Schwarzenegger for president

[LDB]

Since natural citizenship no longer counts as a requirement for the office Arnold will be eligible in 2012. He's not my choice but many would like him since he's center left and now that we're allowing anyone holding citizenship in any form hold the office he might as well run.

 

[Turtle]

Nothing like the selective perception of the mind of conspiracy theorist. Facts don't matter, and as soon as you criticize the theory, you become a part of the conspiracy, even if you're the entire State of Hawaii. It's laughable.

As a side note to a completely unrelated and irrelevant issue, remember Michael Vick and dog fighting, and how many racists who could have cared less about dog fighting used the opportunity to jump all over Vick for dog fighting? That was pretty funny, too.

 

[layoutshooter]

Why would we want Arnold? Is not one crazy Dumb-O-Crat enough for you? LOL!! Layoutshooter

 

[LDB]

My point is there is doubt about the current inmate and careful attention to not providing the document that could easily clear things up in 42 seconds. No, I don't want Arnold. Just making a point that the other side would be VEHEMENTLY screaming about were the roles reversed.

 

[layoutshooter]

You got that right, Leo!! I see where our useles Canadian/Californian governess from Michigan is on the list for potential Supreme Court Justice. What a major loser she is!! Good bye Constitution if she, or any Barry Baby nominee, gets in. Dead babies everwhere. They will most likely set up the first "Soylent Green" plants with our tax dollars!! Layoutshooter

 

[Turtle]

The only people who have doubt are the ones who prefer their own conspiracy beliefs to that of the truth, or the ones who want him removed from office for other reasons but won't step up and state them outright. The State of Hawaii provided a copy of it to Congress. Didn't even take 42 seconds.

This is about as old and lame as those who keep pounding away at Bush getting his cronies in the Supreme Court to allow him to steal Florida.

 

[layoutshooter]

But it's fun!!!! Layoutshooter

 

[LDB]

Well, had it been provided immediately, even if clandestinely and kept from the public (but why was/is it kept secret from the media/public), I might not doubt it. Based on the circumstances and the ongoing secrecy I am skeptical. I don't see a conspiracy behind every bush but I do have healthy skepticism when appropriate.

 

[layoutshooter]

One must also take into consideration that the person in question IS a politition and therefor prone to lying, cheating, coverups and sleezerie. Also when you check out his presenst and past associates it leads to the idea that not all is as it should be. Character matters. Layoutshooter

 

[MrGautama]

Since natural citizenship no longer counts as a requirement for the office Arnold will be eligible in 2012. He's not my choice but many would like him since he's center left and now that we're allowing anyone holding citizenship in any form hold the office he might as well run.

Priceless

 

[tallcal101]

Ditto priceless! Remeber,he's Pearl Towns best and brightest.

 

[LDB]

Apparently Sal Mineo hasn't much to offer.

 

[Turtle]

The thing is, every Republican in Washington would love nothing more to pounce on something like presidential fraud. But Congress asked Hawaii to provide a copy of the birth certificate, and they complied without delay. Occam's Razor states that the simplest explanation usually turns out to be the correct one, and the simplest explanation is that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii. The non-simplest explanation requires conspiracy and complicity on a scale heretofore unknown in partisan politics.

For cryin' out loud, Bill Clinton couldn't even keep a stained blue dress and a hummer quiet, and there were only two people involved in that one. With a fraudulent birth certificate, you're got all of Congress, the DNC and the RNC, not to mention the entire State of Hawaii involved in a well-orchestrated coverup to protect a non-US citizen's US Presidency. Yeah, that's probably the correct explanation. <snort>

 

[LDB]

I'm sorry but it was VERY poorly handled and smelled rancidly of deceit. No, it is unlikely it's a huge global conspiracy/coverup however it is an example of the thinking of the individual, the idea of being above the unwashed masses and not needing to care/bother about them and what they may think/need/want.

Certainly it doesn't take the entire state of Hawaii to achieve this, only a handful of people at most. The fact that the Congress accepted what was sent means absolutely nothing, nothing at all. The vast majority of them wanted Obama at any cost and the remainder wouldn't know a real document from a phony, not to mention if 2-3 people in Hawaii took care of it for him they'd have a "real" phony document in DC.

Is it phony/conspiracy/coverup? Who knows for sure. Maybe not. Is it 100% guaranteed accurate/kosher/legitimate as you think/want it to be? Not with the huge amount of doubts hanging over it that Obama put there by his actions/comments as well as his lack of actions/comments. Inquiring minds want to know as the saying goes. Clear minds have at least a shadow of doubt.

 

[layoutshooter]

Reguardless of the facts, polititions in general, and Barry in particular, are "sleezoids" and cannot be trusted alone with you son or daughter and certainly NOT with your life. They are ONLY interested in power and control and do not have YOUR best interest in mind. While it would be difficult, not impossible, to fake that document I still as a, matter of course, doubt everything that comes of that "snakes" mouth. That goes for almost every other of those low down slimey S.O.B.'s we call our elected officials. VOTE THEM ALL OUT!!! They ALL just flat out suck!!! Layoutshooter

 

[Turtle]

You can try and rationalize it to be whatever you want, Leo, but all you have to do is consider - if the shoe was on the other foot, what would your reactions be?

Bottom line is, the simplest explanation tends to be the right one, and it is never more true than in the arena of politics.

As to Layout's assessments of slimey elected officials, of that we are in total agreement. I've long said that it's gonna be a rude awakening for many people when they find out Obama is just another politician, and not some savior.

 

[LDB]

If the same reticence, reluctance, resistance and hesitation were shown by anyone else my skepticism would be the same. It has nothing to do with political party and everything to do with impropriety.

 

[layoutshooter]

And thier sleezy way of life!! The scumbags!!! Layoutshooter

 

[LDB]

I have a few friends who are lawyers. They are good people and good at/for their profession. Is my overall impression/opinion of lawyers favorable and positive? No, but there are some that are acceptable. I actually know a few politicians as well, mostly on the state/local level. Some of them are also good at/for their profession. Most are not, the vast majority falling into that negative category. I don't agree with a blanket condemnation of 100% of politicians however. About 93-94% should be sufficient.

 

[layoutshooter]

You are correct but you do have to weed through sooooo much garbage to find the one or two that are worth a diddily doodily!! Shoot, I bet there are even one or two Dumb-O-Crats that are decient, I just have never heard of them let alone met them. I have never been able to vote for one that is in my district. Layoutshooter