as to read it. They do not believe in the American Dream, they believe in personal power. HMMM sounds like a monarchy to me with all the little Dukes and Earls trying to outdo each other for the favor of the king.

 

[copdsux]

Are any of our resident conservative members surprised at yesterday primary results? It seems that "tea party" candidates didn't fare to well. Do you see this as a rejection of the ultra-right, or mainstream Republicans steering towards the middle?

I, even though a Democrat, was glad to see Kilpatrick(D-MI) get defeated.

 

[DaWhale]

Regardless of party affiliation, how many incumbents have lost races this year as opposed to years past? Factor in those elected officials who have decided not to run...

I've never been a supporter of the Tea Party movement, though philosophically I agree with a lot of their platform. There has been to great an emphasis, at least in my opinion to "take back" the Republican party. Others have been put off by Sarah Palin's ascendancy as spokesperson for the movement or the infighting for prominence across different tea party organizations.

Personally, I've supported the GOOOH movement, but the idea is so radical that most people don't believe that it has much of a chance to succeed.

Hard to judge what will happen, but I'm not expecting major changes. I think it's essential that major changes take place, just don't have much faith in the American voter.

 

[chefdennis]

If you look at the Reps that won, if they weren't an incumbent, they were the most liberal of those running...some seem to think it was both a slap at the right leaning conservatives (the tea party) and right leaning dems voting for the most liberal of the reps .....

 

[Pilgrim]

Are any of our resident conservative members surprised at yesterday primary results? It seems that "tea party" candidates didn't fare to well. Do you see this as a rejection of the ultra-right, or mainstream Republicans steering towards the middle?

Not really surprised - keep in mind that the Tea Party is still an "upstart" organization that in many instances is at odds with the establishment Republicans who have the money, name recognition, national party backing, etc. like Brownback and Blunt in MO. In instances like MO they may have to get behind a more centrist candidate to insure victory over more liberal Democrats.

However, IMHO their influence will be felt this Nov when hopefully they will join the GOP camp against the Democrats. By bringing voters into the tent who have previously been independant or altogether inactive, they could tip the scales to a significant degree toward the Republicans. They must not make the same mistake committed by the Perot backers in the early '90s by splitting the conservative vote.


Of course the liberals and their accomplices in the MSM have been in full counter-attack mode ever since the birth of the Tea Party movement. They will continue their attempt to label them as "fringe wackos" and radical right-wing nut cases. The fact is, there's nothing radical about the core principles of the Tea Party movement:

• Limited government
• Fiscal responsibility
• Personal responsibility
• Rule of law
• National sovereignty

The Obama backers are threatened by these fundamental principals upon which the country was founded and will never let up on the smear campaign. The Tea Party needs to counteract this by being more media savvy and promoting their positive mainstream values.

 

[witness23]

The Tea Party needs to counteract this by being more media savvy and promoting their positive mainstream values.

The only way their ideas will get out there without any negativity attached to them is to tell the Beck's, Limbaugh's, Levin's, Hannity's, Breitbart's and Palin's to stop endorsing them, pushing their agenda's, backing them and attaching themselves to their cause. Unless that happens it will be a lost cause.

 

[layoutshooter]

The only way their ideas will get out there without any negativity attached to them is to tell the Beck's, Limbaugh's, Levin's, Hannity's, Breitbart's and Palin's to stop endorsing them, pushing their agenda's, backing them and attaching themselves to their cause. Unless that happens it will be a lost cause.

Yep, just as the libtards are tied to that "other" press that is out there. Just as, for the most part, NONE of our politicians are worth the air they breathe, the same thing can be said of our goofy media people.

Of couse, Beck , Limbaugh etc are entertainers, they at least don't pretend to be "journalists" like the nightly news nerds do. Not that that makes them any better, just different, sort of. The nightly news nerds are far more entertainer than anything else. Just far far to the left. Obama bums to say the least.

Too bad we don't have a REAL INDEPENDENT FREE press with the stones to investigate this government FOR REAL!!

 

[witness23]

Yep, just as the libtards

You just proved my point layout. Your opening sentence which contained childish name calling totally made the rest of your story irrelevant.

 

[layoutshooter]

You just proved my point layout. Your opening sentence which contained childish name calling totally made the rest of your story irrelevant.

Yep and I like it that way. What story? I saw no story. What point? How did I prove it? Why should I care? I just return kind with kind any more.

People with my views are called names, ridiculed and made fun of by groups like the NAACP, anti-gun groups, baby killer groups etc etc etc. We are called "racist" for no other reason than we don't like policies that go against our Constitution. We are called "mean spirited" for thinking that personal responsibility is better than hand outs. ETC ETC ETC. I guess that's ok. Making fun is only bad if it does NOT agree with YOUR ideas. (not you personally, just people in general)

SO, if I want to act silly sometimes, I will. It is still a free country, at least until the "LIBTARDS" destroy it!!

 

[witness23]

What story? I saw no story

Post, statement, opinion, view, etc, etc, my point is, that it becomes irrelevant once you start with the childish name calling, you lose credibility when you lower yourself to that level. You stop any further discusion when you resort to that childish behaviour. But hey, if that's what you're going for, more power to ya.

 

[Pilgrim]

The only way their ideas will get out there without any negativity attached to them is to tell the Beck's, Limbaugh's, Levin's, Hannity's, Breitbart's and Palin's to stop endorsing them, pushing their agenda's, backing them and attaching themselves to their cause. Unless that happens it will be a lost cause.

The "negativity" to which you refer is only seen through the eyes of liberals. It is they, along with their accomplices in the MSM that continually attempt to portray those who promote the bedrock principles of conservatism in a negative light. The entertainers and politicians you mentioned above, along with Tea Partiers and Republicans in general need to continue to take their message directly to the public without it being filtered through the mainstream media. They will then see that conservative core beliefs are "positively" based on life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - not the nanny state of Obama socialism.

 

[layoutshooter]

Post, statement, opinion, view, etc, etc, my point is, that it becomes irrelevant once you start with the childish name calling, you lose credibility when you lower yourself to that level. You stop any further discusion when you resort to that childish behaviour. But hey, if that's what you're going for, more power to ya.

No different than when I am called a "Bambi Killer" (even though "Bambi" was, if he had even existed, a male red deer not native to North America) etc etc etc. I learned that lesson years ago. SO, I just ignore what ever I wish too.

I once had a co-worker, a real wacko, flaming anti-hunter. She ate tons of meat, literally, but as most hypocritical anti-hunters saw no wrong in eating meat. I tried to ignore her but she would butt into every conversation that those of us who hunted and fished had. Calling us names, ridiculing, making stupid statements about us having to "prove" our "manhood" by "killing". She NEVER killed. (must have eaten live cow, pigs etc) She was morally superior to us. She said so.

I tried to reason, explain human history, how man is a natural predator etc. A waste of time. After a year of this listening to her "stuff" I finally had enough. I just said, " You know, I kill deer because I got sick and tired of hearing them cry while I ate them"!!! "Besides, unless I skinned them I got hair in my mouth, I really HATE the taste of deer hair, rabbit hair is good, deer hair sucks" !!! She looked shocked!! Called me names, and NEVER said another word again. PEACE AND QUIET!! LOVELY!!

I bet she voted for Obama too.

 

[Pilgrim]

But they don't or won't do that on a scale to make a difference...where are they???

Au contraire - they very much ARE doing it on a scale large enough to make a difference. The entertainers / talk show hosts we mentioned have audiences far larger than their liberal counterparts. Many people are using alternative sources on the internet and cable TV for their information as opposed to blindly accepting the traditional MSM as purveyors of the gospel. Just look at the latest polls and the way they're trending; the generic vote for congress favors the GOP by six points according to RCP's average:

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Generic Congressional Vote

Obama's approval rating has sunk to 41% according to Gallup, and almost twice the number of people think the country is heading in the wrong direction as opposed to those who think things are OK (source: RealClearPolitics.com). Also notice the good people of MO convincingly approved the proposition to void ObamaCare, which happens to reflect the mood of the entire country.

The reason this message doesn't seem so loud and clear is that the MSM simply won't report it in that light, and the GOP doesn't have strong enough leadership right now to promote a clear set of principles and a strong campaign message. We can only hope that they will galvanize as they did in 1994 when the campaign season gets into full swing in late September - early October. If someone comes forward like Newt Gingrich did then to nationalize the congressional elections with a clear and easy to understand platform, the repudiation of the Democrats would be of historical proportions.

If a defeat of that magnitude comes to pass, it's safe to say that Obama is not going to move to the center like Clinton did to save his presidency. His continued domestic and foreign policy failures could easily cause him to be challenged and defeated in the 2012 Democrat primary - poetic justice for such a miserable leader.

 

[layoutshooter]

I never really believed that I would live to see a president (so called) that was more damaging to this Nation than Jimmy (I am afraid of rabbits) Carter, but I have. This thing we have in office is a disgrace. The very idea that we have a person who actually HATES our Country and Constitution, and is openly doing all within his power to destroy both, is beyond all belief.

 

[AMonger]

Are any of our resident conservative members surprised at yesterday primary results? It seems that "tea party" candidates didn't fare to well. Do you see this as a rejection of the ultra-right, or mainstream Republicans steering towards the middle?

I, even though a Democrat, was glad to see Kilpatrick(D-MI) get defeated.

Who is ultra right? Everybody has lurched waaaaay left so what used to be ultra left looks like the center now. I can't think of any national politician who could be called "on the right," let alone ULTRA-right.

 

[layoutshooter]

it looks more like dump the incumbent rather then the party...it is fairly mixed..out with the old, in with the new...

The, VOTE ALL THEM BUMS OUT, movement is gaining strength. It may be stronger than the Tea Party guys. I sure hope so.

As far as having a conservative or even an "ultra" conservative, what ever that is, when have we ever really had one? Not ONE conservative president in my lifetime.