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very nice older van. i do think however, that the 276" wheelbase is a misprint and should have been 176" instead. there is no way there is 23' between the axles.

turtle, do you know if panther pull their natl. avg from the eia website or somewhere else . the natl. avg. from eia for 1/18 - 1/25 is 3.407

good post turtle, im not voicing an opinion here. more so just asking what i hope are questions that will cause those of you with experience to explain. you did bring to point another of these questions or should i say an idea. you mentioned a bottom price that keeps things, lets say flux...

i will restate, who is initially accepting the rate or bidding the rate for the load ? you cant raise the pay to the driver if you are bidding or accepting cheap rates. what i am trying to point out is there is a relevant process that takes place before the freight is offered to the driver.

ldb, panther is at the 15 mpg mark arent they.

you are rite about supply and demand but are more precise in your comment about internet bidding. s&d definitely affects the amount of freight available but does it have to affect the price ? who is accepting the price initially and do they not play a role in the pricing

well, from a legal standpoint we have to stay away from terms of collective bargaining or price fixing. but how about they take a quote from the driver no no list.

with that being said, how can carriers react to the pressure bidding is putting on rates?

yes they can be answered without dipping into the no no pile. you just did it with your comments on the brokers and the orientation classes. thats what i am talking about, other ways than the old go to answers. good job !!!!! keep them coming.

national averages for fsc are usually set for the different types of units cause of the differences in the fuel mileages the units get. on a flat rate fsc or national avg. if you will, there is generally no one size fits all. i dont know if tstate has a flat fsc or is still what they can get...

those are a couple of replies i had forgotten about. with those added to the no no side is there still a fix possible. a way to get better rates keeping the amount of trucks we currently have ans taking supply and demand into consideration.

while the subject of rates is a prevalent topic i thought i would stir some thought and opinions from others. what does everyone truly think the problem is ? first and foremost i dont want this to run the typical course of cheap freight. more so, why are the rates cheap and what has caused them...

i generally like to see the rate for the unit size, but then again i have a truck so go figure. i am sure most of us do. i dont mind taking a load to reposition especially when it pays better than dh pay or not having to do it out of pocket. however, i will wait a little before doing so. i also...

did whomever you heard it from mention names ?

what companies that that you know of are doing this. you mentioned there are a couple. state who they are.

man, look who showed up. havent heard from you in awhile. all good with you and the mrs.

who should stay oos for a few more days.

a little late for that, dont ya think.

fetish, go away and bang for a couple of hours. man, ya'll get your heads outta the gutter. LOL

WHAT, i hope that was all in fun.