RLENT
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A veritable beat down ...
Hopefully the good judge will drop the hammer and sanction the lawyers as well.
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A veritable beat down ...
Hopefully the good judge will drop the hammer and sanction the lawyers as well.
That would really set off the wackos and their orange master.
Are these the same attorneys who were ridiculed and given no chance of success for their filing for a special master in the first place? There's no doubt that they and anyone else with a pulse anticipated this move in addition to the appeal of Judge Cannon's ruling in favor of appointing the special master. It could be that the courts - including the 11th Circuit - will take into consideration this DOJ's strong political bias against Trump and decide there's nothing wrong with an objective third party reviewing paperwork and looking into their activities to make sure there's no skulduggery going on with the documents they may or may not have found in their Mar-a-Lago raid. It's not like this DOJ/FBI cabal has a spotless reputation for honesty and integrity, especially when it comes to Trump or his supporters.
Maybe it's best to sit back and see how this process plays out. Since these decisions could effect past and/or future Presidents, this case will very likely to go all the way to SCOTUS.
5 Times The Anti-Trump FBI's 'Trust Us' Promise Fell Apart
After the lies exposed during SpyGate, the DOJ and FBI’s current entreat to an angry public to 'trust them' will be rightly ignored.
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36 percent of Dems voted to confirm. Pesky facts.When the (literal) idiots of the nation band together and help to elect a corrupt, narcissistic, grifting, criminal moron to the Presidency, this can be what you get in terms of "only the Best People" nominated for Federal Judgeships:
Is that the same Peter Strzok that got fired by the FBI? Maybe he should sit this one out.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Well when you elect a liberal Democrat so stupid that his son is caught doing drugs and having sex with hookers......When the (literal) idiots of the nation band together and help to elect a corrupt, narcissistic, grifting, criminal moron to the Presidency, this can be what you get in terms of "only the Best People" nominated for Federal Judgeships:
Yes, these are the same attorneys who were ridiculed.
No, they were not given no chance of success. The "hand-picked-judge" aspect of this case (believed by many Trump critics) led many to believe the Trump attorney's had a high chance of success. It's kinda hard to not believe that when the judge herself officially announced her "preliminary intent" to rule in Trump's favor before she even saw the DOJ response.
Correct. An appeal was expected by almost everyone regardless of how the judge ruled. What was not anticipated was the astoundingly indefensible ruling the judge made. Her ruling was widely panned by numerous legal experts, including some who once worked for Trump.
Yes, it could be that the courts will take into consideration the factors you cite.
It could also be that the court of appeals will give no concern whatsoever to the reputational damage Judge Cannon talked about, consider the fact that Trump was caught red-handed with property that was not his to have, and caught red-handed with classified documents which presented grave risks to national security by being haphazardly kept at a beach resort, and caught with this evidence via a search legally done under a properly issued warrant. It could be the court of appeals will zero in on the utterly fatal flaws of Cannon's ruling and overturn her.
About that reputational damage, that's a hard case to make since Trump himself has been doing everything he can to tell everyone in the world about the search and its results.
Correct. The FBI is not without sin.
What else can we do at our level? We're ordinary citizens watching this from afar.
Also true.
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Her decision was widely panned by mostly Leftist Law professors and hack former Prosecutors. The critic of the judge, that used to work for Trump is none other than disgruntled former employee(fired), current book seller, and former toady(Leftist description) Bill Barr. But now he is the Left’s bestist buddy.
The documents, that were kept in a storage area at the “beach resort” had 24 hour secret service protection.
The documents, that were kept in a storage area at the “beach resort” had 24 hour secret service protection.
The Classification Question in Court Yesterday
As mentioned above, I'm keeping a close eye on what is said about the classified documents in Judge Cannon's court. Having read the joint filing joint filing presented to the Judge today, this comment on Twitter seems to sum things up nicely.
"Trump's team does not suggest the classified documents have been declassified by Trump, but does say that that classification status should not be presume." (Source)
Trump continues to avoid the question in court. The question is plain. Did Trump declassify the documents or not? In public, he frequently claims he did. But in court, he will not say.
As mentioned above, I'm keeping a close eye on what is said about the classified documents in Judge Cannon's court. Having read the joint filing joint filing presented to the Judge today, this comment on Twitter seems to sum things up nicely.
"Trump's team does not suggest the classified documents have been declassified by Trump, but does say that that classification status should not be presume." (Source)
Trump continues to avoid the question in court. The question is plain. Did Trump declassify the documents or not? In public, he frequently claims he did. But in court, he will not say.
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For the most part, all we know about the papers, classifications, the sloppy staged photo, etc is what's been released or leaked by the DOJ. The same DOJ that told us for three years that Trump was colluding with Russia. The same FBI that interfered with a presidential election by collaborating with media like Facebook and tamping down the Hunter Biden laptop investigation at a critical time during the campaign. In other words, their credibility leaves something to be desired. There must be a good reason they don't want a special master looking into what they're doing in the Mar-a-Lago process.
danthewolf00
Veteran Expediter
Other than the good reasons DOJ has openly cited in its court filings, is there another "good reason." that you know about but the general public does not? What exactly are you getting at when you speculate about a "good reason?"
We also know a court agreed probable cause existed to believe three crimes have been committed that warranted the legal search of Mar-a-Lago and the legal seizure of the materials listed on inventories later released.
It was not illegal for the FBI to seize what the seized. If executive privilege or attorney client privilege is later found to apply to some or all of these materials, they cannot be used for investigation or prosecution purposes. But the FBI was fully authorized by the search warrant to seize the materials they did.
That is a significant court ruling. Much rides on this beyond this court. I'm surprised there has been no loud talk yet of appeal.
Likely not true and meaningless even if it was. Top secret documents are not kept in people's desk drawers when the desk owner is away months at a time; or, for that matter, even when the desk owner is present.
Just three documents were in his desk drawer where he works. The other documents were all in the storage area. Doesn’t look like there was an attempt to hide documents.
danthewolf00
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Wonder what 3 documents they "found" in the desk.
Declassified crossfire hurricane “intelligence” ops most likely.
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Trump seems to have a leave a lot of disgruntled former employees in his wake....