The BDS Thread (Boycott, Divestment, & Sanctions)

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Another convert to BDS - one with a platform from which to speak - as the wheels continue to come off the Zionist project in the Middle East:

Boycott Israel
Because it’s the right thing to do
by Justin Raimondo, December 18, 2013

My regular readers may recall one of my more controversial columns, wherein I made the case against boycotting Israel: my argument was essentially that a boycott in this case would be unjust, since many Israelis disagree with the state-enforced racist policies of the current government and it would be unfair to make them suffer for the actions of a state gone rogue.

The basis of my argument was that boycotts of this nature are essentially inimical to libertarianism, which places the individual, and not collective entities like states, at the center of its worldview. Furthermore, this view was bolstered by my stance in favor of Israeli statehood: the Israeli people, I argued, have a right to national self-determination, just like all other peoples. Why single them out, I averred, in a world where states routinely violate rights?

Yet what happens when a state singles itself out by engaging in behavior so egregiously oppressive, so repulsive to the civilized world, that dealing with it in any shape, form, or manner is morally problematic? Israel has reached that point – a tipping point, as Chemi Shalev puts it – as increasing numbers of people the world over reach that conclusion

I changed my mind about the BDS (boycott, divest, and sanction) movement aimed at Israel when I read Max Blumenthal’s Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel, a book that tears the veil of hasbara off the Jewish state and reveals the crude racism that energizes its policies, both foreign and domestic. The idea that state funds are being used to build "Jews only" housing, roads, and entire communities – and that this is accepted as normal, even beneficial, by Israel’s ostensible "liberals" – is an international outrage. That it is being done with US taxpayer dollars and diplomatic support is unspeakable.

So why not just call for ending US government "aid"? After all, if these exclusivist policies were being pursued with private funding, libertarians – who uphold the right of individuals to associate with whom they please – could have no principled objection to it. Right?

Wrong. Libertarianism is not an ethical stance: it doesn’t tell us how to live, only that we should be free to live without coercion. So, yes, in a libertarian society, setting up racially or religiously-segregated communities would be legal – but would it be moral? Libertarianism has no answer to that question: I, however, have my own personal answer, and it is an emphatic no. In a libertarian world, furthermore, the only recourse I would have in protesting these practices would be an economic boycott. So clearly boycotts are not un-libertarian per se.

Yes, all nations have the right to self-determination, and Israel should be no exception. There are, however, grave problems in the case of the Jewish state, one of which was raised by the great Zionist scholar and philosopher Yeshayahu Leibowitz, who said it isn’t at all clear anymore who or what are "the Jewish people." Indeed, this trenchant moralist and one of the seminal intellectual figures among the founding generation predicted the conundrum facing the Jewish state after the 1967 war, when Israel took the occupied territories and placed itself in charge of the destiny of millions of Palestinians. The authorities, he said, would be forced to set up a police state, and, furthermore, would have to enforce an ethno-religious caste system that would become increasingly unsustainable. His prescient observation is now encoded in Israeli law, in a thousand regulations that accord Arab citizens of Israel second class status. When it comes to the question of Jewish nationality versus Israeli citizenship, the legal dilemma of Zionist jurisprudence was underscored in a recent court case in which the judges were very specific on this sensitive subject.

The Israeli Supreme Court recently ruled there is no such thing as "Israeli" nationality, and that to even recognize such a concept would involve invalidating Israel’s status as the Jewish state. The court averred:

"[A] person cannot belong to two nations. If Israeli nationality is recognized, members of the Jewish nation in Israel will have to choose between the two. Are they Israelis? Then they will not be Jews. Or are they Jews? Then they cannot be Israelis. This also applies to the minority populations."

The judges’ decision, against allowing the word "Israeli" in the slot reserved for "nationality" on official ID cards, in effect institutionalized the distinction between citizenship and nationality, and ratified the privileging of the latter over the former.

This is crazy, not to mention headache-producing. If there are no Israelis, then what legitimacy does the Israeli state possess?

The fanatics in charge of the current government legitimize their policies in the name of preserving the integrity of the Zionist project, which specifically calls for building a Jewish state, not just any old state, on the land we call Israel. This was less problematic before 1967: today, as professor Leibowitz foretold with his characteristically magisterial truculence, the moral and political degeneration of the post-’67 Zionist project has ushered in what he called "Judeo-Nazism." Leibowitz feared the advent of an era in which the authorities, following the logic of their exclusivist and expansionist policies, would be forced to construct "concentration camps" to contain the Arab insurgency – in which case, he said, "Israel would not deserve to exist, and it will not be worthwhile to preserve it."

Speaking of which: what is Gaza but history’s biggest concentration camp?

What Leibowitz’s critique of the Jewish state implies is that the right of national self-determination is not unlimited, because it is not primary: it is derived from the rights of all individuals to choose their own form of government. If that fundamental right is violated – as is being done in the case of the Palestinians – then one cannot rationalize that violation by invoking a subsidiary right.

Yes, Israel has the right to exist – but that right is dependent on the behavior of the self-proclaimed Jewish state.

Israel's defenders argue that Gaza is a deadly threat to the nation's security and the Israelis have every right to periodically pulverize that isolated slum, killing women and children as well as Hamas fighters, "in self-defense." Yet the government’s perpetual war against the indigenous Arab population has inevitably extended to Israeli citizens of Arab descent, who look so much like their oppressors that huge walls have been constructed around "minority" communities to keep the population contained. Israeli law has encoded – and the Supreme Court has all too often upheld – discriminatory practices by the state against its own citizens based on nothing but ethnicity.

This what that otherwise baffling Supreme Court decision over "nationality" versus "citizenship" is really all about. In order to exclude Arabs and privilege Jews, the Supreme Court was forced to deny the very existence of an Israeli nationality – in order to defend the ideological foundations of systematic state-enforced segregation and the creation of an ethnic caste system.

Imagine if some government had an official policy of descending on Jewish communities with bulldozers after seizing Jewish-owned property and forcing the occupants out. We'd never hear the end of it, would we? And rightfully so. There wouldn’t be any argument about whether or not to rebuke the government and isolate the country involved. Why, when the positions are reversed, and it is the government of Israel – the self-proclaimed "Jewish state" – committing these crimes, is a boycott suddenly controversial?

But all of this was perfectly true before I changed my position on BDS, so what’s different now? Yes, I’m reading the minds of some of my regular readers, which I try to do in my efforts to both enlighten and entertain them, and so I’m forced to admit that, yes, this is true. I plead ignorance, however, of conditions on the ground, which Blumenthal’s very readable and informative book filled me in on. The extent to which hatred of Arabs pervades every level of Israeli society and dominates even the most "enlightened" circles is shocking.

Since I'm one of those libertarianism-in-one-country guys who pretty much confine themselves to arguing against US intervention abroad in terms of how it damages American interests and undermines our own system of theoretically limited government, I frankly don’t pay much attention to the internal arrangements of foreign countries. In writing about the relations between countries, I’ve found that their behavior on the world stage – aggressive, pacific, mercantile or militarist – has little if anything to do with the political character of the state: a liberal democracy is just as likely to get in the business of empire as a totalitarian regime.

In addition to the Blumenthal book, what really changed my mind on the BDS question were some of the arguments against it. In a jeremiad directed at the American Studies Association, which recently joined a growing number of academic groups worldwide in endorsing the boycott, Jeffrey Goldberg writes:

"Is it a coincidence that these academics are singling out the world's only Jewish-majority country for boycott? Only to those who know nothing of the history of anti-Semitic scapegoating. This is not to say that [American Studies Association President] Professor Marez and his colleagues are personally anti-Semitic. Larry Summers, a past president of Harvard University, told Charlie Rose that he
considers boycotts of Israel 'anti-Semitic in their effect if not necessarily in their intent.'"

Aside from the presumed relevance of Larry Summers’ reiteration of the Stalinist argument against Trotsky – that he was "objectively" counterrevolutionary, and therefore Stalin was quite justified in having that ice pick implanted in his forehead – one has to ask whether Israel has singled itself out.

In what other country on earth is housing allocated on a purely ethnic basis? Tell me where else certain roads are reserved for those who can prove their adherence to the "right" religious affiliation on a state-issued identification card? Where else do full-fledged citizens of a country suffer de facto internment in ghettoes on account of their official 'nationality"? And, pray tell, what other supreme judicial authority in which country denies that citizenship confers nationality – and even goes so far as to deny its own national identity in an effort to preserve the purity of the state’s ethnic character?

Israel may be the only country in the world with a Jewish majority population, as Goldberg observes, but this is likely to be a transient phenomenon unless the Israeli government’s policy of ethnic cleansing and de facto population transfer undergoes a dramatic escalation. Indeed, the demographic time-bomb incubating in the very heart of the Jewish state has long been recognized by Israeli policymakers as the principal threat to the Zionist enterprise: the result has been, as Leibowitz predicted, the arrival on the scene of that oxymoronic figure, the "Judeo-Nazi."

When I first heard this expression, my reaction was that it was a bit of an overstatement. After all, the Israelis aren’t herding Arabs into gas chambers. Yet that doesn’t mean there is no such creature. Blumenthal documents their existence – and growing power – in his book, with some shocking interviews with far-right politicians and the more "mainstream" ones who are being pressured into echoing the growing extremism that has infected the Israeli body politic.

I support the BDS concept, although I’ll refrain from endorsing any particular organization or campaign, precisely because I don’t believe Israel is a hopeless cause. Professor Leibowitz has departed this world, and so I can't ask him, I can only extrapolate from his Casssandra-like warnings of what Israel could and would become if it didn't divide the land and give Palestinians their own state. I think there is a good chance a successful BDS campaign could make the Israelis change their behavior, and that in itself makes it worthwhile.

Just so there's no confusion: I understand there's a campaign to boycott only products made in the occupied territories, and that some activists, such as the writer Peter Beinart, support this limited boycott. Aside from its limited effectiveness, this makes no sense. What is needed is a complete and total embargo – privately enforced, mind you – on Israeli goods and services, including a boycott on travel to Israel. Most importantly, activists should target US aid to Israel, linking it to a prohibition on discriminatory legislation and policies.

The international do-gooder crowd is perpetually calling for US intervention, military or diplomatic, on behalf of supposedly oppressed peoples from Syria to Tibet, but this time – for once! – instead of calling on us to bomb a country they're just asking us to boycott it. This is a refreshing change of pace and I want to do everything I can to encourage it.

Boycott Israel by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com
 
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RLENT

Veteran Expediter
The Tzip gets it ... somewhat ... sorta ...

Justice Minister Tzipi Livni said Israel was burying its head in the sand in regards to the consequences of the dispute with the Palestinians.

"I want to talk about 'the bubble,'" she said. "Not the financial bubble and not the real estate bubble, but the bubble that we're living in. An entire country that is disconnected from the international reality." ...

The minister said that despite being in financial conferences and poverty committees, those issues "have no significance if they ignore the conflict. The Palestinian conflict is the glass ceiling of Israel's economy."

She warned that the international financial and economic boycott started with the West Bank, but over time it will flow in to the rest of the country.

"It won't end there. The boycott is moving and advancing uniformly and exponentially," Livni said. "Those who don't want to see it, will end up feeling it." ...
Livni: We're living in bubble, disconnected from world - Israel News, Ynetnews
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
I remember the Rlent who used to talk about liberty in America. Is Palestinian martyrdom the new "thang?"
Not hardly ... Israel-Palestine is just something I'm interested in from several perspectives:

1. The Middle East represents a possible flashpoint (one of several around the world) that has the potential to get real ugly and suck us into another war in real short order. Obviously, that probably wouldn't be a good thing.

2. Israel, is a driving force re: no. 1 above (check out the current Iranian sanctions bill that is being pushed entirely at AIPAC's request - it now has 50 supporters - and will likely kill the prospect of resolving the Iranian nuclear issue if passed) ... and our support for Israel problematic for us as a nation, in terms of foreign policy and international relations.

3. I have, over the last year or so, managed to become somewhat more educated about the Israel-Palestine conflict - far more than I was before ... enough to be very disturbed by what I now know. The Palestinians have gotten a royal screwing ... ever since 1948. Non-interventionism does not require that individuals have no stand or take no actions with regard to foreign issues.

4. I have always held the view that liberty and human rights are universal (apply to all people) - they aren't just something for "America" ... and in any event, at this point in my life, I'm not, in many ways, a terribly nationalistic person.

Finally: I remember the Tennesseahawk who used to talk about liberty in America. Is silence the new thang ?

Perhaps rather than derogating me for my advocacy on what I see as a terrible injustice, perhaps you could find a cause of your own to focus your energies and efforts on ... ;)
 

Maverick

Seasoned Expediter
I remember the Rlent who used to talk about liberty in America. Is Palestinian martyrdom the new "thang?

Perhaps it extends from a dislike of what Israel supposedly stands for?

As recorded by Flavius Josephus during the fall of Jerusalem 70 AD....all Christians escaped that siege, and consequent slaughter/capture of the Jews. Upon seeing the city encompassed by Roman armies, they obeyed Christ's warning and fled to the nearby city of Pella (now known as Tabaqat Fahil, located NW of Amman, Jordon)

Titus then fulfilled the remainder of Christ's prediction by leveling the city and killing near all of it's inhabitants, taking a handful (by comparison) of remaining prisoners back to Rome to serve as slaves. There seems no historical account, whereby Jews in any significant number, fled in mass to anywhere. All who rebelled against Rome were hunted down, with the culmination being the battle at Masada, where the last vestiges were destroyed by their own hand.

Thus fulfilling Christ's words of "you're house is left unto you desolate." Simply meaning....what favor you once had, and your special treatment, is over. You will now follow the New Covenant, just like the Gentiles. There are no special people over there, period. And there is one reason, and one reason only, for "laws" against saying anything derogatory, or denying this or that, about a certain group of people.

I seriously doubt it....but if anyone cares to read Matt:23 13-39, you'll see what Christ had to say to those religious people who didn't pay attention. No doubt, He would be in the face of these modern teachers as well. You want to dislike modern Israel for the Palestinian debacle, fine. But if you mistakenly believe it's the actual people who follow Christ's teachings backing them, you're wrong.

We fled that city, long ago.....and as commanded. :)
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
Perhaps it extends from a dislike of what Israel supposedly stands for?
My issues with Israel extend from a dislike of what is actually happening on the ground - at the hands of Zionist Israelis. And what the Zionist Israelis (and any fellow travelers, irrespective of their particular faith) are doing to my country to enable it.

There are no special people over there, period.
I would only offer the following comment:

If you are speaking in the context of no people being more special than another, then yes - I would agree.

But I would also say that every person is special.

No doubt, He would be in the face of these modern teachers as well.
If you are referring to "modern teachers" of the what currently passes for the "Christian faith" in some quarters, then I have no doubt whatsoever (of the truth you speak in the quote immediately above)

You want to dislike modern Israel for the Palestinian debacle, fine.
It isn't only for the Palestinian debacle - because what is going on over there has a much wider implication than just the Palestinians ultimately.

But if you mistakenly believe it's the actual people who follow Christ's teachings backing them, you're wrong.
I would hope I would never be so misguided and deluded to ever believe such a thing.

... by their fruits ...
 

Maverick

Seasoned Expediter
My issues with Israel extend from a dislike of what is actually happening on the ground - at the hands of Zionist Israelis. And what the Zionist Israelis (and any fellow travelers, irrespective of their particular faith) are doing to my country to enable it.

You have a good point there. It's the age old question...."who is cuddling up, and for what reason?" They have deftly used the religious right in this country under pretenses which scripture renders as wrong.

I would only offer the following comment:

If you are speaking in the context of no people being more special than another, then yes - I would agree.

But I would also say that every person is special.

Right again IMV. Every life is precious, and no human should ever be ruling or warring with another. Plenty of blame all the way around for that one. It's world wide, pernicious in nature, and ongoing.


If you are referring to "modern teachers" of the what currently passes for the "Christian faith" in some quarters, then I have no doubt whatsoever (of the truth you speak in the quote immediately above

Thank You for not lumping us all together. Breath of fresh air, that one.

It isn't only for the Palestinian debacle - because what is going on over there has a much wider implication than just the Palestinians ultimately.

Yup. It's very direction wreaks of havoc, while the possible conflagration could be devastating in scope. It's a dangerous game, but there's plenty of blame for all worldly leaders to this end. They're all playing that game, have the cards on the table, and are complicit. It's not just the Jews this, and the Jews that. To your earlier comment...to me, there is no difference in wiping out Palestinians, Iraqis, Sudanese, Libyans, et al. You do not wipe out whole countries and indigenous non-combatants in order to get hold of a handful. Fighting other armies, musket to musket, so to speak.....has been replaced with total brutality of war. It's not your Grandpa's idea of it, would be my guess. No conscience, no regard for life, and no regret. How far we've fallen.


I would hope I would never be so misguided and deluded to ever believe such a thing.

... by their fruits ...

Warrants a second TY. Be safe. :D
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Not hardly ... Israel-Palestine is just something I'm interested in from several perspectives:

1. The Middle East represents a possible flashpoint (one of several around the world) that has the potential to get real ugly and suck us into another war in real short order. Obviously, that probably wouldn't be a good thing.

2. Israel, is a driving force re: no. 1 above (check out the current Iranian sanctions bill that is being pushed entirely at AIPAC's request - it now has 50 supporters - and will likely kill the prospect of resolving the Iranian nuclear issue if passed) ... and our support for Israel problematic for us as a nation, in terms of foreign policy and international relations.

3. I have, over the last year or so, managed to become somewhat more educated about the Israel-Palestine conflict - far more than I was before ... enough to be very disturbed by what I now know. The Palestinians have gotten a royal screwing ... ever since 1948. Non-interventionism does not require that individuals have no stand or take no actions with regard to foreign issues.

4. I have always held the view that liberty and human rights are universal (apply to all people) - they aren't just something for "America" ... and in any event, at this point in my life, I'm not, in many ways, a terribly nationalistic person.

Finally: I remember the Tennesseahawk who used to talk about liberty in America. Is silence the new thang ?

Perhaps rather than derogating me for my advocacy on what I see as a terrible injustice, perhaps you could find a cause of your own to focus your energies and efforts on ... ;)

I used to talk liberty, by way of politics, here on EO. I found a much more entertaining political forum, with much more to read. And actually, the libertarians there have converted a few of the establishment-types. But I digress. I am no interested in debating politics. I have no interest in researching crap I have no control over. Instead, I have taken it upon myself to research, then implement, my family's evolution, starting with controlling our own nutrition... ie, our exodus from Monsanto-America and the USDUH (USDA). I'm working on a three year plan to get us off the grid (as much as one can be, living in metro-Detroit), and teaching my children the true power of self-sufficiency, while learning it myself.

I am convinced our perils are beyond the power of the vote. What we have created, we will have to suffer through; and it is that that I am preparing my family for. You and I have preached personal responsibility on EO since I can remember. I'm simply practicing it now. If people are interested, I may or may not attempt a blog of my efforts. I can only say that my plans include lots of fruits and vegetables, chickens, ducks, rabbits, bees, rain collection, solar panels, and a lot of sweat; and hopefully, some willing students.

I know urban farming is en vogue, but this venture didn't come from a trend; rather, it came from me looking out at my little 1/2 acre yard, and wondering, "What can I do with that?" It just grew from there.

So you see, I am focusing... moreso than I ever have. I feel great not having to convince others of my way of seeing things, and in return, convincing myself (not saying that's what you're doing). Politics wore greatly on my psyche. Tackling things I CAN control, however, is my new 'thang'.
 
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