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davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
I.m not at the Fed so it wouldn't be fair for me to post what I think they make or don't. I am only going by what is posted here. Without a doubt some posts are clearly inflated.
As like anything, if it was proven and too good, everyone would be there.
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I.m not at the Fed so it wouldn't be fair for me to post what I think they make or don't. I am only going by what is posted here. Without a doubt some posts are clearly inflated.
As like anything, if it was proven and too good, everyone would be there.


You said it your self the grass always looks greener on the other side till your there. Dont matter what company it is.
So If you said Panther I said FedEX whos whos wrong. Each of us has our own thoughts.

Ive been with the Fed long enough But what I realy deserve is better Equipment as Im young enough to do the job.
That is the key isnt it better equipment to get the better runs to make the money to be able to do the 4 weeks out and 5 days in vice being out since May then goiing in in Sept as ya cant make the monie to go On Home time. As I cant afford to.
Now I just said somthing I didnt want to say but OH
I admit it Im Human and not a Machine. Im Home sick and this stinking dry box isnt getting me the runs I need so that I can go Home. Example I will close out this week on Wed with only 300 bucks why??? Because all the runs I was offered today would either drain all the money I had on the card left to pay the tolls and do the run and leave me with nothing to Fill the Tanks and DH out there and pay tolls on the way out. If I had my Reefer I wouldnt worrie but with a Dry Box got to think more.
Cant ask Cave Man for the monie I would be asked why did I take that load You got in You get it out.
One last thing when I got here in NY I had to replace 4 dead batteries and I was lucky I pulled in for a PM to the TA only to find when I went to start the Tractor to turn the wheel so they could lub the Steering shaft it wouldnt start and had to be jumped. How lucky was that. Im not kidding. Any way so 876.10 + .50 for the T check went on 4 batteries and a PM. But Im just glad it wasnt a road call at the shipper good grief that would have been costly as well as embarresing.
Who paid for the Repairs I did off the money I saved from fuel on the card like I Been doing. Keep your foot out the throttle and try to choose the loads wisely and I can save money on the card if I didnt wouldnt had the money to get it fixed. I dont think I need to elabortate any more than that on the subject I think you get the jist. (No I dont own Im just a driver)
So I am at a disadvantage sitting up here in Buffalo NY
100 in my pocket for tolls and 3/4 tanks for fuel. Got my fingers crossed and Hopen for an Angel to come my way.
I want my Reefer BACK and I need a Load Please FEDEX Load Angels help me. Now you know the deal.
Im not making no monie or the monie I should be making.
thanks for listening and the advice. Have a safe one
 
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pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Just wondering.. is that normal for a driver (not an owner) to pay for R&M? Doesn't seem right somehow? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by taking it from fuel saved off the fuel card?
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Just wondering.. is that normal for a driver (not an owner) to pay for R&M? Doesn't seem right somehow? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by taking it from fuel saved off the fuel card?[/quote

Well Every since I worked for this guy I down load 40% to pay for fuel and tolls and do the Pms. I keep my foot outa the throttle and dont runt he truck to save i use the money to pay for pms Oil changes and that. and buy tires ect.

For the last 3 years I done this. well its tighter now as the prices of fuel is higher.

if your a driver and not an ower then how do you do it maybe ive been missing somthing. As Ive paid for fuel lines exhaust ect tires shocks reefer repairs, also replace ac compresor ect Air lines ect ect ect. brakes ect. If I didnt do it that way Id be sitting along side the road.

Am I missing somthing if i am then do tell I want to here it as maybe I been doing it all wrong.

Any Case I need to get to Ohio to get the Reefer Im still in Buffalo and the runs I was offered by the Computer wernt even a 1.45 am mile. Cant run a Tractor trailer for that. and pay tolls. What Im saying is this total price of the load x 40% = $$$
Total miles Divided by 6mpg = miles x 4.65 for fuel = if the price its going to cost me in fuel is more than I can down load how can i do the load ??? and if there is tolls hello its a no Brainer.
Can some body please wake the Fred the computer up and tell him the fairy tale is over with.

Thank You

Maybe I shoud Say NO CHEAPO FREIGHT
 
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iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
FedEX can U get me a load From Bufalo to OHIO
Like Cleveland so I can go to Richfield and get My Jenny\
HMM can ya.

Then when I get her give me a big load to pick up and run thanks.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
Hey Ice

May want to shop for a better deal. Never heard of a driver running for a owner that pays the repair costs on the truck.
Only other exception is if your on a lease purchase of some type?
The $1.45 per mile you speak of, is that with the FSC or without it?
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Hey Ice

May want to shop for a better deal. Never heard of a driver running for a owner that pays the repair costs on the truck.
Only other exception is if your on a lease purchase of some type?
The $1.45 per mile you speak of, is that with the FSC or without it?


Dave

Look I get 20% off the Bottom in other words before fuel and tolls Exsample

DH PAY 50.00 DHFS 100.00

RUN PAY 1000.00 RUNFS 250.00

TOLLS 0000 TOATAL AMOUT 1400.00

MY PERCENTAGE IS 20% OF THE 1050.00
I DONT GET FUEL OR TOLLS IN MY PERCENTAGE.

Now Dave the percentage I down load for the card is off of the 1400.00 so 40% of that.

When I say I get paid off the bottom I mean I only get run pay and DH pay but Not the fuel or the Tolls.

When I down load money to the truck I down load 40% of the toatal amount to cover the DH tolls and that and what left over stays on the card and I use it to get PM ect. Tire ect ect now do you understand.

Basicly I run the truck off of what I down load to the card.
Pay for Exhaust , Breaks, PMs , DOTs, Tires, Shocks, Trailer stuff, ect. Belts Hoses, I think u get the jist.

Now again if thats not right then say so.
tell me how u do it and NO Im not lease purchasing the thing
Id buy a Volvo 2008 or somthing of that nature. with a warrenty. any way this is how I have done it for the last 3 years.
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
To make sure I understand this correctly, what percentage of the gross does the owner take?
Does he pay any maintenance on the truck? Or,are you paying at times and you are reimbursed at a later date?
 

late4dinner

Seasoned Expediter
Let me think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I think you are saying that you get 20% B/4 fuel and tolls, BUT you pay for fuel and tolls and maintance. Either I am missing something or your deal with the truck owner is something out of this world. It's no wonder you are broke.
 

pjjjjj

Veteran Expediter
Sounds like..
Total $1400
Less $210 for the driver (20% of $1050)
Less $560 for fuel, tolls, R&M (40% of the $1400)
Equals $630 for the owner (45%)
And what happens if the fuel, tolls, and R&M aren't covered by the 40%? Whose percentage does that come from?
Man, sounds like this owner's got a good thing going (for himself) at 85% of the total (and that's IF it's coming out of his percentage if it's over 40% for the above).
Time to look for another ride?

Or wait.. is there a codriver who also gets 20%?
 
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late4dinner

Seasoned Expediter
If this driver talkes to dispatch like he talks to some of the people here, "you need smacked in the head," it's no wonder they don't dispatch him. I was with FECC and Roberts for 6 years and they would never put up with stuff like that back then.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The bad news is that some at FedEx read this stuff - that's all I am going to say.

The good news is he is driving a tractor, not a c unit so he can get off his can, buy a cheap truck and get rolling with another company.
 

iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
To make sure I understand this correctly, what percentage of the gross does the owner take?
Does he pay any maintenance on the truck? Or,are you paying at times and you are reimbursed at a later date?


Dave my percent is 20% of the run pay less fuel and tolls.
the owner is paying fuel and tolls.

What I down load to the card is what I use to run the truck.
weather its fuel tolls tires ect. No the 40% isnt my pay.

My pay reguardless is 20% before the fuel and tolls are add to get to the total price.

I hope u understand now. thanks.

The owner he gets 20% his cuts off the top with the fuel and tolls as mine is 20% off the bottom = before fuel and tolls are add to the offer.
 
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iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
If this driver talkes to dispatch like he talks to some of the people here, "you need smacked in the head," it's no wonder they don't dispatch him. I was with FECC and Roberts for 6 years and they would never put up with stuff like that back then.


You say you were with roberts express for 6 years well then 500 and 300 a week pays days were common for you then?? For me they are not. They are inexcuseable.

If Im going to be on the road 24 7 1000.00 after taxes is my requirement.

Other wise its not worth it.

One last thing as far as dispatchers go I am Polite how ever I dont let them walk all over me either. If I can get more money for a run I ask especialy if its a toll road. If they cant then I ask for a back up if they say cant do that I ask what can you do to help me help you. If Im told nothing then I tell them sorry cant do the load. Also for your information I call them angels, and thank them when they call me for a load. when is the last time U thank a dispatcher for calling ya with a load?? Id do it all the time ya see all I want to do is work while Im out here.

The worst thing about me Is I WAS calling and asking for loads.

Well be advised Im NOT going to do that no more.
As Im sick of Begging I should not have to Its not right.

NO Locks for any reason unless they got a load to give me on the Truck means no Worries and Ill get my Loads.

Have a nice day.
 
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iceroadtrucker

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Sounds like..
Total $1400
Less $210 for the driver (20% of $1050)
Less $560 for fuel, tolls, R&M (40% of the $1400)
Equals $630 for the owner (45%)
And what happens if the fuel, tolls, and R&M aren't covered by the 40%? Whose percentage does that come from?
Man, sounds like this owner's got a good thing going (for himself) at 85% of the total (and that's IF it's coming out of his percentage if it's over 40% for the above).
Time to look for another ride?

Or wait.. is there a codriver who also gets 20%?


If The 40% dont cover the fuel and tolls I cant do the run.
So then I have to say no. I Look at the whole picture when I get the load offer. Look at the Total miles DH and Pratical and then Guess ta mate what the tolls will be. Then I make sure I know the price of fuel and give .10 cents higher for purpose of a Safety money Net then Look at the total $$$$
of the load and take that X 40% and then at the same time check the locations on the maps all in a matter of min so I can say either yes or no.

one last thing Yes I have a Co driver and he get the same as me paid off the bottom. The run pay and DH pay Note as with me he dont get the fuel or the Tolls pay if any.

Its a no Brainer.

Now I do know this for a fact with the first Owner I worked for I got paid my Percentage off the Total Price of the load but he was the lead driver so it made a big difference. There are a few OOPs that are doing that paying there Co driver off the top.

Understand.
 
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