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idtrans

Expert Expediter
Ok So when am I going to get weighed ? LOL I am starting to see anything said in here is like talking on the cb LOL
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Ok So when am I going to get weighed ? LOL I am starting to see anything said in here is like talking on the cb LOL

Yeah, it can be. Sometimes "super trucker" yahoos come in here talking about speed of light deliveries, never having to wait for a load...

It can funnier than anything that Seinfeld/David ever came up with.
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
Why should i get a gas engine model ? here is a nice diesel cutaway 2006 Chev G3500 Duramax 06 Cube Van I got him down to $10,500 I am seriously tossing it around as a back up truck for me. I have a duramax programmer to bump MPG up and its not a bad looking van at all.

That looks nice to me, I like that rear step/handles
I've been considering a van or cube van for loads/days my straight is not needed. You've got me thinking :eek:
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
'alot less hassle' said the man (or is it a woman now?) who has nothing BUT hassle (until he ditched the lemon at least) :p

I am a man, who said I was a woman? :p
Yes, that truck was a hassle, but I was able to get replacement and my downtime was minimal....still a big headache. I'm loving my new International BTW
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Ok So when am I going to get weighed ? LOL I am starting to see anything said in here is like talking on the cb LOL

Actually, whenever they choose to pick ya outa the crowd! You may choose to figgure, when you type something a bit stupid (like speaking on the CB), i'll prolly get my chops busted a bit. On the other hand if you read the message and UNDERSTAND it, there may be an educational opportunity in it for you. All at no cost.
 

dabluzman1

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I got audited one time on a lease purchase.The IRS said the key word was purchase.If you lease the truck,no buy out, then you can write the whole lease payment off,but if there is a buy out at end of lease,you can only write off depreciation and interest,so you may as well just buy the truck,and get the equity for your next truck That audit made aa believer out of me.The company that I had the deal with,lied thru their teeth.

I havent leased a CVM.
I have leased cars and equipment for business.
The thing I was informed about by an auditor was, if you have a dollar buy out lease, you are actually buying the car or equipment. If you deduct the full payment monthly it may not be allowed as virtually 100% of the item is being paid off over the contract.
A true lease with a 10% to 20% buyout option was preferred.
It would qualify for deducting 100% of the monthly payment each month.
The residual, if you were to exercise a buy option at the end of your lease would be treated as all capital buys and depreciated.
Could be the difference between a lease w option to buy or a contract called a "lease purchase".
This info is dated from early 2001. Maybe it has changed.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Yhe IRS gets "T" off with what they refer to as a "deferred purchase" where there is NO option to buy yhe vehcile but you MUST buy it at a contracted buyout that they feel is artifically low, the $1 dollar buyout....

To cover that aspect you have "Open" and "Closed" end leases. Open end, you agree to the residual figure that is set not to exceed 3 payments at the end of the lease, you can buy or walk away or buy. Closed end, the "Residual value guide" is used to set the buy out and you can, walk away or buy it.

The lease purchase is is strictly that, you lease it and must buy it per the contract. And artifically low buyout is the isue for the IRS, but $1 buyouts are still written.....
 

dabluzman1

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yhe IRS gets "T" off with what they refer to as a "deferred purchase" where there is NO option to buy yhe vehcile but you MUST buy it at a contracted buyout that they feel is artifically low, the $1 dollar buyout....

To cover that aspect you have "Open" and "Closed" end leases. Open end, you agree to the residual figure that is set not to exceed 3 payments at the end of the lease, you can buy or walk away or buy. Closed end, the "Residual value guide" is used to set the buy out and you can, walk away or buy it.

The lease purchase is is strictly that, you lease it and must buy it per the contract. And artifically low buyout is the isue for the IRS, but $1 buyouts are still written.....

I agree $1 buyouts are still written.
I am not so sure they would pass a tax audit.
Leases like buys are created according to the buying strength of the purchaser.
In the case of a $1 buyout, the purchaser would have a strong credit rating worthy of the bank holding 99.9% of the risk.
But even if the lease is written as a $1 buy out, that doesnt mean the IRS will agree it is a true business lease vs a purchase.
If I were to go that route for sure I would ask my accountant to verify which way would stand up to a tax audit.
 
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