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The final paragraph in the above article aptly summarizes the liberal speculation and pipe dreams articulated by its liberal author (emphasis mine):
You picked up on it, too. ;) He asked two questions in the headline (which is bad journalism to begin with) and then spends the entire article addressing the first question, and a whopping one paragraph addressing the second question... AND addressed it by essentially asking the the same question again.
 
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Well darn. I just keep following this along and not wanting to complicate the simple, I will just ask.
With all the links and madness Phil, are you wanting Trump impeached? It does beg the question at this point. And if so, what is your desired outcome?
 
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OMG, don't impeach him! The late night hosts are having too much fun. My only regret is that Johnny Carson isn't here to take advantage of all the great material from President Trump

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Ridicule is about all the libs have left at this point. After Hillary once again proved to be a miserable candidate, the Democrats have no credible leaders, no constructive ideas and no cohesive policy for dealing with either foreign or domestic problems now facing the country other than to veer farther towards socialism. The party is in shambles, looking completely foolish in their pathetic attempt to filibuster the confirmation of Judge Gorsuch and getting nuked by the tactic they introduced in the Senate.

Regarding Johnny Carson, I doubt he would be having to rely on Trump for much of his material. His political satire was delivered on a much higher level and pretty much spread around evenly. Comparing him to today's late night clowns is like comparing Babe Ruth to Tim Tebow.
 
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Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNN
Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNNPolitics.com
Trump needs to reign it in. I realize that conservatives have historically set the gold standard for hypocrisy, and liberals have only relatively recently learned to use hypocrisy effectively, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. There is no defending such frequent travel. Once a month can certainly be defended, but not nearly every weekend.
 

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Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNN
Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNNPolitics.com
Trump needs to reign it in. I realize that conservatives have historically set the gold standard for hypocrisy, and liberals have only relatively recently learned to use hypocrisy effectively, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. There is no defending such frequent travel. Once a month can certainly be defended, but not nearly every weekend.

Oddly, I haven't heard too much from the MSM on this. Maybe soon to come, but still pretty quiet so far.
 

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OMG, don't impeach him! The late night hosts are having too much fun. My only regret is that Johnny Carson isn't here to take advantage of all the great material from President Trump

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Hold on there big guy..Johnny was from Nebraska and I'm pretty sure he was a republican!
From Carson Wikipedia page....

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Carson opposed the Vietnam War,[40] and capital punishment, favored racial equality, and was against criminalizing extramarital sex and pornography. He avoided explicitly mentioning his views on The Tonight Show, saying he "hates to be pinned down", as that would "hurt me as an entertainer, which is what I am."[3] As he explained in 1970, "In my living room I would argue for liberalization of abortion laws, divorce laws, and there are times when I would like to express a view on the air. I would love to have taken on Billy Graham. But I'm on TV five nights a week; I have nothing to gain by it and everything to lose."[41] He also seldom invited political figures onto the Tonight Show because he "didn't want it to become a political forum" and did not want the show used, by himself or others, to influence the opinions of the viewers.[40]

In his book, Carson's former lawyer Henry Bushkin stated, he "was by instinct and upbringing definitely Republican, but of an Eisenhower sort that we don't see much of anymore.... Overall, you'd have to say he was anti-big: anti-big government, anti-big money, anti-big bullies, anti-big blowhards." Carson served as MC for Ronald Reagan's inauguration in 1981 at the request of Frank Sinatra.[42]
 

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Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNN
Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNNPolitics.com
Trump needs to reign it in. I realize that conservatives have historically set the gold standard for hypocrisy, and liberals have only relatively recently learned to use hypocrisy effectively, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. There is no defending such frequent travel. Once a month can certainly be defended, but not nearly every weekend.
Trump could and should travel to most of these destinations - especially his FL residence - on his own dime. He can afford it and it would set a good example for other wealthy political parasites who travel on the taxpayers' dime like Nancy Pelosi.
 

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Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNN
Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year - CNNPolitics.com
Trump needs to reign it in. I realize that conservatives have historically set the gold standard for hypocrisy, and liberals have only relatively recently learned to use hypocrisy effectively, but Trump has taken it to a whole new level. There is no defending such frequent travel. Once a month can certainly be defended, but not nearly every weekend.
Trump could and should travel to most of these destinations - especially his FL residence - on his own dime. He can afford it and it would set a good example for other wealthy political parasites who travel on the taxpayers' dime like Nancy Pelosi.
It averages out to roughly $250,000. per day of his 4 year presidency, not including Melania's protection and her stays in New York.
 

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His salary (if he kept it) would cover a little less than two days worth of his travel expenses. :D
 

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Oddly, I haven't heard too much from the MSM on this. Maybe soon to come, but still pretty quiet so far.
It's around the edges. CNN isn't talking about it much (tho they are now), but WaPo and NYT are all over it, nearly on a daily basis. Of course, the left-leaning websites have been screaming about his travel expenses ever since his limo ride at the Inauguration. Over the last 3 months, about twice a month an article on it will pop up at TheHill, places like that.
 
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Well darn. I just keep following this along and not wanting to complicate the simple, I will just ask.
With all the links and madness Phil, are you wanting Trump impeached? It does beg the question at this point. And if so, what is your desired outcome?

Great questions!

Do I want Trump impeached? I don't care one way or the other. However, I must admit a certain bias for that outcome, not because I want him to be impeached, not because I want one party or the other to win or lose, not because I identify with or favor another political figure; but because I predicted Trump will be impeached and I'd like to be right about that.

This prediction and discussion is a game to me. I was once intensely politically involved for 10 full years. While it was a great run with no small political effect, Diane and I left that career to become expediters after determining that politics will rot your soul if you stay in it too long.

After 10 years on the road, we sold the truck and got into the fitness business where we work today. There are parts of trucking we miss. We enjoy the occasional road trip and trucking magazine article because it brings good memories back. So too with politics. My prediction and this discussion is a political road trip, so to speak. It's something fun to do but is not a serious part of our lives today.

Long before we were truckers or professional political operatives, I worked full time as an auto mechanic. When I became a trucker, I enjoyed maintaining and repairing our truck. Even today, when common sense says it is a better use of my time to put one of our cars in the shop, I'll still make the occasional repair because I like doing it; and I especially like knowing I still have the touch.

My prediction that Trump will be impeached is a self test. As I did back when I was fully engaged in politics, I recently surveyed the lay of the land and came to believe certain things. In this case, I came to believe that Trump will be impeached. I shared the prediction publicly to have fun discussing it, put myself on record as the predictor, and see if I still have the touch.

When I founded a new political party in Minnesota, I correctly believed it could rise to major party status. When that party fielded a candidate for governor, I correctly believed he could win. When I volunteered to to be the internet strategist for that candidate, I correctly believed I could have an impact (one that was recognized worldwide, it turned out), even though I had never been an internet strategist before.

This prediction that Trump will be impeached has nothing more behind it than my desire to see if I still have the touch. My primary focus is our fitness business. My posts here are nothing more than road trips I take for the enjoyment they provide.

Where you see madness, I experience joy. The desired outcome has nothing to do with what transpires in Washington. The desired outcome is realized every time I pop in here. It does not matter to me if Trump is impeached or not. This is a road trip that is satisfying now.
 
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Looks like he might be on his way out. Like oil and water with other members of the administration.
Bannon is more loyal to Bannon and his own political ideology than he is to Trump. Bannon and Trump have the same goals in many issues, but the difference is in how they want to accomplish those goals. Trump wants to negotiate deals to get what he wants, so that both sides get something they can live with. Bannon wants to accomplish the same goals but he wants to deconstruct government to attain them, and f*** the other side if they don't like it. That's going to be, and it's already becoming, a problem for Bannon.
 
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All administrations have their share of intra-staff drama and the ongoing media obsession with palace intrigue. All staffs reflect and/or take on the personality of the president. Trump has a high tolerance for what many call chaos. In business and in the White House, he creates rival power centers, each of which reports to him.

If Bannon goes, the rival power centers will continue because that's how Trump rolls. That leadership style can work when you are running a corporation and making deals that are simple compared to the deals a U.S. President may try to make. In public life, with any given deal, the president has dozens of additional stakeholders to deal with who appear whether they are invited or not. Trump has no control over who gets to enter the game. It's not like it was for him in business where a place at the table was granted by invitation only.

When he took office, Trump had no experience as an elected official. It shows.

Today's Trump quote provides a perfect example. Regarding NATO, he said, "It was once obsolete, it is no longer obsolete."

Also see this: 10 Ways Donald Trump Has Already Reversed Course
 
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Also in today's news:

"President Trump is abandoning a number of his key campaign promises on economic policy, adopting instead many of the centrist positions he railed against while campaigning as a populist." (Source)
 

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At this point watching Trump's people, any are replaceable. As strange as it seems, I believe that is a good thing at this point.
 
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