On teachers & administrators defending students
- Thread starter AMonger
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I'd have say...I'd rather see armed guards at schools before "forcing"....anyone who chooses NOT to arm themselves, who chooses NOT to invoke their right to bear arms.......like teachers or admin.
bobwg
Expert Expediter
as far as i know no one would force teachers or school admin to be trained and armed. example the police chief here in St Louis county Mo is calling for teachers and admin that want to volunteer to be trained and armed.
Who said anything about forcing teachers or administrators to carry? If any of them were properly licensed, trained and qualified and out of that subset if any of them chose to participate they would do so. The same for citizens. Those properly licensed, trained and qualified would be authorized to carry on school campuses if they chose to do so. The point would be that out of 100 adults on campus plus an indeterminate number of citizens coming and going randomly any or all of them could be armed. Will it stop all the crazies? No, nothing will. Will it stop some? Unquestionably. All in a safe, common sense manner with nobody knowing unless and until lives are saved.
"the use of force, a moral imperative"......that is where I drifted off....sorry
Forcing anyone to be armed is a bad idea, but I think there would be enough volunteers that even armed guards might be needed only seldom. The volunteers would have to be certified, and trained [including continuing education/recertification], but I believe it would work. School admin and teachers take their responsibilities to the children very seriously, IMO.
Anyone who knows what the POTUS is going to do is just wasted driving a truck.
How can he take away guns or circumvent the Constitution WITHOUT the use of force? I WILL own what ever firearm I choose. I will own what ever magazine capacity size I choose. I will own what ever caliber fire arm that I choose. I will own what ever type of action firearm that I choose and I will buy as much, or as little, ammunition that I choose too. I BELIEVE in pro choice!
How do you THINK the feds are going to stop me, and the millions like me? Give us cookies?
They better come heavy when they come to my house.
ANY attempt by ANYONE to destroy the Constitution WILL be met with what ever force is needed. I have a sworn duty to do no less. ANY ban on guns, ammunition or magazines IS such an assault. ANY enemy, foreign or domestic, PERIOD! NO EXCEPTIONS!
I think schools should have discussions with their faculty to at least have one member armed on the premises at all times. They could have more than one,but at least have one. The gun should either be concealed on a particular person or kept in a secure location that can be readily accessible. If none of the faculty want the responsibility to have a gun, then an armed security person should be allocated to protect the school.
Anyone who knows what the POTUS is going to do is just wasted driving a truck.
Anyone who doesn't know what the POTUS is capable of doing is koolaided or worse.
Considering the meager, inadequate budgets that all public school systems have to deal with, who's going to bear the cost for the firearms, ammunition and training of teachers? Some of them may already own a proper sidearm, but I'll bet most wouldn't be able or willing to spend up to $500 for a proper handgun, plus the necessary shells to have on hand, plus the cost of the training courses. I'd like to see an estimate for what the initial costs and annual expenses would be for a large metro school system - like Cook County, IL for example. Keep in mind control of these projects would ordinarily be borne by the local states unless Obama establishes another federal program to impose on our local governments, complete with the appropriate controls and regulations.
No public money period. No federal intervention period. No liberal moron union involvement period. All volunteer. Those participating will provide their own personal equipment. If it's approved, and that list would be pretty extensive, it's authorized. In all probability you would have ranges offering discounts or even pro bono use. The same for trainers. Those who are interested won't need or want anything. For the most part they are already going to be trained and prepared. It really isn't complicated at all and the people who are going to step up are already stand up people who won't need the usual hand holding the government and the koolaiders think everyone needs.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Convenient, since that's the end of the statement. Kind of like finding what you're looking for in the last place you look.
How can he take away guns or circumvent the Constitution WITHOUT the use of force? I WILL own what ever firearm I choose. I will own what ever magazine capacity size I choose. I will own what ever caliber fire arm that I choose. I will own what ever type of action firearm that I choose and I will buy as much, or as little, ammunition that I choose too. I BELIEVE in pro choice!
How do you THINK the feds are going to stop me, and the millions like me? Give us cookies?
They better come heavy when they come to my house.
ANY enemy, foreign or domestic, PERIOD! NO EXCEPTIONS!
What you waiting for its not like assault on the constitution is new. Pretty much been going on your entire life.
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Sure seems to have been headed down that road! That is why I left government service. I would not work for those bums or support their efforts. As with all things of this type. It moves slowly. Many are JUST now starting to wake up to what is coming down the pike. The boil may be coming to a head soon.
Anyone who doesn't know what the POTUS is capable of doing is koolaided or worse.
The difference between "is capable of" and "is going to" is like the difference between wearing a silly hat & a tinfoil one. The first may [or may not] make you look 'out there', but the second will leave no doubt.
Consider that most states specifically outlaw gun possession on school grounds and court houses, and that would negate the premise absent legal statute changes, which is not likely. Secondly, when a person is only lightly trained and may not possess the ability to take another's life in defense of others, they learn of this the same time that the assailant does. Lastly, with gang activity in our schools there is the possibility if an armed administrator being overwhelmed and disarmed by students. Knowing they are children may affect one's decision making process regarding weapon retention and stopping a threat posed by children. Anyone who comes to a school armed intends to die there, so their commitment to their agenda is irreversible. An administrator with any amount of hesitation will become part of the problem and could run the risk of friendly fire from responding law enforcement. This is a complex issue and not one likely to be corrected on the internet.