Speed Limiters

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
The Ontario government can't keep you from re setting your speed once you go back to the US. As long as you are set while in Ontario you are compliant.

The Ontario scale guys (MTO) have access to the exact time you cross the border (they use it to write thousands of false logs tickets) so if the time stamp in your ECM shows the change happened before you got to Ontario you ARE LEGAL!!! There is no legal way the Ontario government can enforce it's law's beyond it's boundries. Lift axles are now forbidden on new trailers in Ontario (they have to be self steer and can only lift below a certain speed), doesn't mean if you drive in from Michigan with one you will get a ticket. As long as you don't use it in Ontario you are fine. The wording of the law (like any other local law) is written thinking only about the jurisdiction it is written for. If laws were written and had to have wording to reflect any and all other jurisdictions the law books would get pretty heavy.

Some entrepeneur will figure out it will pay to set up shop at the Detroiter or something and offer to change the trucks back and forth. If the guy charged 20 bucks a pop and did even 20 trucks a day that would be a very profitable business! You could run it out of a car with handheld tools or a laptop!
 

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
One thing the MTO guys did say was there can not be a device (meaning a handheld scanner/programmer device) for changing the ecm speed settings available. Now since this is open to interpretation take this to mean not in the cab or out handy. It is not illegal to own one of these devices so once you've changed your speed limit to be compliant, put the device or in the case of a laptop connector cable away in a drawer in the bunk. It ain't out and handy. If they can't see it, it ain't there.

2 weeks ago I did a run to Quebec city and there were quite a few trucks doing over the limit. I agree the Que boys will have a method of changing the settings once they hit the US.

Lets face it ppl the average driver hates being behind or beside a truck and many butt in ahead of us and we have to suffer. The govt gives into their lobbying as it seems to be politically correct. Now the Ont govt has a pilot program for trains (long ones) but has limited the hours of operation for them so not driving through Toronto during slow hours.

Just keep your eyes open as speed limited regs may be coming to your jurisdiction soon.
Rob
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You got that right!! I bet this is a world wide movement started by Obama. He paid ON and QC to start it for him!!!

:rolleyes:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Some entrepeneur will figure out it will pay to set up shop at the Detroiter or something and offer to change the trucks back and forth. If the guy charged 20 bucks a pop and did even 20 trucks a day that would be a very profitable business! You could run it out of a car with handheld tools or a laptop!

Thanks Piper, I really needed that to become someone else's idea.... :p
 

piper1

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
What about lift axles on straight trucks?

You're fine there Joe. The rule was aimed at getting rid of some of the Tri and Quad axle trailer setup's that got popular up here, specifically the 35 foot tri dump trailer. Seems guys would leave the lift axle down during some wide turns and on a hot day the pavement would almost puddle up and move from the force. The MTO created this mess because they used to sit at intersections and ticket guys for overweight if they did not get the lift axle back down fast enough (like right away as soon as the truck was straight the axle needed to be on the ground).

The MTO, if it can be screwed up, they know how!

You're safe anyways, if you ever get in trouble up here I'll gladly act as your attourney, you don't mind a few nights in jail do ya?
 

Humble2drive

Expert Expediter
So I am asking if any of the other companies are requiring this or is it up to the individual trucks. I would appreciate any info on this matter.

No answers yet??

This is an interesting question.

How are other carriers handling this issue??
 
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