America no longer "Free Country"

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I am having a hard time finding that post since I do not remember who posted it, when it was posted or in what forum. Other than that..............
 

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HEY!!! I found it!!!!!!!!!!! I had saved it in my bookmarks. This is how I was taught and how I see it. I see no difference between Hitler and Stalin, their ideas, methods or goals. Obama is right, er, left in there with them!! This is more like what I was basing that one post on.

The American form of government. [VIDEO]
 

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This is how I was taught and how I see it. I see no difference between Hitler and Stalin, their ideas, methods or goals.
That might be something that you wish to work on :rolleyes: - I know for me it is one I try to work on daily (although not always with success), for it is surely true that the highest function of perception and of the human mind is the ability to differentiate one thing from another.

And an adjunct to that is: the lowest function is perceive no differences between things which are clearly not the same and to assign the same monotone importance to both.

The above is a very powerful truth - and is no way intended to be directed at you personally - it is just a philosophic statement intended as helpful guidance to any who see fit to adopt and use it.

All of us suffer from the latter to a greater or lesser extent, the trick is in recognizing that in ourselves and then striving to adopt the former as a method of operating.

One could say (rightly, I believe) that sane thought resides in the former (seeing different things as different, and knowing and understanding what the differences are) .... as to the latter ..... well, you probably get the idea .......

As to Stalin and Hitler, clearly they were not the same (meaning there were many differences) ... but they were certainly similar in many respects ....

As to the movie, while it does contain some truth, it is vast over-simplification of what is a complex subject and it no doubt has a political agenda (I'd be curious to know who the author is .... but it isn't stated) ...... and it contains some downright falsehoods, fallacies, or misrepresentations (intentional or otherwise) ..... including one real whopper:

.... without law there can be no freedom ......

Nothing could be further from the truth ..... and that should be self-evident to anyone who has the least notion of what freedom truly is: a total absence of barriers.

Governments and laws (of almost any form) are more often a restriction on freedom, than a force for it.
 
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Of course it was a over simplification. I think it might have been aimed at 10 year old kids. Which is often what I think about many adults that I run into.

I did not agree with all of it, mainly just the part where they laid out right to left. It makes sense to me based on my education and life experience. Having talked with a few survivors of Nazi Germany and many escapees from Soviet controlled Russia I was able to decide, based on a half a zillion ideas, that fascism and marxism are blood brothers on the left. That is just how I see it. It really does not matter all that much. Pigs are pigs no matter which side of the mound they pitch from.

You are right, I used wrong words again, Hitler and Stalin were not the same, but very similar. Their goals, dreams and methods were almost the same. Both used mass murder and terror as a tool to control the population. Both systems used massive controls on their economies although different types of control but to the same end. Both were disgusting. Both went after the youth and turned neighbor against neighbor. You see shades of both in what is going on here in this country now.

There are some basic things that a man should never change. Certain core values, certain convictions should be part and parcel of a man's life code. I believe in having values and convictions like that. I believe in having the courage of those convictions and standing for them no matter what it takes and at all costs. Outside of those core values and convictions it is fun to ramble on and banter about. I don't believe, that when it comes to those very few things that there is any middle of the road. That is, at least in my mind, not thoughtfulness, it is being wishy washy and not have any principles to base your life on. Not everything should have shades of gray, not in my life at least.

The rest, well, that is the fun part of life.

We all have ideas, the fact that we may or may not agree with others ideas does not make them or ours wrong. Ideas that degrade freedom, damage spirit and destroy the dignity of life have no place in my life. I may error in life, but my error will always be on the side of less government, not more and more freedom, not less. That is how I have always lived and that is one of those things that will never change. It is how I will die.
 
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