Do you tell ur carrier about warning ticket?

[nightcreacher]

regular cop,no dot on private property,just forget the ticket,no one will know about it.If it were a highway patrol or dot that would be different,as warning tickets now count,but not a regular cop,he wouldnt even know of the dot rules.

 

[RETIDEPXE]

Thanx for all the replies.

It was a local cop who wrote the warning upon exiting the interstate. He asked me if I was "pulling in for the nite or just for dinner?". I told him "just for dinner, but looks like I'll be here for a while." He said, "just be sure and repair it before you leave." So I ate, repaired it, and left.

I found the following on the Transforce Guide to CSA 2010 related to the topic, although not the definitive answer I'm sure. The way I read it, a warning only shows up on your FMCSA Safety Record if a road side inspection is conducted at the time, which agrees with what little knowledge I have picked up thru XMSR, the internet and truck rag mag reads. So there you have it;

"Helpful tips:
1. When an officer
gives a driver
a warning for failing
to use hazardwarning
flashers
and then conducts a
roadside inspection,
the driver’s FMCSA
safety record will
reflect the warning
plus any violations
found during the
roadside inspection."

found here; http://www.transforce.com/CSAFinal.pdf

Bottum line, I don't think the Feds (FMCSA) have the capability to manage all the incoming DOT data as it is, much less every warning ticket written in Mayberry by officer B. Fife. Lucky for me, it was a "freindly" local that stopped me. The warning did work as I keep a watchful eye on my rear lights shining on the pavement in my mirrors now, especially in that dern Ohio snow hehe....

Retidepxe

 

[jelliott]

The driver's personal record is going to continue to take a much larger role in the future. It will have a continued greater effect on hiring, and so many other aspects.

 

[Turtle]

The driver's personal record is going to continue to take a much larger role in the future. It will have a continued greater effect on hiring, and so many other aspects.

Which is why I maintain that a cargo van from Kentucky getting a warning in Iowa for not having a front license plate, and for having window tinting that is too dark for Iowa, from a local cop, doesn't need to be reported to my carrier. When the cop tells you that you didn't break any laws, and the only reason he's giving you the warning is to justify what he's doing to his boss, there's no reason to report it. When you report that kind of crap to your carrier, the warning gets noted for sure, and the reasons behind the warning can easily be forgotten. Thinking (knowing) the warning is nothing, and thinking the carrier will also see it as nothing is naive thinking at many, if not most, carriers. A lot of carriers are overreacting (some are just freakin' out) to CSA 2010 as it is, and there's no reason to think they won't freak out over what amounts to nothing, like a warning that truly means nothing.

 

[zero3nine]

CSA 2010 affects CDL employees with regard to the company they work for.

Independent contractors who operate under their own authority are a business entity unto themselves. Carriers can choose to hire them or not based on whatever criteria they choose. I gave up my CDL and hazmat last year immediately after I finished my CSA 2010 certification at Landstar in Jacksonville.

fired at you from my Droideka

 

[moose]

O'Hhhh, i miss the days when you could flip the cup a 20, buy him some coffee ,and he'll help you fix the dern light...

* BTW ,i don't get the whole 'warning' concept ... ?
it's like the '2nd degree offense'
(when they have to stop you for inproper line change ,to issue a seat belt ticket)
either the light is working or not ,right ?

 

[OntarioVanMan]

if you tell your carrier of some obsolete warning from Barney Fife it will always be on your record...with them...

 

[purgoose10]

The carrier won't need to show proof of repair for a warning ticket from a small town cop.

I got stopped the other day in Iowa for not having a front license plate on the Sprinter and for having window tinting which was too dark. Of course, Kentucky doesn't have a front license plate and it allows for darker tint than Iowa. The county deputy sheriff saw the Kentucky plate and pulled me over anyway. He wrote me a warning ticket as a way of showing his boss that he's out there and on the job, I suppose. He was nice enough. I think he also wanted to be sure I hadn't moved to Iowa and simply hadn't redone the tinting or something. But it's definitely not something that needs to be reported to a carrier.

I was also stopped because our state only has one tag. The cop told me that every state has two license plates.
I looked at him with a puzzled look and laughed and said okay if you say so. He said I'll prove it. Okay show me I said. He was stupid enough to get on his radio and ask dispatch. I heard the dispatcher ask him if he new what he was asking? He said he wanted to know. Anyway the cop gave me my license and never said another word, got in his vic and drove off.

 

[Turtle]

I was also stopped because our state only has one tag. The cop told me that every state has two license plates.
I looked at him with a puzzled look and laughed and said okay if you say so. He said I'll prove it. Okay show me I said. He was stupid enough to get on his radio and ask dispatch. I heard the dispatcher ask him if he new what he was asking? He said he wanted to know. Anyway the cop gave me my license and never said another word, got in his vic and drove off.

I think Iowa State cops are a little more informed on things, but small town cops in Iowa apparently just don't see many single-plated vehicles. Iowa has no bordering states which issue a single plate (although legislation was introduced in Jan 2011 to have Illinois move to a single plate system).

There are 19 states which issue only a single plate, with Arizona, Arkansas, New Mexico, Kansas, Louisiana and Oklahoma being the only ones that are west of the Mississippi.

The others with a single plate are: Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia.


Proponents of dual plates say it makes law enforcement easier ("We don't think this is an area in terms of law enforcement that should be skimped," said Illinois Secretary of State spokesman Dave Druker), but the states (like Indiana) which have moved from two plates to one say that's not really true and that single plates have no negative effects on law enforcement.

Having two plates is silly and a little stupid, if ya ask me, which nobody did. All a second plate does is add cost to production, use additional resources (metal, plastic, paint, sealers), create double the amount of waste and do not give police any extra tool in law enforcement.

 

[BillChaffey]

Missouri issues a single plate for Pick ups at least. It has something to do with weight and farm use. The single plate goes on the front. There are tons of pick ups with a John Deere or Chiefs plate where a rear licence plate would ordinarily be.

Mo. Statue states "The licence plates on Buses, other then school buses, and on Trucks, Tractors, Truck Tractors, or Truck-Tractors licenced in excess of twelve thousand pounds shall be displayed on the front of such vehicles"

 

[RETIDEPXE]

TX only issues one front plate for commercial trucks if running interstate, intrastate gets two, not sure why. I had a PA DOT conduct a roadside and pointed out i was missing my rear plate. I showed him my cab card issued by the state that spells it out and he didn't write me up for it. I was told by the TX registration office lady that this does not guaranty that I won't get a ticket for no rear plate.

happy trails