Ford E250 4x4 to Sprinter? should I? lots of Q's

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Honest feedback?

Ok here goes......

The sprinter is not an easy vehicle to understand, it is German and rather in comparison of a ford or chev, complicated from the very nature of the people who designed and built it.

The maintenance is not all that easy to do, for example the trans is a pain in the a** to maintain - it doesn't even come with a dip stick (someone correct me if I am wrong). There are other factors involved, it is not like a ford or chev where you can throw in oil, change a filter and go.

There are a number of other "features" that could cause problems that are not "field" fixable - turbo to ECM issues to bearing issues that most don't think of when they need to get it repaired. In other words most shops will not do a proper repair while you are on the road or even in your home town.

Many of the times, the older ones lack uniform maintenance, meaning that Oil was changed but not the right oil was used or the trans fried because the owner felt it was a race van... so on and so on. If the repairs were done outside of the dealer network, chances are the yahoo didn't do the repair up to the standards that were needed.

The older sprinters I have looked at recently suffer from this lack of uniformed maintenance more than anything else but there were obvious sings of poor workmanship with repairs. Not looking at a used sprinted as an middle or upper end German vehicle like other Mercedes or even some BMWs (or Audi A6 comes to mind) but like a VW (which is more or less made for this market) will most likely put you in a probmatic vehicle.

When you look at a sprinter, the key is not the fuel mileage which is what attracts a lot of people, but the longevity of the vehicle and the cost of major repairs in comparison to the Ford.

If I was going to choose, I would stick with the Ford;

major repairs are cheaper
parts are easier to find
a very strong dealer network
easy to find a well cared for vehicle on the used market
used parts market has a lot of parts
insurance may be cheaper (it is here in Ford's home land)

In other words any savings you would have with a sprinter on fuel would be eaten up by just one bad trans.

I worked on Mercedes vehicles in the past (Unimogs to 600), trained by mercedes a long time ago so I know just enough to get into trouble.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Honest feedback?

Ok here goes......

The sprinter is not an easy vehicle to understand, it is German and rather in comparison of a ford or chev, complicated from the very nature of the people who designed and built it.

The maintenance is not all that easy to do, for example the trans is a pain in the a** to maintain - it doesn't even come with a dip stick (someone correct me if I am wrong). There are other factors involved, it is not like a ford or chev where you can throw in oil, change a filter and go.

There are a number of other "features" that could cause problems that are not "field" fixable - turbo to ECM issues to bearing issues that most don't think of when they need to get it repaired. In other words most shops will not do a proper repair while you are on the road or even in your home town.

Many of the times, the older ones lack uniform maintenance, meaning that Oil was changed but not the right oil was used or the trans fried because the owner felt it was a race van... so on and so on. If the repairs were done outside of the dealer network, chances are the yahoo didn't do the repair up to the standards that were needed.

The older sprinters I have looked at recently suffer from this lack of uniformed maintenance more than anything else but there were obvious sings of poor workmanship with repairs. Not looking at a used sprinted as an middle or upper end German vehicle like other Mercedes or even some BMWs (or Audi A6 comes to mind) but like a VW (which is more or less made for this market) will most likely put you in a probmatic vehicle.

When you look at a sprinter, the key is not the fuel mileage which is what attracts a lot of people, but the longevity of the vehicle and the cost of major repairs in comparison to the Ford.

If I was going to choose, I would stick with the Ford;

major repairs are cheaper
parts are easier to find
a very strong dealer network
easy to find a well cared for vehicle on the used market
used parts market has a lot of parts
insurance may be cheaper (it is here in Ford's home land)

In other words any savings you would have with a sprinter on fuel would be eaten up by just one bad trans.

I worked on Mercedes vehicles in the past (Unimogs to 600), trained by mercedes a long time ago so I know just enough to get into trouble.

The dipstick is behind the steering wheel ....:eek:
 

Dakota

Veteran Expediter
Dependability depends on the driver, if you one who kills a car or truck near 100K then you will kill a Sprinter, if you normally hit 200 to 300K then you will do well with a Sprinter
If you are anal on maintenance, the Sprinter will be your friend.
If you expect to drive 100K and not open the hood don't buy a Sprinter
Really it all depends on how you treat your vehicle, not the make for the most part. Yes Sprinter parts are more expensive, but they are designed to last a long time with proper care.

I would heed the advice not to buy a used Sprinter, or at least get every repair record
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Dependability depends on the driver, if you one who kills a car or truck near 100K then you will kill a Sprinter, if you normally hit 200 to 300K then you will do well with a Sprinter
If you are anal on maintenance, the Sprinter will be your friend.
If you expect to drive 100K and not open the hood don't buy a Sprinter
Really it all depends on how you treat your vehicle, not the make for the most part. Yes Sprinter parts are more expensive, but they are designed to last a long time with proper care.

I would heed the advice not to buy a used Sprinter, or at least get every repair record

*cough* you trying to say something?;)
 

TJ959

Veteran Expediter
My Sprinter was maintained to the letter and it lasted 322,000 miles before the transmission failed. It was very poor at stopping and starting on ice, snow, and even loose ground. With careful maintenance it needed, 1-turbocharger, 1-fan motor resistor, 1-water pump, 1-set of front pads & rotors, 2-turbo resonators, 1-belt tensioner, and three belts. Really not a bad record but the parts and labor were very expensive. Frankly, I loved my Sprinter but my wife hated it because of the high repair costs and spotty dealer network. It's just not a very good daily driver. It's expensive to maintain and repair and not just any technition can do it. This is the kind of vehicle that needs to be generating income to pay it's way. I believe a Ford would have had as much or more repairs for 2/3 of the cost. A chevy would be the same. The reason is that the domestic brands are easier to repair by anyone who is reasonably mechanically inclined and their parts cost much less. Stick with the Ford.
 

guido4475

Not a Member
I guess the bottom line is this...Have you driven a Ford lately? lol. Just had to throw that in..sorry.
 

katoom400

Seasoned Expediter
pictures of the potential beast:
 

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