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Best Cargo Van for New Owner/Operator

Discussion in 'The Newbies Paradise' started by Lane Chase, Dec 1, 2017.

  1. Turtle
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    Turtle Administrator Staff Member Owner/Operator

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    If that's true, then I can't imagine why you'd want to be in a straight truck instead of a cargo van.

    In any case, what may be good or bad miles for you in a straight truck has about as much place in this thread as what kind of hot sauce you like. And when you do things like use your miles in a straight truck to belittle someone in a cargo van over their mileage goals, you start creating problems for yourself.
     
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  2. Kip life

    Kip life Active Expediter Owner/Operator

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    I can't do 1 dollar or 90 cents a mile. . It's just not worth been away from home

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    Minimum requirements =
    Minimum pay.
     
  4. BlindSquid
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    BlindSquid Active Expediter Owner/Operator US Army

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    He's determined, he'll learn eventually, maybe?
    Once again I've learned in this thread as with others.
    Maybe one day I'll have the Christmas pie & my thumb will have the plum on it.

    Course by that time the pie will post on Facebook about how I mole - ested it and should be dismissed from expediting. Pies nationwide will chime in claiming plum abuse. Pumpkin, lemon, key-lime, even apple.
    I'll be drawn an quartered by vans of all makes. Only after the body parts cool will anyone think ... gee there is no plums in pumpkin, lemon, key-lime or Apple pies......duh??!

    4 the record I don't care for moles & damn sure don't wanna "ested" one.
     
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    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

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    I want some of what he’s smoking.
     
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    BlindSquid Active Expediter Owner/Operator US Army

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    It's just humors b.stick, just humors.
    Usually occurs when I'm stressed, more stress = more humors.

    It's a lot worse in combat, a tad more morbid too.
     
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    BigStickJr Veteran Expediter Retired Expediter

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    Humor good.
     
  8. Lane Chase

    Lane Chase New Recruit Owner/Operator

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    Hey guys,

    Just a quick update and question...I've been watching some YouTube videos recently about one expediter in particular driving a Ford E350 van. Similar in just about every way to cargo dimensions of a Chevy Express.

    These videos are dated between the end of 2016 and beginning of this year. This guy had some great weeks ( I counted at least two 3K+ Miles and most pickups were less than 500 pounds. He is driving for a lesser known carrier, but watching these videos gave me some hope that I would be just fine out there in a Chevy Express "flat top".

    It's funny because I was a little discouraged after asking my question and receiving all of the responses that I would not be getting freight and in one of this guy's videos, he even mentioned the negativity in these forums.

    So I guess my question is, how is it this guy is running so well but I was told I would be lucky to average 1000 miles a week? It seems to me like there are plenty of opportunities out there for "smaller" vans.
     
  9. RoadTime
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    RoadTime Veteran Expediter Owner/Operator

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    In early 2017 Vans were officially banned ;)

    But seriously, I'm sure they can get the miles with the right carrier. Have to do what works for you and can afford.
    That said, lessor known carrier can sometimes mean lessor pay. More miles is not a selling point for me if the pay sucks. Know your numbers before signing or getting to deep into it to see what works best for you.
     
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  10. dc843

    dc843 Active Expediter Researching

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    If you are set on a non sprinter, look for a van converted to a wheelchair van with a high roof, and most importantly, the raised back doors as well. You can be looked at as a sprinter by most companies in these. I saw a 2012 e350 wheelchair converted van with only like 110k on it for sale for 12 thousand a few months ago, still kicking myself for not buying it (or at least checking it out). Not to mention id get some of my investment back selling the installed wheelchair lift.
     
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    you must be talking about apex, havent seen him post on youtube in a while but i remember this video, i think you should expect somewhere between what that guy WAS getting (that video is like 2+ years old) and the negativity on here. I posted on here years ago when i was a few months into driving tractor trailers, realizing i hated it, wanted to try a van to bring back some of the "fun" of this job, instead of literally only being able to go to a truck stop. People told me i was making a huge mistake, i wont make :censoredsign: compared to the TT....idk if i got lucky but boy were they wrong. I made more money in the promaster driving for an owner than i was making at "take advantage of new drivers and pay them 1/15th of what the load is paying trucking LLC". Doesnt mean you will experience the same, because there was plenty of times :censoredsign: really sucked, but i think you can definately make money in a van. You wont get rich, and it wont be worth it if you dont have a "wanderlust" and just feel awesome about getting to drive all over the country.

    The other thing to consider about buying a regular vs high top van, the market is much more heavy with regular vans, expediting aside. You can find a used regular van much more easier than the ideal sprinter for expediting, for a lot less money. So when you consider making back your inital investment, and not just the miles you will get, i think low top wins, considering you were a savvy shopper and found what i call a "just gotta get rid of it" seller.

    To me though, the lifestyle is hard enough in a big sprinter, a low van is even worse, you will always crouch and hunch over, besides the money of a load, have less loads meaning more time sitting in a van in a parking lot, which is madness. when you do it for days at a time, you really reconsider everything in your life. So to me its better just for your health to have the bigger vans. thats just me though.
     
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  12. Lane Chase

    Lane Chase New Recruit Owner/Operator

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    Yea it was Apex but his last dated video on Youtube is March 2017 so its actually been less than a year since he was rolling. But yea just being out there and getting to see different parts of the country makes up for the sitting time.
     
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