CB & 10 Meter

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Oki so we all know it would be illegal to use a 10 meter radio without a FCC licence and I know that the FCC is working with the DOT and is making a crack down effort to some degree on this. BUT, it certainly isn't illegal to "listen" on a BIG receiving 10 meter equipped CB. So I understand that those in a big rig that the FCC can rail through if they feel the need my end up cited for having a 10 meter radio without a licence, but that is winnable in court, proof is neded that you were "broadcasting" , not just listening for traffic info 10 miles down the road so that you can make the needed changes to your travel plans.

So if any of you care to admit it, how many of you are "listening" on a "popped up" 10 meter / CB radio? And do you feel the expense of such a radio and the needed high quality antenna system for "listening" is a good investment?

Thanks for any info..:D
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
You aren't going to get much in the way of road reports on 10 meters I don't think. You also aren't going to get good results on either cb or 10 meters from a combination unit. Get a ham license if you want 10 meters. You can then legally access the entire HF spectrum and with the right setup you can talk around the world.
 

Dreamer

Administrator Emeritus
Charter Member
I've had several different ones, and in my opinion, most are not worth the hassle. anything above a Galaxy 44 just never seemed to hold up to road duty. They were touchy and went off freq easy. In recent times, I've stuck with Cobra 29 or Uniden 78 and found them much more durable. A good peak and tune, an echo board (turned WAY down. . just '. . ec. . ' not , echo. . echo. . echo. . . .) and I have the same sound in a much more durable (and legal) radio. In My Opinion (and we all know how those are) the only reason to get the 'big radio' is just for braggin. Just not worth the price and hassle. . . not to mention they are a thief magnet :(
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Oki so we all know it would be illegal to use a 10 meter radio without a FCC licence and I know that the FCC is working with the DOT and is making a crack down effort to some degree on this. BUT, it certainly isn't illegal to "listen" on a BIG receiving 10 meter equipped CB. So I understand that those in a big rig that the FCC can rail through if they feel the need my end up cited for having a 10 meter radio without a licence, but that is winnable in court, proof is neded that you were "broadcasting" , not just listening for traffic info 10 miles down the road so that you can make the needed changes to your travel plans.

So if any of you care to admit it, how many of you are "listening" on a "popped up" 10 meter / CB radio? And do you feel the expense of such a radio and the needed high quality antenna system for "listening" is a good investment?

Thanks for any info..:D

Listen to what?

Hams don’t use much of the band and if there are road reports, I would be very surprised.

The equipment is cheap, the antennas are CB antennas tuned to the band so this makes one of the bands easy to get into unlicensed.

So to answer your question, no it is not a good investment to listen to static (or in the case of FM silence).

1 – It is like a gun, having it is construed as using it by many and the chances that you winning in court over this are not that great for a number of reasons, one is you are dealing with a federal agency who has deep pockets and may want to make you an example. The other is when you have to go to court say in Arizona and you are in New York, it is pretty hard to justify that $300 investment in the equipment. Chances are, the DOT will take the equipment and that’s all seeing it is a federal issue. They may call the feds in and they will issue you a citation or you may get one in the mail with a good fine attached.

2 – Like Leo said get a license, more going on with 2 meters across the country than 10. For that matter, have you seen the 2 meter rigs lately? Mil-spec.

3 – There is a big issue among some hams and they are the ones you have to watch for. There are now a few groups in some cities who are tracking down the trucking companies using 10 meters for business and filing written complaint to the feds. The feds send out a cease and desist letter which takes care of the problem more often than not. I too will do the same and expect other hams to do the same thing – it is all about self-policing our bands.

4 – Customs is the one to watch out for; they have the right to go through your sleeper – period. AND if they find something you are not supposed to have, say bye bye to it. I have my 2 meter rig in the sleeper and I was asked to produce a license as they were unhooking it to confiscate it. They, customs, really don’t have the ‘right’ to do that, they are not the FCC but they are charged with confiscating none-type accepted equipment at the border. I heard of this situation happening to a trucker here in this area the other day. The cops pulled him over, he gave the cops a song and dance about his rights to search and seizure so they called ICE and had them search the sleeper – problem solved.

5 – Get a scanner that can get the band, I have one here that goes down to 26mc. As for scanner laws (speaking for my pathetic state), Michigan is supposed to have a scanner law, they sometimes enforce it but hams are exempt or supposed to be. Other states don’t care and personally like the cellular blocked receiver law, they are outdated and useless laws. There have been only two cases in Michigan where criminals were so well organized that they had scanners and tracked the cops – the law was created to prevent these two from gaining access to information about the cops? Analog cell phones are being phased out so what’s the use of having receiving equipment blocked?
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Thanks guys, you opinions were why I posted and asked. So a good CB and Antenna system will be it for now.

Now how do you guys feel about the Galaxy dx 939 or the dx939 which is basically the same radio as the 959 but it doesn't have the SSB sides, it is simply a 40 channel radio. Any thoughts?

I know it won't be on alot, I really don't enjoy them to begin with, but they do serve a purpose and I'd like to have one that is the best at doing what it is suppose to. So what do you guys use and suggest?
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I have a Cobra 29 and splurged on the Nightwatch model. I also had the place tune it. I don't know if it did any good or not but I presume it didn't hurt it any. Spending any more for any additional features is just tossing your money out the window for a mobile application in my opinion. You can't have an intelligent conversation with anyone unless there are no other cb users within radio range. If you're around a group it will almost immediately turn into a competition to see who can be the biggest idiot on the radio.

Get the minimum radio to be able to find out why the traffic stopped and talk to the scale operator on channel 2 and talk to the shipping office on channel 5 when you go to that shipper. Spend the rest of your money on a good 2 meter radio after getting your ham license. You'll get exponentially greater range and you'll get intelligent conversation. Check QRZ Ham Radio and eHam.net Home - Amateur Radio (Ham Radio) Community Site to learn more and even take free practice tests. Universal Radio shortwave, amateur, scanner and CB radio since 1942 is a good site for comparing new and recently discontinued equipment and RigPix Database - Main shows the majority of radios ever made.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Thanks Leo! To be honest getting a Ham licence wasn't something I had thought about, but you know, doing the research and studying for that test is just one more thing to put on my list to occupy my time when sitting in those parking lots instead of playing video games in the game rooms of the "J" or Pilot........ Need to keep the mind off the negative and handle other things...

Thanks again....:)
 
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LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Another resource for the basics is http://www.hello-radio.org/hello/. There are good study guides including but not limited to Now You're Talking, Larry D. Wolfgang, Book - Barnes & Noble and Amazon.com: Technician Class: Gordon West: Books.
I preferred the Gordon West but for some the other would be better and some people might not like either. The main thing is it's not difficult to get the technician. That even gives you a small slice of 10 meters legally although you won't find a lot there. The biggest activity is on 2m and 440 and those are inexpensive to get into.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
cd, 10 min of cb time will last you all day. i swear the same deep voiced guy is on the radio everywhere i go.............and he still has no underwear on:eek::eek::eek:

get an xm unit and enjoy the trucking channel.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Oh, I have been a XM user since it came available. 3 units, home, each car, and i the boat. I will have one in the van....:D
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Oh, I have been a XM user since it came available. 3 units, home, each car, and i the boat. I will have one in the van....:D

Well you are now a Sirius radio user as of last week. I really am ticked off that the merger happened, now we have an monopoly with an aggressive a** at the helm of the 'new' company. I expect to see my access limited and my prices go up - no grandfathering in this case.
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I have no problem with the merger at all, i'll be more then happy to pay more for more service (available channels) its not big deal to me and i really don't care if they have a monoploy or not, they are the only 2 in the business and we can still get regular radio, internet radio (which I a beginning to use more then XM or regular radio) and then there is the MP3 players, so any momoploy they enjoy isn't a big deal, since I have to buy their service, its my decision to make, no one is twisting my arm or holding a gun to my head to do so....
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I have the lifetime Sirius subscription so in theory it won't cost me anything. There are probably only about 20 channels on each that interest me, if that many, so for the XM side I may go to one of the pick a few channels for a few bucks plans.
 
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