Fox News, the Dominion Lawsuit, and the Big Lie

[Pilgrim]

The end of the video shows Jacob Chansley in his most violent rampage. Too bad they left out the part where he reads Trump's tweet over his bullhorn that asks people to peacefully go home.

The sad and outrageous part of this story is that Chansley's incompetent lawyer talked him into a plea bargain that gave up all his appeal rights. Surely somebody in Congress can intervene on his behalf and get this guy out of jail.

 

[danthewolf00]

The end of the video shows Jacob Chansley in his most violent rampage. Too bad they left out the part where he reads Trump's tweet over his bullhorn that asks people to peacefully go home.

The sad and outrageous part of this story is that Chansley's incompetent lawyer talked him into a plea bargain that gave up all his appeal rights. Surely somebody in Congress can intervene on his behalf and get this guy out of jail.

That was a incompetent lawyer and he should sue him for it....why would you give up your right to appeal?

 

[danthewolf00]

And it took a change of leadership in the house to get the video footage released to Tucker to see the truth about January 6th.

 

[danthewolf00]

It wasn't a insurrection or even a riot....it was a group of professional instigators that started the fight with capital police and snowballed from there because people were taking legally run tours of the Capitol building before the fight started.
The whole thing needs to be laid at Pelosi's feet.

 

[danthewolf00]

The pecking order.
Pelosi
Sgt at arms
Mayor of dc
Capitol police chief
As I understand it both the mayor and police chief asked for MORE security back up and was denied by Pelosi......
Trump did offer 10,000 national guard and Pelosi didn't want them.

 

[coalminer]

Ok, what are they trying to say was a lie with that video?

 

[ATeam]

Fox and its Board Sued by Shareholder

The first shareholder suit (derivative action) was filed against Fox Corp. yesterday. The plaintiff cites the fiduciary duty the board has to protect shareholder interests. He says,

“The Board’s decision to chase viewers by promoting the false stolen election claims has exposed the Company to public ridicule and negatively impacted the credibility of Fox News as a media organization that is supposed to accurately report newsworthy events. The Company is now the subject of two defamation cases, with combined damages claimed to exceed $4 billion,” and;

“FOX knew — from the Board on down — that Fox News was reporting false and dangerous misinformation about the 2020 Presidential election, but FOX was more concerned about short-term ratings and market share than the long-term damages of its failure to tell the truth.”

Shareholder suits against big companies are common and are often filed by people who seek to cash in. And in some cases, they cash in big.

I don't know if this suit has merit or not, but the final line in this report is certainly troubling to Fox: "Bloomberg Law reported recently that several firms are eying derivative action against Fox Corp. board members."

 

[ATeam]

I went back and looked at a show with Tucker Carlson talking about Sidney Powell and Rudy. I didn’t see anything wrong with what he said. So I’ll ask again, what specific lie did Tucker Carlson say?

I don't think the suit names Carlson as a plaintiff in this case. Carlson is a witness. The question you ask is not something Dominion or the court is asking or trying to prove. In other words, the question you ask is not pertinant to the case. Carlson will testify not about what he said on the air but about what he and others broadcast on the air, and what they believed about that.

 

[ATeam]

The Trial is On

Jury selection begins tomorrow (Thursday 4/13/23). It is quite amazing that Fox has not yet settled. It is not common that media defamation cases get this far. They are usually settled before they get to trial.

Fox did settle a related case a few days ago. A businessman claimed he was falsely accused by Fox of helping to tilt the 2020 election results. He sued Fox and Fox settled. (Full story here.) The settlement terms were not disclosed.

Yet the big Dominion case has not been settled. I think that's because the settlement price would be very high for Fox, so they're going to trial to try to do better.

 

[muttly]

I don't think the suit names Carlson as a plaintiff in this case. Carlson is a witness. The question you ask is not something Dominion or the court is asking or trying to prove. In other words, the question you ask is not pertinant to the case. Carlson will testify not about what he said on the air but about what he and others broadcast on the air, and what they believed about that.

So what? News organizations are allowed to have surrogates from the losing party who were challenging the results of the election on their shows, and the comments they make, unless it’s some dictator country. What they have to say is still news. The hosts are not required to believe what every guest on their show has to say, unless, again, it’s some dictator country.

 

[ATeam]

So what? News organizations are allowed to have surrogates from the losing party who were challenging the results of the election on their shows, and the comments they make, unless it’s some dictator country. What they have to say is still news. The hosts are not required to believe what every guest on their show has to say, unless, again, it’s some dictator country.

If the matter was as trivial as your "so what?" implies, it would not be in court now. And as often happens in this forum, the issue is not what you say it is. The issue is Fox News defamed Dominion. We know that's the issue because the lawsuit names that as the issue.

 

[muttly]

If the matter was as trivial as your "so what?" implies, it would not be in court now. And as often happens in this forum, the issue is not what you say it is. The issue is Fox News defamed Dominion. We know that's the issue because the lawsuit names that as the issue.

New York mafioso court.

 

[ATeam]

New York mafioso court.

Yes, the zip code complaint once again. But it does not matter, does it? The case is still going to trial and what the court says goes.

We're seeing similar zip code complaints about the Texas court abortion pill ruling. As with the Dominion case, an appeals process exists to rectify any wrongs a court ruling may have. If the zip code complaint is actually valid, it will be addressed on appeal.

 

[ATeam]

Fox News Apologizes to Judge

Fox News apologizes to judge overseeing Dominion case: 'This was a misunderstanding'

Fox News sent a letter to the judge overseeing the case after being sanctioned.

abcnews.go.com

 

[ATeam]

This Case is Actually Going to Trial

I thought Fox would have settled long ago. But to trial we go. Opening arguments Monday.

Fox News and 2020 election lies set to face jury come Monday

A trial beginning Monday in Delaware will force Fox News executives and some of the network's stars to answer for their role in spreading doubt about the 2020 presidential election. Jurors hearing the $1.6 billion lawsuit filed against Fox by Dominion Voting Systems must answer a specific...

apnews.com

 

[muttly]

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with the comments from surrogates from the opposing campaign. What they had to say was still news. It was news when Democratic congresspeople previously commented on the problems with those machines too.

 

[danthewolf00]

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with the comments from surrogates from the opposing campaign. What they had to say was still news. It was news when Democratic congresspeople previously commented on the problems with those machines too.

And I hope fox uses that video evidence against dominion.

 

[ATeam]

Trial Delayed One Day

The Washington Post is reporting "The beginning of the much-anticipated defamation case between Dominion Voting Systems and Fox News has been delayed by one day, until Tuesday, to allow both parties to hold conversations about the possibility of a settlement, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation.

"No reason was officially given for the delay, which was announced Sunday evening by the judge overseeing the case."

"... One of the people said the judge had asked the parties to make a final effort to settle the issue before proceeding with a trial."

 

[ATeam]

There is nothing wrong with not agreeing with the comments from surrogates from the opposing campaign. What they had to say was still news. It was news when Democratic congresspeople previously commented on the problems with those machines too.

You are talking about something different than what the judge, jury, plaintiff and defendant will be talking about. You can discuss your topic all you want, but it is off topic regarding the case itself.

 

[muttly]

You are talking about something different than what the judge, jury, plaintiff and defendant will be talking about. You can discuss your topic all you want, but it is off topic regarding the case itself.

What they are talking about is frivolous nonsense.