Taking offense at flags

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Remember now, you take down a flag, then they(the feds), take down your freedom of speech. Then they(the feds) allow Muslims the right to block sidewalk traffic for prayers, but slap the crap out of a one room school house with some lawsuit because a kid brought a Bible to school, but the kid with a Koran is given accolades of praise ...

Then if someone objects to the above, they are called racist, go on trial, lose their job, put on foxnews, 3 talkshows and everyone makes a few million off of them,,,,and you wonder why we are sinking from within...great, just great.

knew a guy like you. He was convinced that PRESIDENT Obama had troops staged in tunnels ready to take all the guns away on his command.

The attack on free speech came many years ago. it was called the Kent State Massacre! I just checked the victims names - no Muslims?
 
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Ragman

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The attack on free speech came many years ago. it was called the Kent State Massacre! I just checked the victims names - no Muslims?
Hmmmmm, and just who was President at the time, just saying!

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muttly

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IMO, it's only a matter of time before it will be illegal to display the confederate flag on a person's own property, especially if it could be seen by the public. It will be viewed as a form of ethnic intimidation and racial harassment, much like if someone were to burn a cross on their front lawn.

I'm only using my own quote to reiterate that it won't stop at just government property. See link below.
Article excerpt :
It is a fine thing that the Confederate flag will no longer fly above the South Carolina state capitol. But displaying the Confederate flag anywhere is, at bottom, an act of hate. It should be recognized as such, and punished as a hate crime.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/10/let...ka_and_we_should_recoil_it_from_it_in_horror/
 
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skyraider

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knew a guy like you. He was convinced that PRESIDENT Obama had troops staged in tunnels ready to take all the guns away on his command.

The attack on free speech came many years ago. it was called the Kent State Massacre! I just checked the victims names - no Muslims?
Thank you for your input, but I never said a thing about tunnels and guns.. I do respect the Office of the President, just not the existing POTUS.
 

skyraider

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We/ the USA maybe on the precipice of this statement. From an article on Martin Niemoller,a Protestant
Preacher WW2, Germany ..
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Beware ,beware,beware--IMHO.
 

Ragman

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We/ the USA maybe on the precipice of this statement. From an article on Martin Niemoller,a Protestant
Preacher WW2, Germany ..
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.


Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.


Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.


Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Beware ,beware,beware--IMHO.
Remember this next time some right wing wacko is complaining about Muslims.
 

Turtle

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Nixon was responsible?
Of course he was responsible. Just like today where Obama is responsible for everything that anyone does, because he's in charge, it's his watch, he's responsible.

(C'mon, now, that was funny!)

Free speech had been under attack in this country since well before the First Amendment was added to the Constitution. That's why it was added. Our second president signed into law the Alien and Sedition Acts which made it a crime to say anything negative about the US (part of the law is all in the books and allowed for the Japanese internment camps), and don't forget that Lincoln simply threw people who disagreed with him jail.

Now we have what I assume is otherwise relatively intelligent people at Salon writing that the display of the Confederate flag in a museum is a statement of hate and should be a hate crime. That's a pretty slippery slope, to outlaw speech you don't agree with.
 

Worn Out Manager

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Yesterday, as I was sitting without a load, I listened to an NPR show for a couple hours. It was called "Ask A Muslim". It was fan-f'in-tasric! The subject was handled in an informative (sometimes comical) way. BUT, the reality is it made me consider things I had never thought of before.
 
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Turtle

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That's some wildly glossed over PR propaganda right there. For example, it says, among many things that seem hunky dory... Muslim women can inherit property, and to have their marriage dissolved in the case of neglect or mistreatment;

While that's true, to get a divorce, for any reason or no reason, all a man has to do is say to his wife, "I divorce you," and that's it. Done.

A woman must petition an Islamic panel (in non-Muslim areas where sharia law isn't the law of the land) or a qadi (sharia judge) and ask for the divorce if her husband refuses. That helpful web page states a woman can get a divorce in the case of neglect or mistreatment. What it doesn't tell you is those are only two reasons a woman can ask for a divorce, and by neglect they mean the husband hasn't made love to her for at least two months (and she has to be able to prove that he hasn't), and by mistreatment they mean the husband failed to provide food, water and shelter. No other forms of mistreatment are a reason for divorce.

In addition, if the couple has children, the woman automatically forfeits custody for any children 7 years old or older, and if any children are younger than 7, even if she is granted custody of them (rare) she must hand them over to the Father when they turn 7.

Women can inherit property, but if she has any brothers, she will get half of what they get (unless the will specifies that she get an equal share, but that's incredibly rare). Gifted property and inherited non-property are generally split in equal shares. If a married woman has no siblings or nieces or nephews, whatever she inherits is either split with her husband, or he gets 2/3, depending on the circumstances of the inheritance and how long she's been married. If she has children, a portion of her share goes to the kids if her share is split evenly with her husband. But, yeah, she can inherit property, so that's a true statement.
 

Pilgrim

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Remember this next time some right wing wacko is complaining about Muslims.
Of course there are no left wing wackos complaining about Muslims - especially regarding their disregard for the rights of women, homosexuals, Christians and cartoonists.:rolleyes:
 
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