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OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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and you guessed it...from South Dakota...:D

*SB70 has been signed by Gov. Rounds after it passed the House with only one dissenting vote on Tuesday. This eliminates the 48-hour waiting period to buy a handgun. Sen. Rhoden and Rep. Noem were the prime sponsors and I signed onto the bill because it is one less restriction on our constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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That is scary OVM. First, that implies that the polititions in South Dakota have working brains, that flies in the face of the natural order of life!! Second, just think how many in here will be "scared" of the thought that there is a state that still follows the Contitution and will be scared that someone will be able to defend themselfs against whatever or who ever threatins them. Way to strange a concept for many to conceive of. That one is able to protect one's family, self and property. How scary is that? :rolleyes: You are lucky to live is such a State that values the freedom and rights of the individual. Layoutshooter
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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Unfortunately we are getting invaded from the east....the cancer is spreading..sister-in-law says the fight is getting harder to hold them off...we need recruits!..

the best part of America now lies west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies
 
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layoutshooter

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We are still looking at South Dakota. Still have zillions of things to consider. Like, how deep do you have to drill for water? What condition are ground water tables in? I do like what I am seeing from there. I get more and more interested everyday. There are many things that have to be investigated. I do know that there is more than enough game. Not sure about fish and that it is very Constitution friendly state. All major pluses. Layoutshooter
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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In our area now the water is piped in from North Dakota....the wells and table around our area are high in sulfur...you wouldn't be too far off a major waterline anywhere to connect up.
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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The ground water where we live is very high in sulphur as well. That is one of the problems. I am looking at areas where I can sort of "Live off the grid" so to speak if need be. If things really do hit the fan, I pray that they don't, things like public utilities will not be trustworthy. Layoutshooter
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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When we first moved out there I asked the city guy if I could do something I can't remember specifically what is was right now...

He said there is no building codes...its your land do as you want...I said WoW back east you have to ask almost to paint your house the "right" colour....to which he replied.." you ain't in the East now...:D
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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layoutshooter said:
The ground water where we live is very high in sulphur as well. That is one of the problems. I am looking at areas where I can sort of "Live off the grid" so to speak if need be. If things really do hit the fan, I pray that they don't, things like public utilities will not be trustworthy. Layoutshooter
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Everyone put up with high sulfur for centuries, no big deal...about 1200 feet would be good. And theres no shortage of wind for a turbine!!
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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There are plenty of home water systems out there to deal with sulpher water. Culligan has some just to name one. I do like the lack of zoning stuff. How high is the normal ground water level in your area. Ours is often only a couple of feet below the surface which causes a lot of problems with building. It can be very hard to keep a basement dry around my place. Layoutshooter
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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I'll see what I can find on that for ya....ask around...I do know the frost line is set at 48 inches!! thats deep!!
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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We have a 48" frost line as well, although it seldom reaches that deep, did this year. Water tables are VERY high. I am not concerned about the sulpher, I can get around that, it is just another consideration. What 1200' are you talking about? Layoutshooter
 
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layoutshooter

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WOW!! That is really deep!!! Is that water sulpher too? Up at our land in PA we have to go down about 200' for sweet water and that is on the top of the mountain. The ground water is very heavy with iron. It won't hurt you but it tastes like garbage and makes horrible coffee and I neeeeeed my coffee. Layoutshooter
 
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aristotle

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OntarioVanMan said:
Unfortunately we are getting invaded from the east....the cancer is spreading..sister-in-law says the fight is getting harder to hold them off...we need recruits!..

the best part of America now lies west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies
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OVM... you and I have covered this ground before. The best part of America lies south of the Ohio River. A 48" inch frost line... what!!! Do you live in the permafrost? *L*

Glad to hear South Dakota is removing the waiting period. I purchased a handgun from a gun store, here in Kentucky, just before Christmas. The whole process took about 15 minutes.
 
layoutshooter

layoutshooter

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I think what OVM and I mean by "frost line" is better discribed as a "freeze line". Where I live in S.E. Michigan it is possible for the ground to freeze to 48". It rarely happens, it has the last two winters and used to more often years ago. We may be heading into a time frame when that can of cold may become common again. Years ago water pipes, gas lines etc were always buried below the freeze line. I don't know if that is still followed or not. Layoutshooter
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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layoutshooter said:
WOW!! That is really deep!!! Is that water sulpher too? Up at our land in PA we have to go down about 200' for sweet water and that is on the top of the mountain. The ground water is very heavy with iron. It won't hurt you but it tastes like garbage and makes horrible coffee and I neeeeeed my coffee. Layoutshooter
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It can be flakey at best...remember we edge on the Williston Basin...shale in some spots and some coal deposits...last thing you want is Grey water!!
 
OntarioVanMan

OntarioVanMan

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layoutshooter said:
I think what OVM and I mean by "frost line" is better discribed as a "freeze line". Where I live in S.E. Michigan it is possible for the ground to freeze to 48". It rarely happens, it has the last two winters and used to more often years ago. We may be heading into a time frame when that can of cold may become common again. Years ago water pipes, gas lines etc were always buried below the freeze line. I don't know if that is still followed or not. Layoutshooter
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Last year ourselves and some others the sewer lines actually froze and they are at 5-6 feet....4 days of -60 will do that...:eek:
 
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