Hazmat - Transponders - Ohio

TeamCaffee · Mar 29, 2013

Today I found some interesting information as I have always believed that if hauling Hazmat we had to enter the scales in Ohio even if given a green light on transponder... Was I in for a surprise

This is directly from the Ohio State DOT Page:

http://www.dot.state.oh.us/Divisions/Operations/Maintenance/Permits/Documents/2011TDGB[1].pdf

zorry · Mar 29, 2013

The latest info I have for prepass
If placarded you must always enter scales in AZ and AK.
All Haz must always enter scales in Co, Oh, and WV.
Even with green lite.
We have this written on a card that we look at every time we get a Haz load.

beachbum · Mar 29, 2013

zorry said:
The latest info I have for prepass
If placarded you must always enter scales in AZ and AK.
All Haz must always enter scales in Co, Oh, and WV.
Even with green lite.
We have this written on a card that we look at every time we get a Haz load.

Well Zorry here is the bypass info from Prepass, some states say Unlicensed Hazmat.

http://www.prepass.com/forms/Other Forms/Bypass Restrictions.pdf

zorry · Mar 29, 2013

Isn't that info contrary to what The Caffee's posted ?

Upon further review,it is not. I misread Caffee's post.

zorry · Mar 29, 2013

Upon further review, we can now follow our in cab display IF WE HAVE A CURRENT PERMIT.

TeamCaffee · Mar 30, 2013

Zorry why do you go into CO OH WV scales even with a green light on transponder?

zorry · Mar 30, 2013

See PM later tomorrow.

TeamCaffee · Mar 30, 2013

If hauling placarded hazmat you must enter scales in Idaho

layoutshooter · Mar 30, 2013

Keep it simple. Hauling placarded hazmat? Stop at all scales. There can then be no questions or mistakes. We don't haul much hazmat, it is less than 1% of our work and I intend to keep it that way. It does not pay all that well to begin with and when you add in all the hassles that come with it I could easily do without it.

beachbum · Mar 30, 2013

TeamCaffee said:
If hauling placarded hazmat you must enter scales in Idaho

Not a prepass site anyway

ATeam · Mar 30, 2013

layoutshooter said:
We don't haul much hazmat, it is less than 1% of our work and I intend to keep it that way. It does not pay all that well to begin with ...

In some cases, you are correct, HAZMAT does not pay all that well. But in other cases, HAZMAT has been some of the best paying freight we have hauled. That is more the case at our new carrier (Landstar Express America). When we came to Landstar from our previous carrier and started serving some of the very same shippers, some HAZMAT shipments payed way more than we would have even considered possible. The identical freight, involving the exact same shippers and consignees offered better pay, sometimes $1,000 to $2,000 more. When it comes to pay, it's not always about the HAZMAT itself. Sometimes it's about the carrier that books the load. If the load is double brokered, money gets skimmed off the top.

layoutshooter · Mar 30, 2013

ATeam said:
In some cases, you are correct, HAZMAT does not pay all that well. But in other cases, HAZMAT has been some of the best paying freight we have hauled. That is more the case at our new carrier (Landstar Express America). When we came to Landstar from our previous carrier and started serving some of the very same shippers, some HAZMAT shipments payed way more than we would have even considered possible. The identical freight, involving the exact same shippers and consignees offered better pay, sometimes $1,000 to $2,000 more. When it comes to pay, it's not always about the HAZMAT itself. Sometimes it's about the carrier that books the load. If the load is double brokered, money gets skimmed off the top.

All true. I will put it this way, as long as our situation remains the same we could do away with hauling hazmat and never miss it. That may some day change. Hazmat still often comes with hassles so the "hassle factor" must be included when making a determination whether or not a load is worth taking.

zorry · Mar 30, 2013

I went home to do my taxes,a wedding,and renew my CDL.
Passed haz-mat test w/o cracking the book.( thought I'd take it to see what I'd need to study,LOL).
Got fingerprinted for $86.50 and told to come back in THREE WEEKS for my license. What a pain !
We haul little Haz-Mat but won't walk away from any options.

jjoerger · Mar 30, 2013

My wife renewed her CDL 7 weeks ago and has still not received her new license with the HAZMAT endorsement. She did get a letter stating everything passed, but Florida is backed up in issueing them.

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layoutshooter · Mar 30, 2013

That is one thing that Michigan is doing right. The Secretary of State is very well run. We get our new license within a week, no longer than ten days. The temp used while the new one arrives is good for 30 days.

zorry · Mar 30, 2013

Are you pulling our leg ?
Those are union workers. How can they be efficient ?

ATeam · Mar 30, 2013

layoutshooter said:
That is one thing that Michigan is doing right. The Secretary of State is very well run. We get our new license within a week, no longer than ten days. The temp used while the new one arrives is good for 30 days.

Diane! Diane! Come check this out. Here, read it here ... Layoutshooter said something good about the government.

Something's off. Things don't seem right. I think we should do a pre-trip inspection and check the weather and news headlines again.

bubblehead · Mar 30, 2013

jjoerger said:
My wife renewed her CDL 7 weeks ago and has still not received her new license with the HAZMAT endorsement. She did get a letter stating everything passed, but Florida is backed up in issueing them.

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That's because she opted to renew in english...with spanish being the primary language in Florida, you should expect delays when you opt for the english version

layoutshooter · Mar 30, 2013

ATeam said:
Diane! Diane! Come check this out. Here, read it here ... Layoutshooter said something good about the government.

Something's off. Things don't seem right. I think we should do a pre-trip inspection and check the weather and news headlines again.

Candice Miller did a wonderful job bringing the Secretary of State office into the 20th century and beyond. She did it in a very non-partisan manner. She had broad support for her efforts. She ground no axes, pushed no agendas. All she did was modernize, streamline and put the customer first.

She is now in the congress. I have NO idea how or what she is doing, she is not my rep. She MAY run for the senate seat that is being abandoned by Carl (Marx) Levin. IF she runs I will have to look up her record in congress. She would be an interesting candidate.

Ragman · Mar 31, 2013

layoutshooter said:
That is one thing that Michigan is doing right. The Secretary of State is very well run. We get our new license within a week, no longer than ten days. The temp used while the new one arrives is good for 30 days.