Fact check

[davekc]

Got this in a email. Wonder what parts are factual? Didn't know he wasn't pulling a salary when he was governor even though he was raking in the cash from other places. Certainly slanted to make him look good but did have me wondering.
Blast away.


After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar, but never worked as an attorney.

As a venture-capitalist, Romney's first major business deal involved investing in a start-up office supply company with one store in Massachusetts that sold office supplies. That company, called Staples, now has over 2,000 stores and employs over 90,000 people.

Romney or his company Bain Capital (using what became known as the "Bain Way") would go on to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino's, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.

Got your calculators handy? Let's recap:

Volunteer campaign worker for his dad's
gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

Unpaid intern in Governor's office 8 years.

Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years.

Unpaid bishop and stake president for his church 10 years.

No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years.

No salary as MA governor 4 years.

Gave all of his inheritence to charity

That's a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.

 

[AMonger]

Got your calculators handy? Let's recap:

Volunteer campaign worker for his dad's
gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

Unpaid intern in Governor's office 8 years.

Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years.

Unpaid bishop and stake president for his church 10 years.

No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years.

No salary as MA governor 4 years.

Gave all of his inheritence to charity

That's a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.

Assuming it's all factual, it sounds a lot like that post from a couple months ago listing Obama's "accomplishments," most of which were either outright lies or things that a normal person wouldn't admit to doing, let alone be proud of.

First, government work isn't something of which to be proud; work in the private sector--that's something of which to be proud. Romney's accomplishments are those of a (spit) scumbag career politician. And the campaign and intern stuff is lower than that.

As a governor, he sucked. As a governor, he brought socialized medicine to the shores of this country. He backed gun control. Those are things he should be looking to bury the record of, not list them as accomplishments.

His work with the Mormon organization was done for a cult, no more respectable than if he'd have done it for the Moonies out Heaven's Gate cults.

There's no service to country here. The way to serve the country would be to dismantle at least 80% of the government, but he will expand it. And there's no service to Church here, because the Mormon organization is not a church. Hasn't he at some point rescued a puppy or alerted somebody that they dropped their wallet or helped a little old lady across the street? At least those would be something.

You come not to bury Caesar, but to praise him, right?

 

[witness23]

You have to admit, Romney is the antithesis of the what the Republican party is "saying" what they want right now. That is why I am perplexed in his nomination.

Its sad to see the so-called 2010 referendum and the Tea-Party becoming a shell of itself in less than 2 years.

 

[LDB]

And there's no service to Church here, because the Mormon organization is not a church.

Do we say the same about Muslims then? At least the Mormons don't want everyone else dead.

 

[xiggi]

Assuming it's all factual, it sounds a lot like that post from a couple months ago listing Obama's "accomplishments," most of which were either outright lies or things that a normal person wouldn't admit to doing, let alone be proud of.

First, government work isn't something of which to be proud; work in the private sector--that's something of which to be proud. Romney's accomplishments are those of a (spit) scumbag career politician. And the campaign and intern stuff is lower than that.

As a governor, he sucked. As a governor, he brought socialized medicine to the shores of this country. He backed gun control. Those are things he should be looking to bury the record of, not list them as accomplishments.

His work with the Mormon organization was done for a cult, no more respectable than if he'd have done it for the Moonies out Heaven's Gate cults.

There's no service to country here. The way to serve the country would be to dismantle at least 80% of the government, but he will expand it. And there's no service to Church here, because the Mormon organization is not a church. Hasn't he at some point rescued a puppy or alerted somebody that they dropped their wallet or helped a little old lady across the street? At least those would be something.

You come not to bury Caesar, but to praise him, right?

Never met a morman that was wierd or was not an upstanding person. As for your cult statement can't say I agree and if they are more cults need to be like them.

Yeap socialized medicine stinks but.it was brought here way before he did it in MA. Ever hear of a little thing called.medicare? He also did it at the state level which if its done is where it belongs.

By your standerds.no one has ever serviced our country so why do you point it out with Romney?

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[xiggi]

You have to admit, Romney is the antithesis of the what the Republican party is "saying" what they want right now. That is why I am perplexed in his nomination.

Its sad to see the so-called 2010 referendum and the Tea-Party becoming a shell of itself in less than 2 years.

The tea party.has brought.many people into Congress that are.more.conservitive than before. They did it again in the primaries including right here.

The reason he was nominated is pretty simple he had the widest appeal. Kinda hard to be the nominee without being chosen by the majority of primary voters.

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[davekc]

I really don't know what is true or false in it so that is why I put it out there. The political savvy folks would likely know. I don't think it even means he would be a good president. What I would see if it is factual, is there is a difference between him and Obama.
Many claim they are the same but I am not so sure.

 

[Monty]

I stated, on the record, months ago Rommney would be the nominee. Both the MSM and the Demoractic Party wanted him to run against Obama.

All of those allegations against the various Republican candidates were either never proven, or were proved to be wrong. The primary was rigged, by engineering the outome.

All the movers and shakers were elimintated. We now have the candidate of choice by the "machine". Obama or Rommney, we get pretty much the same product.

 

[xiggi]

I stated, on the record, months ago Rommney would be the nominee. Both the MSM and the Demoractic Party wanted him to run against Obama.

All of those allegations against the various Republican candidates were either never proven, or were proved to be wrong. The primary was rigged, by engineering the outome.

All the movers and shakers were elimintated. We now have the candidate of choice by the "machine". Obama or Rommney, we get pretty much the same product.

I am just amazed that people continue to say there is little diference between Obama and Romney. The primary was rigged? Eveeyone seems to think they are smarter than the next guy and those other people are stupid and being tricked. Maybe a lot of people realized who had the best shot at actually beating obama. Reminds me of athletics anytime a persons team loses it is the refs fault, why do people not want to face facts?

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[muttly]

The tea party.has brought.many people into Congress that are.more.conservitive than before. They did it again in the primaries including right here.

The reason he was nominated is pretty simple he had the widest appeal. Kinda hard to be the nominee without being chosen by the majority of primary voters.

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Right, the tea party helped elect Mourdock over a long standing entrenched senator Lugar. They did it as well in other primaries ousting the more established and less conservative candidate and replacing them with a more conservative one. Anyone who claims that the tea party doesn't have influence will do it at their own peril.

 

[muttly]

I think Romney would make an excellent president. He has lived an exemplary life and has been successfull in about everything he has done in the private sector. He has experience as a governor where the unemployment rate was low during his term. He governed in a very liberal state with about 80% democrat in the legistature. The one thing I didn't like about him was the state health insurance he signed. If he didn't say he would get rid ot Obama care as soon as he gets into office then I coudn't support him. I think the economy will really take off once we get rid of Barry and put someone that is more business friendly. There IS a big difference between the two.

 

[davekc]

I am just amazed that people continue to say there is little diference between Obama and Romney. The primary was rigged? Eveeyone seems to think they are smarter than the next guy and those other people are stupid and being tricked. Maybe a lot of people realized who had the best shot at actually beating obama. Reminds me of athletics anytime a persons team loses it is the refs fault, why do people not want to face facts?

If the primaries was rigged, the democrats would be having a field day with it. Doesn't mean there wasn't some underhanded stuff going on, but that happens in every election on both sides. Out of what you are picking from, he does have the best shot. Even from the beginning just because of his finances. Money is a key component in any election. Every other candidate in the primaries had money problems.





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If the primaries was rigged, the democrats would be having a field day with it. Doesn't mean there wasn't some underhanded stuff going on, but that happens in every election on both sides. Out of what you are picking from, he does have the best shot. Even from the beginning just because of his finances. Money is a key component in any election. Every other candidate in the primaries had money problems.

Since Amonger asked,
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...internet-story-says-mitt-romney-helped-locat/

 

[AMonger]

You have to admit, Romney is the antithesis of the what the Republican party is "saying" what they want right now. That is why I am perplexed in his nomination.

Its sad to see the so-called 2010 referendum and the Tea-Party becoming a shell of itself in less than 2 years.

He's the antithesis of what everyday Republicans want. But he's exactly what the GOP establishment wants, and we have assclowns who vote for him because, though he's far from the best man for the job, he's the man they think has the best chance of beating Karl Marx-reincarnate. So party politics wind again, and the country loses again.

 

[AMonger]

Do we say the same about Muslims then? At least the Mormons don't want everyone else dead.

Islam and Mormonism are equally false. Mormons do make decent neighbors, though.

 

[AMonger]

Never met a morman that was wierd or was not an upstanding person. As for your cult statement can't say I agree and if they are more cults need to be like them.

Yeap socialized medicine stinks but.it was brought here way before he did it in MA. Ever hear of a little thing called.medicare? He also did it at the state level which if its done is where it belongs.

By your standerds.no one has ever serviced our country so why do you point it out with Romney?

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Because the thread was about Romney.

Mormonism is a cult because they redefine God and Christ. And anyone who believes God was once a man, lives on a planet near a fictitious star called Kolob having spiritual children with His many fictitious wives, believes that Christ and the devil are brothers, and wears magic underwear--among their many other crazy-*** beliefs--that man is weird. He may not cheat on his wife or let his dog crap in your yard or borrow your lawnmower and not return it, but the same might be said of the Moonies or Branch Davidians.

 

[AMonger]

The tea party.has brought.many people into Congress that are.more.conservitive than before. They did it again in the primaries including right here.

The reason he was nominated is pretty simple he had the widest appeal. Kinda hard to be the nominee without being chosen by the majority of primary voters.

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We've heard all this before, in Clinton's first-term mid-terms, when the freshmen Republicans were going to clean up Sodom-on-the-Potomac. Is the government smaller now, or bigger? Less intrusive, or more. This is just more of the same.

 

[AMonger]

I really don't know what is true or false in it so that is why I put it out there. The political savvy folks would likely know. I don't think it even means he would be a good president. What I would see if it is factual, is there is a difference between him and Obama.
Many claim they are the same but I am not so sure.

The same? No. Romney wants taxes to be a little lower. That's essentially the difference. I posted a list of their similarities a couple days ago. Both for gun control. Both for socialized medicine and socialism in general. Both for the bailouts. Both for the PATRIOT Act. Both for the NDAA and drones over American cities. Both for expanding government. Both for aggressive foreign wars against little brown people. Both for expansive executive power. Both believe the States are servants of the federal government rather than the reverse.

The same in every way that matters.

 

[AMonger]

I am just amazed that people continue to say there is little diference between Obama and Romney. The primary was rigged? Eveeyone seems to think they are smarter than the next guy and those other people are stupid and being tricked. Maybe a lot of people realized who had the best shot at actually beating obama. Reminds me of athletics anytime a persons team loses it is the refs fault, why do people not want to face facts?

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We have one party masquerading as two, two wings of the same bird of prey. They both want largely the same thing, and do their best to engineer the primaries to keep the status quo. They aren't always successful, but they usually are.

Why do people not want to face these facts?

 

[AMonger]

I think Romney would make an excellent president. He has lived an exemplary life and has been successfull in about everything he has done in the private sector. He has experience as a governor where the unemployment rate was low during his term. He governed in a very liberal state with about 80% democrat in the legistature. The one thing I didn't like about him was the state health insurance he signed. If he didn't say he would get rid ot Obama care as soon as he gets into office then I coudn't support him. I think the economy will really take off once we get rid of Barry and put someone that is more business friendly. There IS a big difference between the two.

You couldn't be more wrong if you worked at it 24 hours a day. Your post is wrong in its entirety.

 

[AMonger]

If the primaries was rigged, the democrats would be having a field day with it. Doesn't mean there wasn't some underhanded stuff going on, but that happens in every election on both sides. Out of what you are picking from, he does have the best shot. Even from the beginning just because of his finances. Money is a key component in any election. Every other candidate in the primaries had money problems.

Since Amonger asked,
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...internet-story-says-mitt-romney-helped-locat/

We've already addressed this. The Demon-crats, being about 10% more socialist than the Republicans, have more to lose with a Paul presidency, and are quite happy to see him go down to defeat. They're not going to upset the Republican apple cart on this because they're far more experienced in election fraud. You don't see my sins, I don't see yours.