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Uhm, Cohen wasn't convicted of failing to report hush money.
Cohen pled guilty to, and was thus convicted of, “causing an unlawful corporate contribution” to a federal campaign. Prosecutors alleged that Cohen “caused” AMI’s (National Enquirer publisher) $150,000 payment to Karen McDougal, and that that violated the law because it was effectively a campaign contribution for Trump, in excess of the legal limit on what a corporation like AMI is permitted to give to a campaign.
Also, Cohen made an “excessive campaign contribution” himself, by paying $130,000 to Stormy Daniels. This, too, prosecutors allege, was effectively a campaign contribution for Trump above what Cohen was permitted to give.
Unlawful corporate contributions and excessive personal campaign contributions are in fact, illegal. Prosecutors alleged that the payments to McDougal and Daniels were campaign contributions, and therefore illegal. Cohen pled guilty to those crimes. If Trump had not been running for president, there would have been no prosecution for those transactions, because those transactions are not illegal.
The FEC has ruled that the payments to McDougal and Daniels were not campaign contributions, so Cohen needlessly pled guilty to crimes that, as it turns out, weren't crimes.
Or, almost as famously, prosecutors led by Mueller pitbull Andrew Weissmann twisted the law and used novel interpretations to literally invent crimes that they then used to prosecute those involved in ENRON and at Arthur Andersen. As "the architect of the case against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort," Andrew Weissmann did much the same thing. In the case of ENRON and Andersen, SCOTUS ended up reversing the convictions, because they were literally for non-crimes.
Giving money to someone so they wouldn't divulge an affair isn't a crime. And their reasoning that it will influence an election by keeping it quiet is only a crime in the mind of leftist prosecutors out to get Trump. The Logan Act and FARA are two " crimes" that come to mind. They're only persued against Trump and his associates. They aren't used against anyone else. So it's a selective enforcement of non existent crimes.
That's not how justice is supposed to be applied. Hunter Biden apparently committed multiple FARA violations but he hasn't been charged. Andrew McCabe lied multiple times to investigators but wasn't charged. Yet a DC judge (Sullivan) took the role as a prosecutor in an attempt to keep a case against Michael Flynn alive that should have been dropped Attorney Clinesmith altered documents but didn't see a day of jail time.
Two standards of justice. DC and NY prosecutors feel emboldened to selectively go after Trump and his associates because they exist in a deep blue bubble alongside Left activist prosecutors and judges that willingly assist them. As well as the luxury of tapping into deep blue and anti Trump voting areas to summon to be on their Grand Juries if need be. Very little if any checks and balances for rogue prosecutorial abuse.
That's not how justice is supposed to be applied. Hunter Biden apparently committed multiple FARA violations but he hasn't been charged. Andrew McCabe lied multiple times to investigators but wasn't charged. Yet a DC judge (Sullivan) took the role as a prosecutor in an attempt to keep a case against Michael Flynn alive that should have been dropped Attorney Clinesmith altered documents but didn't see a day of jail time.
Two standards of justice. DC and NY prosecutors feel emboldened to selectively go after Trump and his associates because they exist in a deep blue bubble alongside Left activist prosecutors and judges that willingly assist them. As well as the luxury of tapping into deep blue and anti Trump voting areas to summon to be on their Grand Juries if need be. Very little if any checks and balances for rogue prosecutorial abuse.
Yea, right. Cohen, and attorney, just went ahead and needlessly plead guilty. Like he had nothing better to do than get convicted? Like he plead guilty because he thought it would be fun? Like he needlessly purchased an additional sport coat, while not needed, a new conviction would be nice to have?
I don't have time to dig into FARA prosecution history and provide you specific examples, but I believe people other than Trump supporters have been charged with FARA crimes.
No, the FEC has not "ruled that the payments to McDougal and Daniels were not campaign contributions." They did not rule on that question at all. They simply deadlocked and thereby did not pursue the case.
Pled guilty to that phony crime so he could have leniency for some other things he was charged with.
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It's rare. It's apparently remedied by being warned to register and/or to pay a fine. Unless you're a Trump associate. Then they will raid your home predawn.
Targeted by the Obama Adminstration, which included Biden who hatched a plan to go after him for the Logan Act. I said THE LOGAN ACT. Lol. Apparently his crime was to take a phone call from a Russian government agent and asked him to have his government just chill until the Trump Administration took over.
Railroaded by Mueller's angry Democrat team who didn't provide exculpatory evidence and then was prosecuted by the Judge overseeing his case when the other prosecutors dropped the case because there wasn't any evidence.
Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Claims Made By Mueller
Declassified Flynn transcripts released on Friday contradict key claims made against Flynn by former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
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I can't speak to his motivations, but "If you plead guilty to this, this and this, we won't even charge you for that, that, and that."
Thus making it necessary. A forced choice between a lighter sentence and a heavier one.
That's one way to spin it. The fact is, the question of Flynn's innocence or guilt was left unanswered when he accepted Trump's pardon (notwithstanding his original guilty plea). The pardon interrupted the court proceedings then underway. One could say you must admit guilt to accept a pardon so Flynn is indeed guilty. Others would say the pardon was necessary to short-circuit a miscarriage of justice then underway. Either way, the question of Flynn's innocence or guilt was never fully adjudicated in court.Targeted by the Obama Adminstration, which included Biden who hatched a plan to go after him for the Logan Act. I said THE LOGAN ACT. Lol. Apparently his crime was to take a phone call from a Russian government agent and asked him to have his government just chill until the Trump Administration took over.
Railroaded by Mueller's angry Democrat team who didn't provide exculpatory evidence and then was prosecuted by the Judge overseeing his case when the other prosecutors dropped the case because there wasn't any evidence.
Declassified Flynn Transcripts Contradict Key Claims Made By Mueller
Declassified Flynn transcripts released on Friday contradict key claims made against Flynn by former Special Counsel Robert Mueller.
On another matter, Flynn "... called on the president to 'exercise the Extraordinary Powers of his office and declare limited Martial Law to temporarily suspend the Constitution and civilian control of these federal elections in order to have the military implement a national re-vote that reflects the true will of the people.'" (Wikipedia)
What are your thoughts about that? At the time, did you back his call for "limited Martial Law?"
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Kind of hard to spin documented evidence in their own writing of notes. It specifically said Biden (in the meeting) brought up the Logan Act. There were also notes from investigators of Flynn that said they didn't see any deception from him. Exculpatory evidence like that wasn't revealed to his previous defense attorneys. The Obama administration most certainly "went after" Flynn to derail him from being in the Trump Administration. He had fired him in his Whitehouse and didn't like him and reportedly told Trump not to hire him. Then you had a rogue judge that ignored the exculpatory evidence and didn't drop the case even though there were no longer prosecutors to try the case.
I'm not a big fan of Martial Law. Are you? Would you be against it always?
How about if there was a two week Martial Law at the beginning of this virus and total lockdown? Would you be against it if they said it would eliminate most of the virus?
This is what Flynn said about Martial Law.
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The only time the Democrat leadership is against marital law is if a Republican wants it to stop riots and destruction......BUT if they want it's just fine....look at dc where they finally let the last of the national guard go home....
You mean the national guard that had to be called in because the former president tried to whip up his minions so that he could remain in power even though he lost the election?
But im with you on the rioting, send in the guard and let them take care of the problem, when people are dying because they showed up to riot, maybe they will think twice.